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I had a question regarding water. i have a slow running creek running about a mile back in the woods behind my house. If the SHTF and i ran out of water besides boiling it would i need to do anything else to the water to make it safe to drink? the water is not stained to bad and is a offshoot of water coming off a game reserve. would i need to filter it to? any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
 

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What I recommend and what you need may vary, but the principle is knowing what you need and what is required to purify your drinking water. My recommendation for water that comes from an "unknown" source (you cant actually find the starting point exactly, sometimes you can though) is to boil the water until it rolls (cannot be stirred down) then cool the water to room temperature (70ish) and filter the water through a two stage filter like a PuR water filter. The filter is not to remove bacteria or cysts BUT it is to remove any heavy trace minerals, and agricultural runoff (chemicals). Using this method you can reduce cysts and chemicals by 99.9 percent.

Here is a link to the water filter I use for camping and backpacking.

http://www.purwater.com/#/pitchers

It does remove bacteria and cysts but I still boil the water to kill the bacteria, that way the little creatures aren't living in the filter. The filters last for 40 gallons or more when cared for properly (don't dump mud in one of these). Hope this helped a bit :)
 

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There's one near my home town, also. Way down stream the creek STINKS like the game reserve. I thank God it does not run by my house. if it would I would complain. If I lived in the same county, I'd complain. I still might, it runs right through the middle of a park. I don't let the kids get in the creek.
 

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And in the absence of an adequate filtration system, distillation is a one step method of removing most of both chemical and biological contaminants. How to do this efficiently in a field expedient manner, i dunno. But you can reclaim a decent portion of the evaporating water using a cool plastic/metal surface to condense the evaporating water as its boiling, and have it run off into a second container for consumption. Some chemical contaminants may evaporate and re-condense with the water, but if you are really worried about contaminated water, this is another 99.9% effective method for purifying water, if you dont have the means for hepa-like filtration.

As for the suggestion of letting the soil filter it... you may get the bugs and stick out of it, but you may be adding to the chemical and biological contaminants in the process. And of course you are gonna have a bunch of dirt in your water now too.
 

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I just got a Katadyn Pocket Filter.

If you do a search for it on EBay you can find it for around $165, which is a fairly good price.

This filter is something else. It's the size of 16oz. water bottle and will turn any non salt water into drinking water. It will pump 13,000 gallons before you have to change the filter cartridge.

I am very impressed!
 

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an expedious method is to dig a hole in the sand next to the creek, and slowly let water seep through it, it will still need boiling, but most of the flotsom will be filtered.

Rapidly moving water is always preferable, and tastes better
 

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I just got a Katadyn Pocket Filter.

If you do a search for it on EBay you can find it for around $165, which is a fairly good price.

This filter is something else. It's the size of 16oz. water bottle and will turn any non salt water into drinking water. It will pump 13,000 gallons before you have to change the filter cartridge.

I am very impressed!
according to the site you would still need to treat the water however. any handy filters out there that can do it all?
 

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You might want to get a sample tested just to see if there are any chemicals in it. Boiling won't take that out. If it is comes out OK, then you know you can boil it and have a good water supply.
 

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according to the site you would still need to treat the water however. any handy filters out there that can do it all?

Not sure where you saw that but no, you don't have to treat the water after you filter it through the Katadyn Pocket Filter. That's why it's so awesome. You take it with you anywhere and you have drinking water if you have access to puddle.
 

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Not sure where you saw that but no, you don't have to treat the water after you filter it through the Katadyn Pocket Filter. That's why it's so awesome. You take it with you anywhere and you have drinking water if you have access to puddle.
hmmm.........seems they changed that page (or somehow i looked at a different one). anyways they were selling it with the tabs to further purify the water.
 

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hmmm.........seems they changed that page (or somehow i looked at a different one). anyways they were selling it with the tabs to further purify the water.
Katadyn sell water treatment tablets, it's true, but as a separate measure. Their Pocket Filter filters everything out of water that is bigger than 0.2 microns. Most bacteria is bigger then ten microns and some are even as big as hundreds of microns.

Then only time you'd need to treat water filtered with the Pocket Filter is if you suspect a biological terrorist attack on your water source. No filter out there can filter viruses. For that you need to chemically treat your water.

That being said, the chances of biological attack on free standing bodies of water you'd encounter in your hiking and camping trips is practically null.
 

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I had a question regarding water. i have a slow running creek running about a mile back in the woods behind my house. If the SHTF and i ran out of water besides boiling it would i need to do anything else to the water to make it safe to drink? the water is not stained to bad and is a offshoot of water coming off a game reserve. would i need to filter it to? any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
What is up stream from your house? Does anyone live up there? Are their cows, horses or any other livestock? If someone does live behind you / up stream, what kind of septic system do they use?

Water shed from areas that have livestock can contain Cryptosporidium. This protozoan is rather robust and can be difficult to remove - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptosporidium

Then there is typhoid, cholera and polio from human waste.

A slow sand filtration system is one of the few long term solutions:

Click these links to download the instructions.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=360

http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=359

http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=162

http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=161


Emergency Treatment of Water in a PDF file.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=160

You will have to have Adobe reader installed to view the files.

All of these files and a lot more can be found in the Downloads section - http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=10
 

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What about an Aquarain or Berky table top filter? Those are for filtering bad water into drinking water. It's my understanding that they're used by missionaries in countries with horrible water quality.

Shouldn't either of those two work?
 

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What is up stream from your house? Does anyone live up there? Are their cows, horses or any other livestock? If someone does live behind you / up stream, what kind of septic system do they use?

Water shed from areas that have livestock can contain Cryptosporidium. This protozoan is rather robust and can be difficult to remove - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptosporidium

Then there is typhoid, cholera and polio from human waste.

A slow sand filtration system is one of the few long term solutions:

Click these links to download the instructions.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=360

http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=359

http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=162

http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=161


Emergency Treatment of Water in a PDF file.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=160

You will have to have Adobe reader installed to view the files.

All of these files and a lot more can be found in the Downloads section - http://www.survivalistboards.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=10


There is a very large game reserve up stream from the creek. upstream from that is a very big man made lake thats part of a state park. after that where ists a mile from me its a rarely used hunting club. i dont think that
the water will be too polluted being that it is coming from 2 state protected areas but i would still get a 2 micron filter. the model mentioned above sounds good as does the slow sand filtration. thanks to everyone so much for helping a newb like me.
 

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Berkey Filters

The Big Berkey filters sell on eBay for $99.00 for 2 of them they are good for 3000 gallons each. I'm getting a couple soon.
 
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