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This was emailed to me, comparing civilian society with what the combat soldier experiences every day on the sharp end.

"Your cell phone is in your pocket.
He clutches the cross hanging on his chain next to his dog tags.

You talk trash about your 'buddies' that aren't with you.
He knows he may not see some of his buddies again.

You walk down the beach, staring at all the pretty girls.
He patrols the streets, searching for insurgents and terrorists.

You complain about how hot it is
He wears his heavy gear, not daring to take off his helmet to wipe his brow.

You go out to lunch, and complain because the restaurant got your order wrong.
He doesn't get to eat today.

Your maid makes your bed and washes your clothes.
He wears the same things for weeks, but makes sure his weapons are clean.

You go to the mall and get your hair redone.
He doesn't have time to brush his teeth today.

You're angry because your class ran 5 minutes over.
He's told he will be held over an extra 2 months.

You call your girlfriend and set a date for tonight.
He waits for the mail to see if there is a letter from home.

You hug and kiss your girlfriend, like you do everyday.
He holds his letter close and smells his love's perfume.

You roll your eyes as a baby cries.
He gets a letter with pictures of his new child, and wonders if they'll ever meet.

You criticize your government, and say that war never solves anything.
He sees the innocent tortured and killed by their own people and remembers why he is fighting.

You hear the jokes about the war, and make fun of men like him.
He hears the gunfire, bombs and screams of the wounded.

You see only what the media wants you to see.
He sees the broken bodies lying around him.

You are asked to go to the store by your parents. You don't.
He does exactly what he is told even if it puts his life in danger.

You stay at home and watch TV.
He takes whatever time he is given to call, write home, sleep, and eat.

You crawl into your soft bed, with down pillows, and get comfortable.
He tries to sleep but gets woken by mortars and helicopters all night long.

REMEMBER our Troops, and do not forget them LATER
Lest we forget "


Take care of their families, and bring them home safely
 

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I really apreciate what the soldiers are doing for us over there. Everyone that I know that has come home has said they would do it again if needed. They know what they are fighting for and believe in their cause. Thanks.
 

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No doubt its tough, but it’s a job, they signed up for it.

I attended a presentation from a recruiter and it was the oddest thing ive seen in a while. (Im also an Army brat with a dad who was in for 16 years and have had 5 generations fight in American Wars... so im not just basing my statement just on a 1/2 hour presentation)

First he appealed to the audiences selfish side, talking about all of the benefits, traveling the world, taking vacation on leave to any place in the world (Europe, Asia, etc).

Then he appealed to the selfless, sacrificing for your country, and what they go through in a combat zone.

Finally he closed with the selfish side, by talking about signing bonuses (up to $25,000 at that point), job opportunities and the free college you get from the GI bill.
 

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Or........ He was just one that thought that this country was worth fighting for and standing up for the constitution. He thought that maybe he could make a difference. He thought that even though his country had some issues, it was still the best country to be in, and to die for. Even though he may not beleive in why he is there, he beleives that this is for the benefit of the country that he is sworn to protect.

It does happen..........

(sometimes)
 

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Or........ He was just one that thought that this country was worth fighting for and standing up for the constitution. He thought that maybe he could make a difference. He thought that even though his country had some issues, it was still the best country to be in, and to die for. Even though he may not beleive in why he is there, he beleives that this is for the benefit of the country that he is sworn to protect.

It does happen..........

(sometimes)
It does happen, quite often.

And he is let down by the *******s in charge.
 

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They fight "against those who hate our freedoms", yet come home to find that the government is really the one that hates our freedoms.

This marine knows.

http://www.suntimes.com/4436773-417...-marriage-gets-st.-charles-man-on-no-fly-list

E-mail on interfaith marriage gets St. Charles man on no-fly list

By Chris Hawley and John Curran Mar 22, 2011 02:06AM

Abe Mashal, a 31-year-old dog trainer from St. Charles, says FBI agents told him he ended up on the government’s no-fly list because he exchanged e-mails with a Muslim cleric they were monitoring.

The topic: How to raise his children in an interfaith household.

Mashal said he has never had any links to terror or terrorists and is a “patriotic,” honorably discharged Marine Corps veteran.

He found out he’d been flagged last April, when he tried to board a flight to Spokane, Wash., to train dogs for a client. Since then, his family members and friends have been questioned, and he said he has lost business because he isn’t allowed to fly.

Mashal is one of 17 plaintiffs in a lawsuit filed in June by the American Civil Liberties Union over the list.

FBI agents questioned him at Midway Airport, then at his home. Finally, he was summoned to a hotel in Schaumburg, where more FBI agents told him he’d been placed on the no-fly list because of an e-mail he had sent to an imam — a Muslim cleric — whom they’d been watching.

Mashal said he had sought the imam’s advice about raising children in a mixed-religion household. Mashal is Muslim; his wife is Christian.

He said the agents offered to get him off the list — if he would become an undercover informant at mosques. He refused and said he feels he was being blackmailed.

“I feel like I’m living in communist Russia, not the United States of America, for someone to jump into my life like that,” he said.

The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, which enforces the no-fly list, wouldn’t comment. In October, Homeland Security sent Mashal a letter saying that it had reviewed his file and that “it has been determined that no changes or corrections are warranted at this time.”
 

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They fight "against those who hate our freedoms", yet come home to find that the government is really the one that hates our freedoms.

This marine knows.

http://www.suntimes.com/4436773-417...-marriage-gets-st.-charles-man-on-no-fly-list
So they know enough to see he's been emailing back and forth with this guy and did they check to see what about? Oh no, they never do that, that takes time and everyone in the office is a little cranky today so of course not!

Clearly the emails weren't about anything bad, or else he would have been locked up ASAP. So what the hell, FBI?
 
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