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Hey all,

I just moved into a new place in the city. When I go out for runs, I see rabbits all over the place, and have seen them in the parking lot behind my house eating clover and weeds. We also have squirrels all over the place, and my roommate claims to have seen a huge raccoon out back.

Obviously, this strikes me as an easy way to get some food. Problem is, it is illegal here (out of season, city ordinances), but I don't think my neighbors would care. They have seen me cleaning fish on the front porch (no place else to do it) and think I am a huge hick already, so I don't really care about skinning some squirrels or rabbits or even a big **** out there. But, the illegal problem is, I can't use a .22 or a .410 because it would draw too much suspicion. I do have a CO2 powered pellet gun and a pump BB gun--been thinking about using these to hunt the small game. Trapping would be ideal, but is out of the question, as I do not want to trap any dogs or cats.

My question is--would a pump bb gun or CO2 powered pellet gun be strong enough to take out the big raccoon? Would I want to go for a head shot or do a vitals? A friend of mine also has a blow gun, so we have toyed with the idea of shooting darts at squirrels/rabbits, but I'm not sure if these would actually disable the animals or just injure them. I am going for full lethality as I do not want to have the wounded animal disappear and go to waste.

I was thinking about making a pile of fish guts in the back yard for the raccoon. I would camp out on the fire escape with a book and a flashlight, and if the **** comes by, shoot it at the bait pile. I do not want to make a habit of attracting pests here, though, as I noticed the dumpy couch on our front porch (picked up off the curb) had been torn up after I had simply placed some dead bait minnows on it while I transferred the minnows to a different bucket.

If anybody else in a similar situation has experiences or advice to share, I'd also appreciate it.

Thank you.
 

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slingshot for the hares and squrrel slingbow for the **** deadly just alittle practice and you will be a great shot
 

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a bolt action .22 with shorts is almost silent. I wouldn't shoot anything with a BB gun and certainly not expect to kill a raccoon with a Daisy pellet gun. A blow gun is not good for anything. the only way to kill with a slingshot would be to get a really powerful band and shoot ball ammo or marbles or steel bearings, and even then, you would want a head shot.

Squirrels are tough as nails, rabbits not so much. you would need a .22 or a bow and arrow for the raccoon.

I live in the city too unfortunately but there are a lot of woods nearby and I go hunting there all the time. Rabbit, deer, beaver, dove. I just do it either early in the morning or just before dark, and then carry back the big items after dark.
 

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I have a Gamo .177 caliber air rifle. It makes just a little less noise than a .22 short. Rabbits and squirrels are no match at the ranges in my (city) back yard. If I was going to try to take a raccoon, I'd go for an eye shot or a shot in the spine immediately behind the skull.

The ammo you use makes a big difference.
 

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I have a Gamo .177 caliber air rifle. It makes just a little less noise than a .22 short. Rabbits and squirrels are no match at the ranges in my (city) back yard. If I was going to try to take a raccoon, I'd go for an eye shot or a shot in the spine immediately behind the skull.

The ammo you use makes a big difference.
There is probably a big difference in FPS in the GAMO vs a Daisy tho, as the OP said he had. I have a Benjamin 177 that I can kill squirrels and rabbits and birds with, but I don't know about a raccoon. Maybe someone here has done it and post about it.
 

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I messed up....OP didn't state he had a Daisy, that was another thread and I got my wires crossed. there are some CO2 guns that are really powerful, like the Airforce Condor .22 pellet rifle, but I don't know anything about Daisy's fps.
 

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Why not just set some traps then use a small bat or piece of pipe. Makes no noise. Plus it will give you and opportunity to practice setting traps for the times when you may not have any sort of projectile firing weapon.

Many years ago I hunted rabbits, squirrels and raccoon among other things with a re-curve bow in town. Just make sure your neighbors are cool or they can cause you a big headache with the popo.
 

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There are air rifles out there that can take deer. Not advised, but in survival all bets are off.
What I wonder is this. What percentage of city animals are edible and what percentage would be sick, diseased not edible for various reasons? Also, how would one tell the difference?
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There are air rifles out there that can take deer. Not advised, but in survival all bets are off.
What I wonder is this. What percentage of city animals are edible and what percentage would be sick, diseased not edible for various reasons? Also, how would one tell the difference?
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Not being funny, but look for erratic behavior, sluggishness, and sickly mannerisms.

If you can find where the animals are primarily feeding you'll be able to guess-timate what level of toxins are in the creatures. Check the soil and grasses for the presence of weeds (or lack thereof), the ground height to be higher than street runoff, the presence of chemical and fertilizer burns, look at the local water points and check for life. Do you see insects, amphibians, and/or plant matter?

Overall this is what I use to determine if I can forage in an area, including in the city limits. So, I will offer the assumption that if the "food & water" of the creature look healthy, it'll be okay to feed upon them.

Now, really take in consideration what is eating off of the asphalt and or near roads because of chemical run offs and the like.
 

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There are animal damage control specialist who make a great living in metro areas taking care of animal problems. Racoons, squirrels and skunks are probably number one. As stated above, trapping is probably the most discrete and efficient way to gather. If they are caught in footholds a wallop on the head will kill them. Snares, if properly set will generally kill an animal though many trappers have a difficult time getting consistent neck catches on *****. There are body grip traps that kill very quickly. Just remember traps are indiscriminate and anything wondering into one of these is going to pay dearly. Live trapped animals can be drowned in a garbage can full of water. People tend to think drowning an animal is cruel, but their experience is not subjectively the same as ours would be. I suppose a live trap could be dropped into a freezer. People who've suffered severe hypothermia seem to report it is not an unpleasant experience.
 

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If you kill the racoon, then another racoon will move into the territory and that one might be fond of turning over garbage cans. If it were me, I would leave the **** alone.

I use a hav-a-hart trap for racoons that cause me problems: there have been a few. I got the trap from the feed store. From what I have heard, once a **** has been trapped he is not likely to step into a trap again so do not try to trap him just for the practice!

The beauty of a hav-a-hart trap is that you can release your cat or your neighbors cat unharmed if you catch him. Cats like what racoons like! In fact I have used dry cat food as bait. I got my trap at a feed store.

As for rabbits, they make rabbit sized hav-a-hart traps too but I have never used one. Try a google search on "rabbit gums", there is a lot of info there!
 

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Hate to tell you ...... but in a severe SHTF situation ...... you will be fighting your neighbors for those cats and dogs you don't want to trap ......
 

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I have a Gamo .177 caliber air rifle. It makes just a little less noise than a .22 short. Rabbits and squirrels are no match at the ranges in my (city) back yard. If I was going to try to take a raccoon, I'd go for an eye shot or a shot in the spine immediately behind the skull.

The ammo you use makes a big difference.
In my limited experience with raccoons, an eye shot is not always the best bet. I got one in the eye once and it screamed like nothing i've ever heard before (kinda chilling, actually), but he got away and lived. Probably due to the fact that i'm using an air rifle that a paid 40 bucks at a pawn shop for. It's accurate, but i'm thinking not real powerful. There are no markings on it at all so I can't research what it is or how powerful it might be.

Where I work we have quite a few raccoons that scavenge from our dumpsters and when I work night shift, I try to take out one or two, but they are tough little bastards. I can't count the number of times I made a good head shot but the critter just ran away. Behind the ear is your best bet. Sever the spinal chord. I've only gotten one that way, and it was a lucky shot, for sure.
 

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In my limited experience with raccoons, an eye shot is not always the best bet. I got one in the eye once and it screamed like nothing i've ever heard before (kinda chilling, actually), but he got away and lived. Probably due to the fact that i'm using an air rifle that a paid 40 bucks at a pawn shop for. It's accurate, but i'm thinking not real powerful. There are no markings on it at all so I can't research what it is or how powerful it might be.

Where I work we have quite a few raccoons that scavenge from our dumpsters and when I work night shift, I try to take out one or two, but they are tough little bastards. I can't count the number of times I made a good head shot but the critter just ran away. Behind the ear is your best bet. Sever the spinal chord. I've only gotten one that way, and it was a lucky shot, for sure.
You should try to take out yourself with your unidentified pellet gun with some lead to the eye and see how it works out. I would like to say a few other things to you but I would probably get banned. I think you should be banned just for posting that filth, you are either around 16 or a complete idiot or probably both.
 

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Two words: Box Trap. If your hesitant to use an air rifle such as a Gamo or others that are DESIGNED as hunting weapons, get a couple of Hav-a-Hart traps. They're available at feed stores, Tractor Supply Stores and other like them. If you catch the neigborhood cats just turn them loose. Bait it with carrots and greens for rabbits, cat or doog food for *****, however, beware the Skunk, he likes these things also. If you catch one of those be prepared to gag weather you shoot them or release them.
 

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If you happen to catch a skunk, there is a way to move and release them. Hold a quilt or blanket-like material in front of you. Walk slowly to the trap and cover it with the material. As long as you keep the trap covered so the skunk can't see you, it is easy to move the trap. Move it slowly to the area where you want to release the skunk. I put them in the back of the pickup and take them further out in the country.....

We catch animals all the time in our back yard:

 

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Two words: Box Trap. If your hesitant to use an air rifle such as a Gamo or others that are DESIGNED as hunting weapons, get a couple of Hav-a-Hart traps. They're available at feed stores, Tractor Supply Stores and other like them. If you catch the neigborhood cats just turn them loose. Bait it with carrots and greens for rabbits, cat or doog food for *****, however, beware the Skunk, he likes these things also. If you catch one of those be prepared to gag weather you shoot them or release them.
In the spirit of this forum and just for general badassery and meanness, I am going to go out tonight and shoot a cat, take pics, skin cat, cook cat, and eat it. These f'n cats and dogs and other scumbags that inhabit ghetto areas and do more harm than good, they are good eatin. Why does anyone think that a housecat or cocker spaniel or slavery-inducing, drug pushing pimp deserve, and deserves got nothing to do with it, any more or less than for me to shoot them and eat their livers? All I got to say, "if you don't think I'm tryin' to blow your plan, what you try'in to hand me?"
 

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As a teen, I used to trap on my buddies dairy farm. Leg hold traps and a pipe to thump them, are no guarrentee of a noiseless dispatching of ANY critter. They can make alot of load noises dying. ****, skunk, opossum. A large connabear body trap is a better option, will likely dispatch them quicker and quieter.

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