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Can you recommend a CA. legal force multiplier self defense weapon?

17K views 36 replies 30 participants last post by  Sue Doh Myn  
#1 ·
Can you recommend a CA. legal force multiplier self defense weapon?
 
#8 ·
Gun, magazine, bullets - all separate. Just ask the bad guy to wait for ya...

The CA laws only protect the criminals there. I'd move instead of trying to fine something that "fits in".....
 
#9 ·
One way bus ticket.
Only way to be sure...


If you are staying, a lever gun might fit the bill. A 357 or 44mag would do nicely.
 
#10 ·
Get your self a 68cal. air gun, Those things will shoot all kinds of multible types of projectiles from pepper balls to a 98 grian rubber bullet with a glas core. MB68P

Air rifiles are not as regulated as fireams But I here Cal. trying to ban anything from a BB gun up.
 
#12 ·
My recommendation is to use your imagination and think "improvised weapons". You can carry a nice heavy pen on a plane or anywhere, and it can puncture arteries or break bones - if you know how to use it.

Keep an aluminum bat in your car with a box of roofing nails. Get yourself an exumher nail puller - that thing would crack a skull easily. Walk around home depot and think, "If I were in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, what would I grab?"

Get yourself a Dunkin Donuts large coffee cup and fill it with concrete. You now have an undercover brick.
 
#13 ·
My keychain will work as an improvised weapon, 2
full sized caribiners, and climbing anchor webbing,
with my drill rod kubotan on the top that attaches
to my beltloop.. Pepper spray, Kershaw Blur,
Kershaw Groove, Fenix TK11r5.. I don't leave the house
at night without this stuff.. I'm on bicycle and on
foot, I don't drive, and I live in a not so savory
neighborhood.. Carrying a gun here isn't even
a pipedream..
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#18 ·
That improvised weapon might land you in jail. You can not justify for having such an item on your person for other than a makeshift deadly weapon. You use that on anyone and you might be in trouble.

I know a guy that used a Kubotan on someone during a one on one fight. He was charged with a 245 P.C. assault with a deadly weapon. You can not use a weapon against an unarmed person during a fight. It is not justifiable.
 
#14 ·
Wow, I like the keychain.

I used to carry a kubotan on my keyring until I forgot about it when walking into a federal building. I nearly got arrested, and that was pre 9/11 security. The guard got freaked out and threw me out of the building.

I am a big fan of Kershaw assisted opening knives.

I like improvised weapons a lot because I go places daily (my kids preschool, the post office) where any kind of weapon will land you in Jail. To be honest, I live in a pretty safe place (but nothings 100% safe).
 
#19 ·
SO much bad info here.

First, keeping a bat in your car is a no-no. Yes, they can twist the laws unless you can articulate why the bat is in your car other than "self defense." Think ball and glove. :) Improvised weapons are also a big no-no here, especially if they can prove intent (which is why I had to be notified of the laws by the clerk when I picked up a D-cell maglight at the hardware store). You can probably get away with a metal pen, but if you have to use it you may still get charged with using a deadly weapon.

Second, neoprimitive, your kubotan could be construed as a baton/club, and the whole setup may qualify as an improvised nunchuck. That's just possession, on top of what cuchillo states.

Strangely (for this state), pocket knives are legal to carry on your person for "utility" and double nicely for self defense. Pepper spray works too. In your home, or on the property of another with permission, you can generally carry uninhibited.
 
#20 ·
True. Also the length of the blade is not a factor unless carrying on school ground then the length can not be more than 2 1/2 inches. All folding knives can be carried any where on your person and all fixed blades must be carried in a sheath and must be carried openly on a belt.
 
#23 ·
cuchillo *****,
sorry i've been away for a while, life got in the way lately.
Thanks for your advice. Question: If I 86'd the kubotan, is
my carry reasonable? And I never plan on using anything on
any unarmed person, or anyone for that matter
.. But that brings up a question.
*Scenario: I'm walking home from the store at night, in my
not so great neighborhood, and I'm attacked by some big
dude who comes at me at is full fighting mode?
Am I left with only my own fighting skills to defend myself
against someone who may leave my dying in an alley?
I really wish it was easy to understand and have things laid
out very clearly so we knew exactly what out rights are.
Thanks!
 
#27 ·
It all comes down to what type of force is used and what type of threat there is. Most of the time if it is a 1 on 1 fight without weapons then using any type of weapon to defend yourself is not going to be justified. Even if the guy is much bigger than you.

In order to use a weapon the threat of death has to be there. A 1 on 1 fight to most people is not a life threatening situation unless the victim is a very old person or the victim is a woman due to the threat of rape.

Now if there are multiple individuals then you can justify using a weapon because it would be reasonable to fear that your life would be threatened and most would believe that.

So I say carry a knife for multiple opponents and learn fighting skills for that 1 on 1 situation.
 
#24 ·
Cell phone and video camera?

Cell phone to call the cops (thus multiplying force).

Video camera so they can view the evidence of your demise.
 
#28 ·
Keep a pair of locking gate carabiners that fit your fist like a brass knuckle would. They work on a heavy bag, add a lot of force to a light punch and can be truly devastating if used right. Don't modify them into a weapon and they are completely legal to take into sterile areas. (I recently flew thru several airports with such (before I had this thought so not intended) clipped to my bag and water bottle.
Add a short link of chain or 550 cord to your keys and the carabiner also makes a good key whip.

Get a good Kubaton sized flashlight.