I had two Gerbers fail me back in the early 1990s. I haven't trusted a Gerber since. Never will again. TP
CS Recon Scout vs. Gerber LMF II
Hey all,
I'm currently debating between these two knives, and would value the scrutiny of my fellow board members. Would like to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly of each. I'd be using it as an outdoors camping/hiking/wilderness knife. The recon scout would be the SK-5 one.
TIA
I'm currently debating between these two knives, and would value the scrutiny of my fellow board members. Would like to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly of each. I'd be using it as an outdoors camping/hiking/wilderness knife. The recon scout would be the SK-5 one.
TIA
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There are TWO types of LMF's. First there is the LMF II Infantry which is made of 420HC steel and the LMF II Survival has 12C27 steel. I do not know how these two steels differ, but I'd like to know.
As for TP, it depends heavily on what model of a Gerber knife you bought. Some of Gerber's products are made in China, some not. For example, the Gerber Bear Grylls line and especially the "ultimate survival knife" are made in China and do not stand up to what they are advertised to be able to handle. The handle of the knife has broken with several different customers who have bought it. However, the LMF II has had extreme torture tests done on it where it does everything it is advertised to do and more. Look at knifetests.com and check out the beating they give it. I am going to buy one because I found it for around 70 bucks. I don't know a knife that is as versatile as this one, that is as strong, for that price. If you are talking about multitools however, then that is a different problem entirely. I have never owned a multitool that has worked they way it was supposed to for even a decent amount of time. I mean, within months, they broke. This is across a lot of brands. I spent a lot of money on them, they didn't get the use I expected and they didn't hold up. They didn't last even 3 months and I didn't use them everyday. That is the reason why I don't care for them.
However, read reviews of the LMF II. Users, for the most part (can't please everyone) love the knife. It has been used in combat in Iraq and probably Afghanistan too. It is great for what it is.
But, I don't think you could really compare the two knives. First, the CS Recon is 2 or 3 inches longer than the LMF II. Then the CS is also more expensive. So it is sort of like comparing apples and oranges because the price, size, and purpose of the knives are not really close. People complain that the LMF isn't a good chopper, but they don't think that it is only a 4.8 inch blade.
As for TP, it depends heavily on what model of a Gerber knife you bought. Some of Gerber's products are made in China, some not. For example, the Gerber Bear Grylls line and especially the "ultimate survival knife" are made in China and do not stand up to what they are advertised to be able to handle. The handle of the knife has broken with several different customers who have bought it. However, the LMF II has had extreme torture tests done on it where it does everything it is advertised to do and more. Look at knifetests.com and check out the beating they give it. I am going to buy one because I found it for around 70 bucks. I don't know a knife that is as versatile as this one, that is as strong, for that price. If you are talking about multitools however, then that is a different problem entirely. I have never owned a multitool that has worked they way it was supposed to for even a decent amount of time. I mean, within months, they broke. This is across a lot of brands. I spent a lot of money on them, they didn't get the use I expected and they didn't hold up. They didn't last even 3 months and I didn't use them everyday. That is the reason why I don't care for them.
However, read reviews of the LMF II. Users, for the most part (can't please everyone) love the knife. It has been used in combat in Iraq and probably Afghanistan too. It is great for what it is.
But, I don't think you could really compare the two knives. First, the CS Recon is 2 or 3 inches longer than the LMF II. Then the CS is also more expensive. So it is sort of like comparing apples and oranges because the price, size, and purpose of the knives are not really close. People complain that the LMF isn't a good chopper, but they don't think that it is only a 4.8 inch blade.
I've never used the LMF, but I have owned and used the Recon Scout that I got back when they were first introduced, and except for the coating getting scraped off from use, I've never had a single complaint about it. I do remember that, when I first got it, the weight seemed somewhat excessive, since it was replacing a Buck 119, but I very quickly got used to it, and now, anything else just seems flimsy.
CS recon scout over the gerber .... any day... I own 3.... really good knives.
cold steel and gerber are both junk imo. pick up an Esee, Becker, or something else.
On knifetests.com, the LMF II does better than the Becker BK9...cold steel and gerber are both junk imo. pick up an Esee, Becker, or something else.
Knifetests is a joke. means nothing about the knife in regards to real useage.On knifetests.com, the LMF II does better than the Becker BK9...
It does when you watch the video and during chopping the BK9 broke in half. Knife tests checks how much damage a blade can take. Some of the tests aren't what you'd use a knife for, but then again it shows how strong or weak a knife is or what it can or can't do and how strong the steel is. Some tests show if the steel rolls, chips, or bends which is important to some people. The fact that the LMF II took more damage than the BK9 says something. The BK9 and BK7 are relatively thin for their length. A good thick blade is the BK2, which is a 1/4" thick.
As for the Cold Steel stuff, the belly of them don't look too deep so I am not sure if you will be chopping or what. The LMF II is sort of a short blade and people will argue that it sucks at chopping and it is not the best at that, but then again...is that what it was designed to do?
As for the Cold Steel stuff, the belly of them don't look too deep so I am not sure if you will be chopping or what. The LMF II is sort of a short blade and people will argue that it sucks at chopping and it is not the best at that, but then again...is that what it was designed to do?
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