I am wondering if water stored in 5 gal food grade jugs can be subjected to UV (putting them outside in the sun for a few days) and then have silver ions or colloids added to it for long term storage? I read that the water must be distilled to make silver colloids, but want to know if it is made correctly can it then be added to the water for anti bacteria benefit? Or, will just filtered water spoil the silver positive effects? I have read about adding a few drops of bleach, but am wondering if adding this as well might make the water last even longer without any issues.
Can silver colloids/ions be added to water for long term storage?
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I put a few drops of colloidal silver in my water when I go camping after it is filtered. It kills over 650 bacteria/viruses and used to be in every doctors bag on home visits in the old days.
I believe the only thing that will neutralize the silver is acidic liquids.
Hope that helps.
I believe the only thing that will neutralize the silver is acidic liquids.
Hope that helps.
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That's a great question.
I make my own colloidal silver, but haven't thought to use it that way, to store water.
http://www.soul-guidance.com/health/colloidalsilver.htm
This site states:
RECOMMENDATION FOR PURIFYING FOOD & WATER
"Water purification: Colloidal Silver is an excellent water purifier. Water stored with one or two tablespoons of Colloidal Silver per 5 litres will be safe and sweet tasting for a very long time. Water containing germ contaminants (not toxic chemicals) can be made drinkable by adding two to three tablespoons of Colloidal Silver per every 5 litres of water. The Silver whilst purifying the water is also beneficial to the body, unlike the commercial tablets containing toxic chlorine bleach!"
Thanks for the question, now I learned something finding the answer!
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I broke this down for smaller amounts
Colloidal silver to purify or store water
2-3 TB CS per 5 liters (1 1/3 gallon) Water
6-9ml CS per 1 liter (quart) Water
½ - 1 tsp (3-5ml approximate) CS per 500 ml (1 pint) water bottle
I make my own colloidal silver, but haven't thought to use it that way, to store water.
http://www.soul-guidance.com/health/colloidalsilver.htm
This site states:
RECOMMENDATION FOR PURIFYING FOOD & WATER
"Water purification: Colloidal Silver is an excellent water purifier. Water stored with one or two tablespoons of Colloidal Silver per 5 litres will be safe and sweet tasting for a very long time. Water containing germ contaminants (not toxic chemicals) can be made drinkable by adding two to three tablespoons of Colloidal Silver per every 5 litres of water. The Silver whilst purifying the water is also beneficial to the body, unlike the commercial tablets containing toxic chlorine bleach!"
Thanks for the question, now I learned something finding the answer!
Edit:
I broke this down for smaller amounts
Colloidal silver to purify or store water
2-3 TB CS per 5 liters (1 1/3 gallon) Water
6-9ml CS per 1 liter (quart) Water
½ - 1 tsp (3-5ml approximate) CS per 500 ml (1 pint) water bottle
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Welcome to the boards!
Thanks Survive:
Now I have a quandry, you information lets me know that colloid silver can not last in plastic containers. I was going to use Walmart 5 gal jugs to store filtered water with some silver in it. It looks now like I will have to go to glass containers. Is there another silver medium that can be stored in water in plastic jugs? Will ionic solutions will not last for the same reasons? ?
Now I have a quandry, you information lets me know that colloid silver can not last in plastic containers. I was going to use Walmart 5 gal jugs to store filtered water with some silver in it. It looks now like I will have to go to glass containers. Is there another silver medium that can be stored in water in plastic jugs? Will ionic solutions will not last for the same reasons? ?
I know many people here swear by colloidal silver but I would avoid its use whenever possible. In August 1999, the FDA banned sellers of colloidal silver from claiming any therapeutic or preventive benefits, noting that it was being marketed for numerous diseases without evidence of safety or effectiveness. Excessive ingestion of colloidal silver can also result in a cosmetic condition called argyria where the skin permanently turns blue or grey.
Although colloidal silver can have an anti-bacterial effect, I have read several studies of colloidal silver solutions marketed on the Internet that showed no such anti-bacterial effects. Just want you to be careful and do your homework when deciding to add this controversial product to your preparation list.
Instead you might want to check out Water Preserver it has the longest shelf life I have seen. The website states it has been tested for 10 years in a scientific program of laboratory sample analysis and field-testing to ensure its effectiveness for 5-year water storage. www.waterpreserver.com/index.htm
One of the cheapest, easiest, and most proven solutions is chemically disinfecting water for long-term storage by treating each gallon with 16 drops of liquid chlorine bleach (Clorox or bleaches, containing 4% to 6% sodium hypochlorite; i.e. unscented bleach). For larger containers, one teaspoon of bleach disinfects five gallons of water and three tablespoons will usually disinfect 55 gallons of water. This level of treatment will kill bacteria and viruses and prevent the growth of microorganisms if stored in a cool, dark place and replaced every six months. (I believe these are the proper ratios but you should verify these figures)
I also just got a new toy that provides another option to water storage. Check this site out www.ecoloblue.com/home-office. I just got the EcoloBlue 30, which is an Atmospheric Water Generator that extracts humidity from air and turns it into pure drinking water. It makes 8 gallons a day (enough to drink & cook anyway) and from I have read in the literature that it has seamless power integration with a solar power kit that the company sells although I assume it is compatible with most PV systems that have enough power.
Although colloidal silver can have an anti-bacterial effect, I have read several studies of colloidal silver solutions marketed on the Internet that showed no such anti-bacterial effects. Just want you to be careful and do your homework when deciding to add this controversial product to your preparation list.
Instead you might want to check out Water Preserver it has the longest shelf life I have seen. The website states it has been tested for 10 years in a scientific program of laboratory sample analysis and field-testing to ensure its effectiveness for 5-year water storage. www.waterpreserver.com/index.htm
One of the cheapest, easiest, and most proven solutions is chemically disinfecting water for long-term storage by treating each gallon with 16 drops of liquid chlorine bleach (Clorox or bleaches, containing 4% to 6% sodium hypochlorite; i.e. unscented bleach). For larger containers, one teaspoon of bleach disinfects five gallons of water and three tablespoons will usually disinfect 55 gallons of water. This level of treatment will kill bacteria and viruses and prevent the growth of microorganisms if stored in a cool, dark place and replaced every six months. (I believe these are the proper ratios but you should verify these figures)
I also just got a new toy that provides another option to water storage. Check this site out www.ecoloblue.com/home-office. I just got the EcoloBlue 30, which is an Atmospheric Water Generator that extracts humidity from air and turns it into pure drinking water. It makes 8 gallons a day (enough to drink & cook anyway) and from I have read in the literature that it has seamless power integration with a solar power kit that the company sells although I assume it is compatible with most PV systems that have enough power.
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silver is completely safe and has harmed less than any otc or perscription drug. there is alot of disinformation and supressed information about it. look up beck protocol
it has to be made with distilled water/0tds/nothing in the water, no minerals, no salts, nothing
make sure its pure silver .999 is ok, .9999 is best, no sterling or any other blend.
make sure nothing but pure silver and the glass touch the water during the making, it will contaminate the water.
made with larger particles you will see them fall out in sunlight, you dont want larger particles, you want as small as possible, i make some that sits out in light and no fallout. inferior produced is perfectly ok for external use, but not recomended for interal
do not store in plastic, only glass in dark containers. storing in plastic will leach plastic into product, if storing water to make with it will have compounds that will end up in product.
no need to use light/uv to keep disinfected, it will kill algae for a while, til particles are used up. dont store water in light conditions, if outside make sure it in dark color storage containers not white
if need quick water disinfection carry a nine volt battery and silver. takes about 3-5 min to disinfect.
if you can brew at constant 1ma or less and no voltage increase, you will make some of the best stuff possible. just like the store bought if not better
clorox is toxic to body dont use,
it has to be made with distilled water/0tds/nothing in the water, no minerals, no salts, nothing
make sure its pure silver .999 is ok, .9999 is best, no sterling or any other blend.
make sure nothing but pure silver and the glass touch the water during the making, it will contaminate the water.
made with larger particles you will see them fall out in sunlight, you dont want larger particles, you want as small as possible, i make some that sits out in light and no fallout. inferior produced is perfectly ok for external use, but not recomended for interal
do not store in plastic, only glass in dark containers. storing in plastic will leach plastic into product, if storing water to make with it will have compounds that will end up in product.
no need to use light/uv to keep disinfected, it will kill algae for a while, til particles are used up. dont store water in light conditions, if outside make sure it in dark color storage containers not white
if need quick water disinfection carry a nine volt battery and silver. takes about 3-5 min to disinfect.
if you can brew at constant 1ma or less and no voltage increase, you will make some of the best stuff possible. just like the store bought if not better
clorox is toxic to body dont use,
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The EcoBlue machine seems like a great idea, especially for damp climates. I think that it not be so effective if you lived in an arid climate, or even in the winter in a cold climate. The drying effect of the heating system already robs that air of valuable moisture. In many homes it is necessary to have a humidifier to put moisture back into the air
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Unfortunately, I don't know that much about using colloidal silver to preserve water. I did find that info and the reasons that they give do make sense. It is unfortunate to find out that plastic is not ideal to use with colloidal silver.
It is however, good to know this on this end of preserving the water, than to find out down the road that it is not as clean as you had hoped.
I suppose that finding glass jugs is a very difficult thing, unless you are into wine or beer making. But still that renders it pretty expensive.
Sorry that I created a quandary for you.
I am always happy to back up my opinions but as I said, I just want you to be careful and do your homework when deciding to add controversial product (i.e. colloidal silver) to your preparation list. I realize that there are many legitimate uses of silver products such as wound dressings containing silver sulfadiazine or silver nano-materials embedded in water filters or sports fabrics such as sleeping bags and hiking socks. I simply believe that now that we have other effective antimicrobials and antibiotics there is no need for the ingestion of colloidal silver preparations, because of their lack of scientifically proven effectiveness and because of the risk of adverse side effects.
To answer survive’s question of making bold statements without data such as “…I have read several studies of colloidal silver solutions marketed on the Internet that showed no such anti-bacterial effects.” I was referencing this statement and sources. “Over-the-counter Ag (I) health food supplements are probably not effective and are frequently mislabeled.” (US Federal Register, 15 Oct. 1996, 16 (200), 53685–53688; FDA Health Fraud Bulletin #19, Colloidal Silver, Oct. 7, 1994; “Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?” Journal of Wound Care. 2004 Apr; 13(4):154-5). More generally, I was referring to the marketing of colloidal silver as an alternative medicine/folk remedy/homeopathic cure-all, which amounts to little more than selling the proverbial snake oil.
Even some pro-silver sites like www.silverfacts.org admit that silver's efficacy is a complicated area of science, “Therefore, there are a great many conflicting claims being made that have very little scientific data to back them up—whether in favor of one silver product over another, and whether touting or denigrating silver in general.”
Once again, you don’t have to accept my sources or conclusions I am just suggesting you do your homework before deciding to use colloidal silver preparations especially internally. Below are a couple additional online sources I have referenced in the past, the top being the one I found most useful. Happy Prepping!
Here is an in depth article that discusses many of the pros and cons of the issue. FEMS Microbiology Reviews Volume 27, Issue 2-3, pages 341–353, June 2003. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/S0168-6445(03)00047-0/full
Here is some information from the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in their integrative medicine section titled, “About Herbs, Botanicals & Other Products.” www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69189.cfm
The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine http://nccam.nih.gov/health/silver/
To answer survive’s question of making bold statements without data such as “…I have read several studies of colloidal silver solutions marketed on the Internet that showed no such anti-bacterial effects.” I was referencing this statement and sources. “Over-the-counter Ag (I) health food supplements are probably not effective and are frequently mislabeled.” (US Federal Register, 15 Oct. 1996, 16 (200), 53685–53688; FDA Health Fraud Bulletin #19, Colloidal Silver, Oct. 7, 1994; “Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?” Journal of Wound Care. 2004 Apr; 13(4):154-5). More generally, I was referring to the marketing of colloidal silver as an alternative medicine/folk remedy/homeopathic cure-all, which amounts to little more than selling the proverbial snake oil.
Even some pro-silver sites like www.silverfacts.org admit that silver's efficacy is a complicated area of science, “Therefore, there are a great many conflicting claims being made that have very little scientific data to back them up—whether in favor of one silver product over another, and whether touting or denigrating silver in general.”
Once again, you don’t have to accept my sources or conclusions I am just suggesting you do your homework before deciding to use colloidal silver preparations especially internally. Below are a couple additional online sources I have referenced in the past, the top being the one I found most useful. Happy Prepping!
Here is an in depth article that discusses many of the pros and cons of the issue. FEMS Microbiology Reviews Volume 27, Issue 2-3, pages 341–353, June 2003. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/S0168-6445(03)00047-0/full
Here is some information from the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in their integrative medicine section titled, “About Herbs, Botanicals & Other Products.” www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69189.cfm
The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine http://nccam.nih.gov/health/silver/
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http://nccam.nih.gov/health/silver/
Key Points
* The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not consider colloidal silver to be safe or effective for treating any disease or condition.
* The FDA and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) have taken action against a number of colloidal silver companies (including some companies that sell products over the Internet) for making drug-like claims about their products.
* Colloidal silver can cause many side effects. One example is argyria, a bluish-gray discoloration of the body, which is not treatable or reversible.
* Tell all your health care providers about any complementary and alternative (CAM) practices you use. Give them a full picture of what you do to manage your health. This will help ensure coordinated and safe care.
thats the worse about silver, no deaths, no harm caused
the only bad thing you have ever heard about it is it can turn you bluishgray if you use inferior product(and the change of color does nothing to harm the immune system, it is larger inferior particles being deposited in the skin and reflecting the light). the people that turned blue either used the wrong kind of water, used salt to increase conductivity in water, used wrong type of silver, or didnt brew it correctly(brew to long with larger particles). and on top of that the people that turned blue still take because they dont get sick.
the fda doesnt want you to heal yourself by yourself. they wont make enough profit.the fda is a revolving door for industry giants and they control and make laws from there to control us. if you can buy an oz of silver and it last your entire life. how would they make money? the ftc works with the fda to silence natural healing. its been proven many times naturalnews.com has lots documented.
silver kills all single cell microorganisms, it doesnt matter what it is, bacteria, fungi, virus, mrsa, staph, pinkeye, earaches, sinus problems, stealth pathogens in the body. the only thing is the silver has to make contact with xxx. if you have lung/respitory infection you need to nebulize to get it into your respitory system
look up patents for silver theres lots of them, 1 by dr beck, he healed a burn victim with silver and mild electric current(small enough you cant feel) the tissue reverted back to its embriotic state and healed with 0 scar tissue.
look up beck protocol
Key Points
* The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not consider colloidal silver to be safe or effective for treating any disease or condition.
* The FDA and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) have taken action against a number of colloidal silver companies (including some companies that sell products over the Internet) for making drug-like claims about their products.
* Colloidal silver can cause many side effects. One example is argyria, a bluish-gray discoloration of the body, which is not treatable or reversible.
* Tell all your health care providers about any complementary and alternative (CAM) practices you use. Give them a full picture of what you do to manage your health. This will help ensure coordinated and safe care.
thats the worse about silver, no deaths, no harm caused
the only bad thing you have ever heard about it is it can turn you bluishgray if you use inferior product(and the change of color does nothing to harm the immune system, it is larger inferior particles being deposited in the skin and reflecting the light). the people that turned blue either used the wrong kind of water, used salt to increase conductivity in water, used wrong type of silver, or didnt brew it correctly(brew to long with larger particles). and on top of that the people that turned blue still take because they dont get sick.
the fda doesnt want you to heal yourself by yourself. they wont make enough profit.the fda is a revolving door for industry giants and they control and make laws from there to control us. if you can buy an oz of silver and it last your entire life. how would they make money? the ftc works with the fda to silence natural healing. its been proven many times naturalnews.com has lots documented.
silver kills all single cell microorganisms, it doesnt matter what it is, bacteria, fungi, virus, mrsa, staph, pinkeye, earaches, sinus problems, stealth pathogens in the body. the only thing is the silver has to make contact with xxx. if you have lung/respitory infection you need to nebulize to get it into your respitory system
look up patents for silver theres lots of them, 1 by dr beck, he healed a burn victim with silver and mild electric current(small enough you cant feel) the tissue reverted back to its embriotic state and healed with 0 scar tissue.
look up beck protocol
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Actually most people born that are near our age have all had colloidal silver... At birth it is put in eyes, ears, nose and mouth by doctors.
Dont believe the practice is still in use but it was when I was born in 1971 and was done to me at birth.
Simple fact is this, I filter water with a Sawyer ceramic filter and put in a few drops and some baking soda. If the filter missed something, the silver gets it, Ive had water from many streams in at least 4 states and never had a single problem.
It has also done some awesome things for me at home. Not a single allergy medicine works for me anymore, but a quick spray of Sovereign Silver up the nose and no more allergy problems. Been allergy free now for 4 months or so and I cant even begin to tell you how much medicine I was taking and NONE of it helped.
Dont believe the practice is still in use but it was when I was born in 1971 and was done to me at birth.
Simple fact is this, I filter water with a Sawyer ceramic filter and put in a few drops and some baking soda. If the filter missed something, the silver gets it, Ive had water from many streams in at least 4 states and never had a single problem.
It has also done some awesome things for me at home. Not a single allergy medicine works for me anymore, but a quick spray of Sovereign Silver up the nose and no more allergy problems. Been allergy free now for 4 months or so and I cant even begin to tell you how much medicine I was taking and NONE of it helped.
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actually its silver nitrate and its not as safe or good as colloidal silver. the nurses told me they will send me to jail if i dont put in my babys eyes. the silver nitrate drops are put in the eyes of a baby vaginally birthed baby because there is a minute chance the baby can go blind due to an infection. its a bs practice in my eyes. especially if a csection occured because the chance of the infection is not there.
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