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#1 ·
Hi, everyone. I'm new here.

I have a question for you all. What do you recommend a cancer survivor consider for prepping? I am a recent stage 3 survivor. Unfortunately, there is a high rate of recurrence with the kind of cancer I had. I have changed my entire life to fight it.

I am essentially vegan now and I eat less than the 2000 calories everyone says isn't enough. Most days, I average 1700! Granted, I'm not a large woman. I can't have many oils, meats, sugars, or whole eggs. All of those are associated with a recurrence of the type of cancer I had, so the beans and grains everyone says would be so awful? Yeah... they're my everyday meals! I occasionally have some salmon.

Obviously, if the cancer comes back while there's no medical care, I'd be toast. My question is not so much how to cure cancer (if you all knew, I'd expect you to tell me, though! 😊) It's more what do I need to consider to keep myself in the absolute best shape I can so that it won't come back?

Thank you all.
 
#2 ·
LTS for dried beans is easy and relatively cheap. You can buy a dehydrator and dehydrate the veggies and fruits you like and need. You can also buy them freeze dried. You will have to do research on oils. Avocados have what are usually considered "healthy" oils. Walnuts also. Make a list of the things you can eat and like to eat and sit down with google. Exercise is important also. If you are alone and are forced to stay inside, then loneliness can become a big issue too.
 
#9 ·
Oh, I meant to reply to you, too. Yes, avacado oil I can definitely have, especially for cooking. How much should I have? Sorry, that is such a newbie question.

I actually am pretty fortunate to not be anywhere close to alone. My husband and two young children live with me. My parents live next door. The neighbors are really amazing people, too.
 
#3 ·
Mushroom supplements, specifically reishi and turkey tail have been used to help treat cancer and boosting the immune system. You can google it to learn more, just an idea. Medicinal Mushrooms (PDQ®)–Patient Version So many other benefits to them as well. Of course you’d want to talk to your doctor before taking any.

I take reishi extract everyday and make my own. Sometimes chaga, turkey tail, lions mane, cordyceps extract depending on how I feel. Some supplements are in powdered/capsule form or you can get a double extract tincture (what I use) to get the best benefit. The tincture will have a long shelf life as well.
 
#8 ·
Thanks so much for your responses. They are all so great. I'm still learning this multi-qupte thing, so I don't think I'm responding correctly. Bear with me. 😊


I take reishi extract everyday and make my own. Sometimes chaga, turkey tail, lions mane, cordyceps extract depending on how I feel. Some supplements are in powdered/capsule form or you can get a double extract tincture (what I use) to get the best benefit. The tincture will have a long shelf life as well.
Good idea, especially on the tinctures! I do take mushroom supplements and I actually grow some mushrooms! I could probably see what it it takes to start growing some of the others, too.


Have you looked at prolonged fasting?
I have read about it, but I have not yet been able to do it because I am on metformin as an off-label cancer treatment now. If SHTF, though, I definitely wouldn't have access to that! Thank you. I'm putting that on my list to read more about.

In the lab, capsaicin seems to kill cells linked to more than 40 types of cancer, including the colon, liver, lung, and pancreatic cancers and leukemia. The spicy chemical changes how some genes linked with cancer cells act and even stops them from growing.
Oh, wow! I consider myself kind of well read on cancer topics and I didn't know this one. I definitely will be growing more hot peppers. I do have trouble eating them- not because of the cancer, just because I'm a spicy food wimp! 😆 But I'm pretty determined, so if I put my mind to it, I can eat anything.

Eating those foods you listed helps you enjoy life longer than excellent
I'll be honest, I actually love eating this way. It doesn't feel restricting at all. I feel healthier than I have ever felt and I actually really hate the taste of fatty foods and sugar now. I do enjoy red meat still from time to time. Most of my friends and family have began to eat less process foods, too, so I haven't yet had an issue with going to dinner. The one exception is church potlucks. For those, though, I just bring a huge kale salad and load my plate with fruits and salad. But I definitely see your point! Thank you for the reminder!
 
#5 ·
While it may not be something you could eat , hot chili peppers are thought to kill cancer cells.
In the lab, capsaicin seems to kill cells linked to more than 40 types of cancer, including the colon, liver, lung, and pancreatic cancers and leukemia. The spicy chemical changes how some genes linked with cancer cells act and even stops them from growing.

Health Benefits of Hot Peppers - WebMD
 
#6 ·
Three time survivor here. Never fat, always in shape, eat healthy. Wife was the same. She died from cancer. My best advice is to enjoy yourself. Eating those foods you listed helps you enjoy life longer than excellent. When your life revolves around what you do and is no longer about living and just surviving, you have lost what is important. Don’t lose your best friends because you don’t want to go to their house for dinner because of what they eat. Good friends are rare.

Anyway. Just enjoy your life. It is sweet.
 
#7 ·
For many years I owned a farm called " The Worlds Hottest Peppers" depending on the season I sold seeds, dried peppers , fresh peppers and plants . lots of people bought peppers for the health benefits , and a few people told me that they felt my peppers were keeping them alive. I'm not a doctor so I really don't know.
 
#15 ·
I love it, but I don't know many recipes. I should probably learn! I just started eating seaweed and I actually really like it, but then I read a California cancer risk on a label. I think California is over the top, so I haven't taken it to heart much, but I should probably research that. I need to learn how to properly steam foods, too.

Another thing on my to do list. Thank you for mentioning that!
 
#13 ·
Eliminate as much stress in your life as possible , get enough sleep.
Exercise helps on the stress ...so does retirement (y)
Eating healthier is always better. I didn't go overboard on the diet change
I grow some of my veggies and fruit all organically.
Stay hydrated ...water is my go to.
I'm told I'm in so many prayer groups ...it must help I'm still here.
Having a health advocate...my wife's whole varied career made her the perfect advocate .
Having a good Oncologist and dedicated nurses are so important.
Good Luck
 
#16 ·
Eliminate as much stress in your life as possible , get enough sleep.
Exercise helps on the stress ...so does retirement (y)
Eating healthier is always better. I didn't go overboard on the diet change
I grow some of my veggies and fruit all organically.
Stay hydrated ...water is my go to.
I'm told I'm in so many prayer groups ...it must help I'm still here.
Having a health advocate...my wife's whole varied career made her the perfect advocate .
Having a good Oncologist and dedicated nurses are so important.
Good Luck
I definitely believe in the power of prayer!

I am considering switching my oncologist. I truly love their office and all the folks in it, but I have to drive hours to a large city to see them, and the way things are going, I think it would be better to avoid cities, even for occasional visits. I am concerned that some of our cancer drugs won't even be available in the next few years, but at least a local oncologist would be better than being trapped in a major city.
 
#18 ·
Start taking Turkey Tail mushrooms. Watch the entire video if you can. His mother had stage 4 breast cancer and was cancer free after 8 months. I know a guy who was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and has taken Turkey Tail for a couple years and is now cancer free. Research Turkey Tail mushroom for your well being.

 
#19 ·
So, this is especially fascinating to me. I have always loved mushrooms and I have grown several kinds.

I find this especially interesting, though, because I had one of the worst gene alterations in my tumor. I have been actually taking turkey tail and several other mushrooms, but not at the dosing he talks about. However, I went from having 69% of the nasty alteration to an undetectable level within the time frame I have been being treated. If turkey tail has such a strong oncogene masking ability, I definitely need to take more of it and make sure I have a stockpile. The recurrence rate is 90% for my cancer and stage (it was found late), but this gives me so much hope. Thank you so much for sharing that!
 
#23 ·
I am in the same boat. Had three rounds of throat cancer (never smoked a day in my life) which I had taken care of surgically each time. I have the philosophy, "when in doubt, cut it out". Not every has this luxury based on the type and location of the cancer. My recoveries were rough, but no chemo or radiation was required.

I really think it depends on the type and location of the cancer. The key is to eat healthy for your situation and plan accordingly. Only you know what that is. There is no one size fits all.
 
#24 ·
FWIW: When I was introduced to Pycnogenol in 1995, we were told MAY PREVENT cancers, a company was bringing it in from France. Got on it, stayed on for a year and then found Grape Seed Extract and that['s been about 24 yrs. no cancers and good overall health and 83.
 
#25 ·
I know it is hard, but the advice of those around me who have gone through it is this:

1) Live healthy. If you don't have good health, you'll die too soon regardless. Based on what you posted so far, looks like you're trying to do that.

2) Don't live in fear of it coming back. If you do, all you do is live in fear. My Mom lived months in fear of what turned out to be a benign tumor in her throat (it got huge...). By the time she got the results, she had prepared herself so much that it was the worst, she was in shock over getting other news. For years after, every time something weird happened in any way related to her throat (cough, dry mouth, sore neck, etc etc), she worried it was another tumor.

3) Listen to the doctors, but take control of what works for you. If something is making you feel wrong, challenge it. Ask why, or for an alternative, etc etc. Take command of your personal well being and treatment. Don't let the doctors telling you be the end all be all of it. My Mom did that when she had her scare, and a dear friend did the same after surgery and treatment got rid of his tumor. In both cases, they did not question what they were told. My friend had a bad reaction to a med he was on and waited far longer than he should have to talk to doctor about it. Med was changed and he was ok...

Personally, I would advise this:

Make sure you keep in mind what prepping is about: maintaining a good standard of living when things go bad.

To that end, treat cancer coming back as one of the potential events you prep for. Do it in the same way as people in earthquake regions prep for earthquakes, etc etc. Put in preps (you should know better than most what you would need) in case of a "cancer event" in your future.
 
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