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Just about everything that has been predicted over the years has come true, except transmission is moving much slower than expected.

China was source of outbreak
China has been dishonest about infection and death rates.
China censored news
CDC and WHO dropped the ball - did not declare emergency fast enough
Narrow CDC testing guidelines allowed virus to be transmitted.
Nations did not close their borders soon enough.
Medical professionals may be running out of supplies
People buying truckloads of food, water and medical supplies
Major name stores rationing
Price gouging
Economy taking a hit

Only thing left to go is violence and riots over food.

I think the big question is whether or not Coronavirus will recede as the weather warms.

In all honesty, the CDC has been pretty much useless during the outbreak. Then again, when have they ever helped control an outbreak.
 

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Just about everything that has been predicted over the years has come true, except transmission is moving much slower than expected.

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It only seems slow because we are used to what we see in movies and all. From a purely historic point of view, this is moving very rapidly. In 1918, the flu pandemic was much slower - it would take weeks to make a journey that we can do in hours now....so the virus would move much slower.
 

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Well it has given the slower of us time to make a last minute grab for supplies.
 

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Just about everything that has been predicted over the years has come true, except transmission is moving much slower than expected.
There are mild strains and no tracking of it. Only the most serious cases are likely to present until people with very mild symptoms start showing up to get the nonexistant tests that except in states like New York need to be co-payed when they do exist. Do you feel like forking over $1000 to get tested when you have the sniffles?

Its impossible to monitor the spread, so the "isn't transmitting fast" is showing time and time again to be a false perception.. it is spreading, cluster cases are popping up everywhere, so it is in the wild, and is a pandemic.




Only thing left to go is violence and riots over food.
Riots generally require large masses of people, a perfect medium for spread and a whole lot of rioters getting sick. (or ending up in jail where the virus will spread like wild fire)


I think the big question is whether or not Coronavirus will recede as the weather warms.
watching the southern hemisphere may be an inclination on that.

The virus can't survive as long airborn in hot temps. The humidity and temperature effect how long it will stay airborn. It won't really effect droplet / direct transmission though.
 

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It only seems slow because we are used to what we see in movies and all. From a purely historic point of view, this is moving very rapidly. In 1918, the flu pandemic was much slower - it would take weeks to make a journey that we can do in hours now....so the virus would move much slower.
Fast or slow the main herd is having a difficult time processing. What’s really sad is so many medical professionals are slow in understanding.
 

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Just about everything that has been predicted over the years has come true, except transmission is moving much slower than expected.

China was source of outbreak
China has been dishonest about infection and death rates.
China censored news
CDC and WHO dropped the ball - did not declare emergency fast enough
Narrow CDC testing guidelines allowed virus to be transmitted.
Nations did not close their borders soon enough.
Medical professionals may be running out of supplies
People buying truckloads of food, water and medical supplies
Major name stores rationing
Price gouging
Economy taking a hit

Only thing left to go is violence and riots over food.

I think the big question is whether or not Coronavirus will recede as the weather warms.

In all honesty, the CDC has been pretty much useless during the outbreak. Then again, when have they ever helped control an outbreak.
Agree with this. I don't think this bug LOOKS like it's the big threat we've been fearing...at least not yet. Definitely needs to be watched though.
 

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Agree with this. I don't think this bug LOOKS like it's the big threat we've been fearing...at least not yet. Definitely needs to be watched though.
What's this about fearing?

I've survived a war. I can sleep on the ground, shoot people and eat bugs again....

I just try to live a life which makes my comforts as sustainable as possible.
 

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Largely agree with the OP but two points:

* It's almost certainly happening fast, and I feel barely ahead of the curve and I've been paying attention. I acted to sell out of the markets a day before the crash, and stock up on my dwindled preps (due to transition) about a couple weeks ahead of the masses. If this were faster I'd have been in trouble. I'm glad I paid attention.

It's happening fast, but it's like a silent stalking animal. Like swimming in the ocean with 30' visibility and a few hungry sharks just outside your view. They are there, stalking... circling.... waiting.... we just don't yet see them.

This went from easy to ignore in China (early - mid Jan) to holy cow, this is bad (late Feb), in a hurry. We are only maybe 4-6 weeks behind China, and maybe 2 weeks behind S. Korea or Italy or Iran with exploding rates. We are now starting to double our numbers every 2-3 days. It will get very fast going forward.

* There has been some violence and assaults. I've seen several news articles of fighting or weapons draw or used over foods or supplies, or just general terroristic behavior. And in the US we had a threat of terroristic use of the virus at a Trump rally.
I recall a video of a fight breaking out in Italy at a grocery store, and someone pulled a knife I think in the USA over some shopping dispute. I expect "Black Friday" fighting any day now... it's an almost certainty in March or April IMO.
 

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appears to be moving slow because the US hasn't been testing at all... (can't count infections if you don't even test....)

...meanwhile South Korea has tested over 140,000


US should be adding thousands to the infected count over the next couple weeks...
 

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It only seems slow because we are used to what we see in movies and all. From a purely historic point of view, this is moving very rapidly. In 1918, the flu pandemic was much slower - it would take weeks to make a journey that we can do in hours now....so the virus would move much slower.
I came here to say this. I think outbreak/zombie movies conditioned me -- and perhaps others here as well -- to think 100% chance of infection of everyone who is touched by even a small droplet, takeover of a city within hours... but even the "super spreader" in Singapore who visited a business conference, shook hands, close contact with hundreds (thousands) only infected twelve.

It's bad, but it's not zombie bad. (Yet.) :upsidedown:
 

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"I think the big question is whether or not Coronavirus will recede as the weather warms."

Boy I sure as heck hope so!
Just got this e-mail the other day.
Illinois #5 victim is currently here in isolation.

COVID-19 Novel Coronavirus Update

Dear *****,

Your health and well-being while visiting our clinics is a top priority at Rush.

We know that news of the Coronavirus may have caused concerns.

We want to assure you that we are taking every precaution to ensure your safety during your visit. There is no need to cancel any appointments, procedures, or elective surgeries. We have rigorous systems in place for screening and isolating any person who presents with Coronavirus symptoms, and then fully supporting their care as warranted.

Our hospital is one of 35 federally designated hospitals specifically designed to treat infectious diseases, which means we are staffed with renowned infectious disease specialists and equipped with the capabilities, training and facilities to provide the treatment necessary to care for a person with a complex or highly transmissible disease while minimizing risk to other patients.

Cleanliness is a priority at Rush. We sanitize our clinics and patient rooms, as well as all waiting rooms and public areas. We have stations throughout the campus with hand sanitizer, Kleenex and masks (for those who have a cough or any cold symptoms).

As part of growing efforts to combat coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), Rush University System for Health now offers on-demand video visits for people who are concerned they might be infected with the novel 2019 coronavirus. A Rush provider will assess your condition and walk you through next steps, including how to come to Rush for care. Video visits are available 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., Monday through Friday.

I will be checking in here in about a couple of months from now.
I've had 3 derailments in my saga ..don't need any more.
 

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Two things;
We're not doing widespread testing yet like South Korea. (one of the reasons they had a big jump early on)
Our media (and their um.....cohorts in government) have in fact been working behind the scenes to make this more than it is for obvious reasons.

LeadCounsel added some relevant points to this;
We are a [email protected] behind China and a couple of weeks behind some other countries. People are on edge so take an even strain.

Our temps are mild where I'm at. Daily highs are in the 70's and will begin climbing. That might mean we'll see less. Or not. IIRC, one case here was someone who traveled to China. The other got it from a friend-who-had-this-friend. Total cases are low right now but they just put a whole truck's worth of firefighters on home quarrantine because they had an exposure.

Cruise ships seem to be having a higher rate of infections which, considering people's travel patterns, this fits. I would say you have to be an idiot to take a cruise right now but I got family who went anyway and will be back next week. Provided they don't get quarrantined LOL. No. They're not coming to dinner anytime soon when they get back. Only way you'd get me to use mass transit would be to hold a gun to my head. Come to think of it, that wouldn't work either LOL. No way I'm getting on a jet-powered germ factory or bus. Or ubers.

So. If you don't have to travel, don't. If you don't have to be out, don't. Limit your exposure by picking the times and places. Use proper precautions. Of course we'd all like to carry on with our lives and we can. The world isn't just going to stop until this thing runs its course. But be sensible.


Just about everything that has been predicted over the years has come true, except transmission is moving much slower than expected.

China was source of outbreak
China has been dishonest about infection and death rates.
China censored news
CDC and WHO dropped the ball - did not declare emergency fast enough
Narrow CDC testing guidelines allowed virus to be transmitted.
Nations did not close their borders soon enough.
Medical professionals may be running out of supplies
People buying truckloads of food, water and medical supplies
Major name stores rationing
Price gouging
Economy taking a hit

Only thing left to go is violence and riots over food.

I think the big question is whether or not Coronavirus will recede as the weather warms.

In all honesty, the CDC has been pretty much useless during the outbreak. Then again, when have they ever helped control an outbreak.
 

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Heard at Walmart today, one millenial talking to another "It's only killing old people".
 
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Just my WAG, but I would imagine it will "take off" in the future, possibly the near future , it seems now they're going to start testing more for it. There is just too much we're not being told about this, and has been mentioned many times, the .Gov are doing things while saying " nothing to see here" .
 
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