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Get ready for a showdown in SCOTUS for the conflicts in decisions between federal judicial circuits. I'm happy that this is going to finally happen.

Court sides with Trump in 'sanctuary cities' grant fight

The Trump administration can withhold millions of dollars in law enforcement grants to force states to cooperate with U.S. immigration enforcement, a federal appeals court in New York ruled Wednesday in a decision that conflicted with three other federal appeals courts.
 

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Let the libs fund them.

Houston used to be a sanctuary city and I admit I really didn't know what that meant until an illegal who had been deported more than once murdered a police officer. "We" changed our policy right after that.
 
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Let the libs fund them.

Houston used to be a sanctuary city and I admit I really didn't know what that meant until an illegal who had been deported more than once murdered a police officer. "We" changed our policy right after that.
The problem is that there has already been too many murdered people (and any number of other serious crimes) by illegal aliens in other cities, and they just don't care.
 

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The problem is that there has already been too many murdered people (and any number of other serious crimes) by illegal aliens in other cities, and they just don't care.
Like the fool that murdered Kate Steinle.

This is a good precedent, let's hope SCOTUS feels the same way.

Hot damn I do love Trump winning.
 

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I understand the argument from the left. If the illegal immigrant victims of crime are afraid they will be deported when they report crimes, then they won't report the crimes. What the left refuse to comprehend is if the illegal immigrant wants to be able to report the crime they need to go back to where they came from. The illegal immigrants have no standing in this country (or any country) and as such shouldn't be here. They should not be afforded the ability to break our laws just because.

This is about the same foolishness as the crack addict calling the cops to report their drug dealer didn't deliver their crack after they were paid. If you don't want to be a victim of crime don't be committing crimes. Consider it karma.
 

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This must have gone to an appeals court with a judge who was not appointed by Obama. All the judges who have ruled against Trump were Obama appointees. Trump wins when he takes it to a legitimate court.

FYI. Obama threatened to withhold highway funds for Arizona if we did not go on daylight savings time. Arizona flipped him the bird. We are still on Arizona time, which means our clocks do not change. The Navajo Nation did, however, go on DST because Obama personally approved a lawsuit that awarded the tribes billions of dollars. It was one of those lawsuits that was hung up in the courts for years. So we are a state that is split with the state officially being on Arizona time, but with the Navajo Nation lands (the largest reservation in the country) on DST.

The point is that presidents have the authority to withold government funding for a wide range of reasons.
 

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FYI. Obama threatened to withhold highway funds for Arizona if we did not go on daylight savings time. Arizona flipped him the bird. We are still on Arizona time, which means our clocks do not change. The Navajo Nation did, however, go on DST because Obama personally approved a lawsuit that awarded the tribes billions of dollars. It was one of those lawsuits that was hung up in the courts for years. So we are a state that is split with the state officially being on Arizona time, but with the Navajo Nation lands (the largest reservation in the country) on DST.
That is not quite correct. People habitually call it Arizona time because they struggle with the fact that AZ observes Mountain Standard Time all year long. I try to explain that to people with low IQ and rather than waste my breath trying to teach them, I simply say "we're on California time 7 months out of the year".

The Navajo Reservation is not the only one. There is a sliver of Nevada that runs from Wendover to the Idaho state line at Jackpot that also observes Mountain Standard / Daylight Savings Time. Why? Because all of the Mormons from Salt Lake City flock to Wendover and Twin Falls to Jackpot on the weekends to participate in the sins and other debauchery that accompanies a gambling town.
 
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I understand the argument from the left. If the illegal immigrant victims of crime are afraid they will be deported when they report crimes, then they won't report the crimes. What the left refuse to comprehend is if the illegal immigrant wants to be able to report the crime they need to go back to where they came from. The illegal immigrants have no standing in this country (or any country) and as such shouldn't be here. They should not be afforded the ability to break our laws just because.

This is about the same foolishness as the crack addict calling the cops to report their drug dealer didn't deliver their crack after they were paid. If you don't want to be a victim of crime don't be committing crimes. Consider it karma.
I don't take issue with the illegal alien (not illegal immigrant, as it conveys some sense of standing) coming forward and reporting a crime that they have 1. witnessed or 2. been a victim. If anything, such individuals should be afforded every bit of protection as afforded to everyone else.

I do take exception to state and local governments protecting those illegal aliens who engage in criminal activity. I will never understand why the left thinks that rapists, thieves, and murderers are somehow entitled to special protections from further prosecution, just because said criminals are illegal aliens.
 

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I don't take issue with the illegal alien (not illegal immigrant, as it conveys some sense of standing) coming forward and reporting a crime that they have 1. witnessed or 2. been a victim. If anything, such individuals should be afforded every bit of protection as afforded to everyone else.

I do take exception to state and local governments protecting those illegal aliens who engage in criminal activity. I will never understand why the left thinks that rapists, thieves, and murderers are somehow entitled to special protections from further prosecution, just because said criminals are illegal aliens.
In the minds of leftists, illegal aliens are ALWAYS women and children coming here to look for a better future for themselves.
They honestly believe that illegal immagrants dont commit crimes.
They honestly believe that our economy would not function without a healthy supply of illegal immigrants.
 
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In the minds of leftists, illegal aliens are ALWAYS women and children coming here to look for a better future for themselves.
They honestly believe that illegal immagrants dont commit crimes.
They honestly believe that our economy would not function without a healthy supply of illegal immigrants.
8 CFR properly refers to such individuals as Illegal Aliens, and not "illegal immigrants." Please stop giving standing to such people by using this latter term.

If the left doesn't believe that at least some aren't criminals, or costs the United States somewhere around $250B annually, then they aren't paying attention to actual facts. Otherwise, there isn't a border drug and cash smuggling problem, and a border violent crime problem.

The left isn't that oblivious because of their beliefs. They simply choose to put an alternative story out there, in an subsequent attempt for said illegal aliens to be counted in the census, vote, and the left to take control of government.

If illegal aliens would vote Republican, the left would be screaming for border security.
 

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There is a sliver of Nevada that runs from Wendover to the Idaho state line at Jackpot that also observes Mountain Standard / Daylight Savings Time. Why? Because all of the Mormons from Salt Lake City flock to Wendover and Twin Falls to Jackpot on the weekends to participate in the sins and other debauchery that accompanies a gambling town.
Which has NOTHING to do with the clocks. Never been? They don't even put clocks in the casinos, perpetual twilight in there, with the scent of desperation and stale sweat.:rolleyes:

It's actually because some places are LITERALLY built on the state line, so a chunk of Wendover is a city called Wendover, Utah, since it is IN Utah, not to mention that the nearest "civilization" they have access to is in Utah and Idaho, so the TV and radio are all on Mt time, and it would be confusing to have your clocks and banks and McDonalds drive thru's all different from your TV and radio.
 

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Which has NOTHING to do with the clocks. Never been? They don't even put clocks in the casinos, perpetual twilight in there, with the scent of desperation and stale sweat.:rolleyes:

It's actually because some places are LITERALLY built on the state line, so a chunk of Wendover is a city called Wendover, Utah, since it is IN Utah, not to mention that the nearest "civilization" they have access to is in Utah and Idaho, so the TV and radio are all on Mt time, and it would be confusing to have your clocks and banks and McDonalds drive thru's all different from your TV and radio.
Don't care. Just stating the facts. The casinos are on the Nevada side of the state line. Not in Mormon-land.

Been in the casinos in both when I was based in Wells. Meh....small town casinos with the same sleazy dealers as down in Vegas. Even the food spelled small town. Got better coffee in Donna's than in the casinos.
 

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8 CFR properly refers to such individuals as Illegal Aliens, and not "illegal immigrants." Please stop giving standing to such people by using this latter term.
Yes, illegal alien is the proper term according to the law and the one I use when speaking officially. When speaking more normally with friends I simply use illegals. However, using the term illegal immigrant can neuter the left's argument that people can't be illegal, because you are referring to an act (the act of illegally immigrating) not a person (an alien is a person, how can you be an illegal person). For all intents and purposes it's the same thing. It's no different than referring to people as murderer, thief, or rapist.
 

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Honestly, how much money would be withheld from sanctuary cities and could they weather the loss? All I have seen is a vague "millions" could be withheld. Anyone have any info on how much it is? :confused:
 

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Honestly, how much money would be withheld from sanctuary cities and could they weather the loss? All I have seen is a vague "millions" could be withheld. Anyone have any info on how much it is? :confused:
It is actually in the billions once you add it all up. And yes, it should be held up. Every last penny.
 

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It is actually in the billions once you add it all up. And yes, it should be held up. Every last penny.
Thanks, that is a tidy sum of money! Does it also mean "sanctuary states" lose funding? That would be a real kick to those that went that route. Last I knew CT declared it was sanctuary state. I thought MA did also.
 

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If it were up to me, and I am sure the President's team is looking into it, if the sanctuary cities don't want to get on board it will be rolled up to the state level.
 
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