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China's own designed carrier. Notice it does not have one of those stupid "ski jumps". Those limited the amount of weapons and fuel their fighters could carry.

No, this one has three electromagnetic catapults. And unlike the Gerald Ford's catapults.. which run on AC power... the Type 003 uses HVDC (high voltage DC).

The catapults are covered in the pics.

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Even their Close in Weapon Systems have AESA radars!
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hat boat looks strangely familiar......

I'm guessing it was designed with stolen American technology no doubt!
It's a carrier, dude. Of course it will look like other carriers.

And as I pointed out, it has some tech that US carriers don't have.

The next one... Type 004... will probably be nuclear powered.
 

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War is never, ever fair , you fight With one goal in mind and that is TOO WIN at ALL costs.
Based on their recent history, the chicoms will use every possible underhanded dirty trick and then some when they feel they are in a fully dominate position, militarily speaking.

Expect a sneak attack, if such a thing is still possible, since there is sattelite coverage everywhere these days. Even so, I believe they will hit Australia, Phillipeans, Midway, etc.

It will happen. russia & china together.

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Best I can do at this time.
 

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Is there anything the ChiComs WON'T copy?
At the level of an aircraft carrier, copying will actually be counter-productive. It's much better to make your own.

China's first carrier is a modified Russian heavy cruiser turned into a carrier. Their second is an improvement on that but still derived from that design. They are not happy with those carriers because they don't have a catapult.

That means their planes can only take off with half their weapons and half the fuel. The J-15 is the largest plane to be a used on a carrier anyway... it's big and heavy.

It was a no brainier to make a carrier WITH catapults. And they did not copy the US Navy's steam catapults. These are electric.
 

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Can a hypersonic missile defeat a carrier turning most of the fleet into expensive fireballs. Can a hypersonic missile be defeated by a layered defense system? And is existing Russo/Chinese technology as advanced as claimed? All open questions and it looks like China wants the answers

 

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And is existing Russo/Chinese technology
There is no Russo/Chinese hypersonic tech. There is either Chinese or Russian. They are not sharing.

Chinese missiles are more advanced than American ones generally and for sure more advanced than any Russian garbage.
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BTW, Russia has said that American hypersonic missile tech is also advanced. America is just pretending at failing.

Can a hypersonic missile be defeated by a layered defense system?
Not yet.
 

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There is no Russo/Chinese hypersonic tech. There is either Chinese or Russian. They are not sharing.

Chinese missiles are more advanced than American ones generally and for sure more advanced than any Russian garbage.

BTW, Russia has said that American hypersonic missile tech is also advanced. America is just pretending at failing.

Not yet.
I didn't mean that it was a shared tech just that both have the tech in various forms

so in your considered opinion are aircraft carriers now just expensive targets or still viable?
 
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so in your considered opinion are aircraft carriers now just expensive targets or still viable?
Depends on who is using them and against whom.

USA was giving us a giant cruiser size ship, very cheap. We could've put our own choice of weapons on it and made it awesome. But we declined the offer. Because that would've been our largest boat and if something happened to it during war, the whole navy would be demoralized.

So according to our navy, big boats.. specially carriers, are expensive targets.

In all our wars with India, they hide their carrier in Bombay harbor so we can't use our subs to torpedo it.

So in the view of the Indian navy also, a carrier is an expensive target.

I don't even know what stupidity they are suffering from, sailing carriers when they and their enemy (us) share a long land border. :ROFLMAO:

On the other hand, US Navy and Chinese Navy are obsessed with carriers. These are large navies with lots of money and they sail "carrier flotillas". Like the Americans have like 2 attack submarines, a cruiser or two, etc with their carrier. That is a lethal combination.

The Chinese carriers... at least the ones before this one... are next to useless when compared to American super-carriers. However, they have Renhai Class cruisers and Type 52 destroyers escorting those carriers. That is also a lethal combination.

Consider a scenario where USA needs to teach Iran a lesson. And nobody gives you a base to operate from.

Well, two carrier groups can finish Iran with plenty of firepower left over. So, they give you many options. And the side with more options is the one that wins.
 

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That boat looks strangely familiar......

I'm guessing it was designed with stolen American technology no doubt!
Of course it's all stolen from the US/the West. As every thing they make. They even stole the silly Electrolux cats that WE have not been able to make work reliably.

Just remember EVERYthing originated in the Han delusion kingdom. Chopsticks to gunpowder.
 
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