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Good news Chris. I am certain you will get the chance to vote against socialism this November, and help save the world.
Four more years of Donald Trump should get you excited again.
MAGA 2020!
Trump has as yet not proven himself as a free markets and anti market intervention president and his point man Bill Barr is advocating US taxpayers money be poured into buying stakes Euro telecommunications equipment manufacturing.

https://techxplore.com/news/2020-02-nokia-ericsson-huawei-attorney.html
 

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Trump has as yet not proven himself as a free markets and anti market intervention president and his point man Bill Barr is advocating US taxpayers money be poured into buying stakes Euro telecommunications equipment manufacturing.

https://techxplore.com/news/2020-02-nokia-ericsson-huawei-attorney.html
The goal is to keep the Chinese from monopolizing the market which keeps free market enterprise alive and thriving. Bill Barr is over the DOJ, he cannot submit bills to the House or Senate, he is just hypothesizing the need

The proposals involve "American ownership of a controlling stake, either directly or through a consortium of private American and allied companies," he said
We see what all the other 2020 contenders are promising as far as their platforms on other issues at hand. Their Socialism shows with regards to Nationalization of many things aside from 5G


I'll stick with Trump
 

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More and more liberal dems are becoming alarmed at the socialism being pushed by the democrats.

When Chris Matthews does so, it's PRICELESS.:thumb:

Chris along with his network MSDNC, played a part in promoting this crap!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=49B57dwZHUU&feature=emb_logo

Ironically ... most of the Dems speaking out against Socialism ARE Socialists (even if they don't want to admit it).


Matthews has been pushing us towards Socialism for decades.
 

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Today I watched Kevin Costner come out for Bernie. I wonder if he understands that Bernie has capped wealth at one million and he is going to distribute the rest because government knows best.
ughh, first Brad Pitt and now him...my favorite actors too. Now, tin foil hat here...could it be that to save their jobs in Hollywood, they are being forced to go with the flow as well so they can still work, even though they don't really feel that way? I know they are a bunch of millionaires who get paid tons to pretend to be someone they are not...but can soo many people be that out of touch with reality and dumb?
 

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Ironically ... most of the Dems speaking out against Socialism ARE Socialists (even if they don't want to admit it).


Matthews has been pushing us towards Socialism for decades.
The problem with socialists and liberals and talking heads is they are always changing the definitions of the words they use. You need them to explain the context and their interpretation of the word they are using before you can determine whether or not they are using it correctly or if they are simply using it they way they want it to use it. They do that.

Liberal, progressive, socialist describe a singular group of people that use different names at different times to describe who they are. When they wear an identity out or it becomes tainted, in this instance socialism, they simply switch to another name never missing a beat. Perhaps Tingles is simply signaling a name change.
 

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I have always considered a person's affinity for socialism as kind of pseudo-IQ. Not strictly IQ, because many socialists are quite intelligent. But they are not very smart. It doesn't take long to look at history and see what socialism does to a people.
 

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... but - it's never been tried properly! For some reason everybody who actually had the gumption ( and the noose around the populations neck ) to try it has failed to do it right! WE will be the ones do do it right, for the first time since 1917!

somehow, nobody who says this can ever pin down what, exactly, everybody else did wrong. it's kinda like the crew that does Star Trek, telling us they eliminated poverty, which eliminated wars and crime, but never a word about how.
 

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... but - it's never been tried properly! For some reason everybody who actually had the gumption ( and the noose around the populations neck ) to try it has failed to do it right! WE will be the ones do do it right, for the first time since 1917!

somehow, nobody who says this can ever pin down what, exactly, everybody else did wrong. it's kinda like the crew that does Star Trek, telling us they eliminated poverty, which eliminated wars and crime, but never a word about how.
The liberals have always said, .....but we can do something better/right.

Regardless of how many times something has failed historically.

Venezuela had a very high standard of living prior to it's socialism, which morphed into communism.
 

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Yes, Venezuela had the 3rd highest standard of living in the Western Hemisphere until they voted for a socialist who turned it into communism. (Happens all the time). They promised free health care with oil profits, then lower prices on gasoline. After taking power, they took over the oil industry from drilling to the gas pumps, the gave free health care, then they took over the utilities including the AT&T owned phone system (said to regulate prices, eliminate profits, lower costs). Then the infrastructure started to crumble. Didn't know how to run or manage it. What they didn't realise is most profits are poured back into the companies for maintenance and improvements after paying salaries. At least the NAZI's didn't take over private companies completely, just told them when and what to make in the way of war supplies. Both are bad. With control of everything, socialists think they can equally distribute things. Eventually it is a spiral downward to the lowest common denominator. No upward mobility as in capitalism.
 

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Yes, Venezuela had the 3rd highest standard of living in the Western Hemisphere until they voted for a socialist who turned it into communism. (Happens all the time). They promised free health care with oil profits, then lower prices on gasoline. After taking power, they took over the oil industry from drilling to the gas pumps, the gave free health care, then they took over the utilities including the AT&T owned phone system (said to regulate prices, eliminate profits, lower costs). Then the infrastructure started to crumble. Didn't know how to run or manage it. What they didn't realise is most profits are poured back into the companies for maintenance and improvements after paying salaries. At least the NAZI's didn't take over private companies completely, just told them when and what to make in the way of war supplies. Both are bad. With control of everything, socialists think they can equally distribute things. Eventually it is a spiral downward to the lowest common denominator. No upward mobility as in capitalism.
Good luck convincing the average lib out here.

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