[Ghost863]

And DEW are allowed (Directed Energy Weapons).

Indians were occupying a hilltop and the Chinese wanted them off that hill. A Chinese engineer rigged up a radar of some sort and fired it at the hill. In a few minutes, the Indians were seen dancing in pain and they ran away and the Chinese took that hill.

First ever use of Microwaves in battle.

U.S. has been testing the technology for years to disperse riots. It is supposed to super heat the skin and organs. But when people talk about it they call us crazy and it is just a conspiracy

 

[Rigel]

U.S. has been testing the technology for years to disperse riots.

Dispersing rioters is a police operation (even if the military is doing it). That means, the safety of the public and peoples' health comes first. So the frequencies and power levels are carefully selected. The American tech will not cause permanent harm.. just discomfort.

The Chinese, however, used it in a battle operation. That means, they were out to kill or hurt the enemy, to hell with their health and safety.

So the power they used and the frequencies they used will probably give the Indians butt-cancer or something years later.

I looked it up... the permanent damage most likely with powerful microwaves is cataracts in the eyes. They'll go blind in a few years.

 

[JLW1974]

Apparently, a "Cold Weapon" is a weapon that doesn't fire anything.

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Amid border standoff, China buys fresh lot of weapons used in Galwan clash | Exclusive

Chinese Army has purchased 'combined maces' that belong to the category of 'cold weapons', which were used in the Galwan clash that claimed the lives of 20 Indian soldiers in 2020. The purchases come at a time when the two countries are locked in a border stand-off.

www.indiatoday.in

According to the rules, neither side is allowed to use guns along the Line of Actual Control (the China-India border). So the Chinese killed over 40 Indians with bats and took 2000 square kilometers of Indian territory two years ago.

And judging from the new order of spiky weapons, they are in no mood to give India back whatever they took.

These spiked weapons have become a common feature at the Line of Actual Control between India and China.

According to some reports, the People’s Armed Police in Tianjin have used maces in the past to take on criminals during patrolling. PLA troopers have also been trained to use maces in combat.

Another report has highlighted that the PLA placed an order to buy 2,600 such maces.

The length of the mace is around 1.8 metres. It consists of three parts — the hammer head, the rod body, and the rod drill.

The hammer head is about 50 cm, equipped with fine steel spikes and sharp corners at both ends, machined, welded and quenched to ensure strength. The rod body is made of zinc steel pipe.

The head of the long stick was covered with long thorns.

The weapon is a combined mace — which means the spikes can be separated from the rod if required.

Some versions might be capable of working as a stun "taser".

Think the vikings and medieval ages were onto something with sharp, heavy, blunt force weapons.

Just watched LOTR last night and even with the cinematography, seemed quiet effective. A 5lb sledge hammer would also do the job.

 

[Fangorn Monsato]

So the power they used and the frequencies they used will probably give the Indians butt-cancer or something years later.

But if Indian soldiers' rectums start falling out, the Chinese might start mistaking them for Americans.

 

[Ghost863]

But if Indian soldiers' rectums start falling out, the Chinese might start mistaking them for Americans.

Only Liberal Americans. Those of us who love God, the Constitution and want to put America first don't go for that gay ****.

 

[Fangorn Monsato]

Only Liberal Americans. Those of us who love God, the Constitution and want to put America first don't go for that gay ****.

Yeah, but Biden's zampolits don't want you in glorious revolutionary woke gay army, and it's doubtful that Nikki "Face of the New South" Randhawa will either. If your bowels are not gnarly, you may not join the army.

(sidenote: although I may not like Nikki very much, on the whole I actually kind of like Punjabis.)

 

[Ghost863]

Yeah, but Biden's zampolits don't want you in glorious revolutionary woke gay army, and it's doubtful that Nikki "Face of the New South" Randhawa will either. If your bowels are not gnarly, you may not join the army.

(sidenote: although I may not like Nikki very much, on the whole I actually kind of like Punjabis.)

I did my time in the army back when the men still had balls and the women didn't. So if they don't want me back in the United States Army, I'm good with that.

 

[Colt]

Spears/Polearms are always the correct answer in organized melee warfare. Anything else is for street fights or desperation due to a broken spear/polearm.

 

[TRyan]

Burning question: Did they order the weapons on Amazon? If so, did Amazon put in the order to China to make them, then have them shipped to the US for warehouse processing and finally ship them back to China for delivery?

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[Rural Buckeye Guy]

Gladius, the roman short sword.....good for stabbing, draw cuts and chopping. Much quicker and deadlier than a baby seal killer like that club. Just step in close and push to bind them up, then start laying in some major bloodloss. Thighs are so open in shieldwalls to stabs.

 

[Rigel]

Gladius, the roman short sword.....good for stabbing, draw cuts and chopping.

Here is my Gladius inspired knife.... Wider in the middle then at the handle end... a leaf shape. Excellent balance... like the knife itself is in control, not my hand. I deliberately chose the Gladius design for that reason. The Romans knew what they were doing.

I don't think knives are allowed or else they would have been used already. Or they are certainly a gray area.

But before guns make an appearance, there is a good chance, knives and swords might.

 

[Rigel]

BTW, I have never seen an Indian or Chinese soldier carry a knife.

 

[Fangorn Monsato]

BTW, I have never seen an Indian or Chinese soldier carry a knife.

Really? Weird, considering Sikhism...

 

[Rigel]

Really? Weird, considering Sikhism...

Sikhs are required by their religion to carry a small knife called a kirpan. But as soldiers I have not seen them have any. Then again I haven't actually seen an Indian soldier up close. Maybe one hides it in their underwear or something....

Anyway, there have been no stabbing incidents ... yet... along the LAC.

 

[Fangorn Monsato]

Sikhs are required by their religion to carry a small knife called a kirpan. But as soldiers I have not seen them have any. Then again I haven't actually seen an Indian soldier up close. Maybe one hides it in their underwear or something....

Anyway, there have been no stabbing incidents ... yet... along the LAC.

Yeah, modern kirpans tend to be more ceremonial than practical weapons from what (admittedly little) I know of them. They can be carried openly or concealed, depending on circumstances.

Indian military may require them to be kept in concealed sheaths, as many modern legal jurisdictions do.

 

[Rigel]

I asked an AI search engine if Indian soldiers carry knives. The AI said, there is no standard issue knife for the Indian armed forces. Some may carry a knock-off version of a Swiss Army Knife. Nothing like a Ka-bar. And no mention of a kirpan.

Of course, the Gurkhas carry their Kukri. Not sure if the Indians want their Gurkha soldiers confronting the Chinese.... they might join the Chinese side.

As for Kirpans being ceremonial.... When India and Pakistan separated, around a million people died on both sides. Most of our dead were killed with Kirpans.

So yeah it's ceremonial... until it isn't.

 

[jmf552]

People here seem to be discounting the Indian Forces vs. the Chinese. I can see that is an easy bet to make, but I would not go too far with it. The Indian Army has a proud tradition based on the old British regimental system. Soldiers generally stay with their regiments for their whole career. Each regiment has its own uniforms, customs and traditions. Soldiers have a reputation of being fiercely loyal and good fighters. They tend to fight to the last. Also, the Indian Army is the second largest in the world and they are defending their home turf. A lot of fighting is in the north, in the mountains, and the Indian troops up there are more used to training and fighting in those harsh conditions.

Recent skirmishes have gone both ways. China has not always won. China definitely has big advantages, but I don't think the Indian forces will be push-overs by any means.

 

[Rigel]

Recent skirmishes have gone both ways.

No, they have gone one way. China didn't lose any territory.

The Indian Army has a proud tradition based on the old British regimental system.

So do most countries of the British Commonwealth. Most of them are quite pathetic.

Also, the Indian Army is the second largest in the world

Saddam had the third largest army in the world. And look what happened to him and his country.

 

[jmf552]

No, they have gone one way. China didn't lose any territory.

India wasn't trying to take Chinese territory, just protect their own. But they sent the Chinese running off back home a few times. I am not saying they are China's equal. I am just saying don't count them out.

People are all worried about Russia, but they haven't proven to be all that effective on the ground. I think the same will be true of China. Communist, conscripted armies don't have the heart for the fight that people protecting their own turf do.

They are strong, but they are not invincible.

 

[Rigel]

India wasn't trying to take Chinese territory, just protect their own.

They encroached into Chinese territory. Ambushed and killed 4 Chinese soldiers. And then got the thrashing of their lives.

But they sent the Chinese running off back home a few times.

There are many strategic retreats and charges... back and forth .. in any skirmish. The end result is what stands.

Having said that, India made a Bollywood movie staring Ajay Devgand. Clips from that movie have deliberately been circulated all over YouTube and such to show India didn't lose as miserably as it did.

I am just saying don't count them out.

I have counted India out since ten years now. Totally and completely.

I think the same will be true of China.

Why? China has nothing in common with Russia.