Nice set up. I’m pretty sure I need one of those rifles. Or maybe the new S&W folding carbine.
Camping carbine
After 30 years I figure my AR-7 camping carbine is not enough gun. I have carried that carbine for 100,000 of miles just thrown in a backpack nobody knowing it was there. Now I have upgraded to the Sub2000 for a camping carbine. It took me over a month to find the proper sling pack to carry the carbine. I glued sections of industral carpet inside to stiffen the sling pack. The pocket on the outside of the sling pack will carry 2 mags in a belt holder and the mess pockets on the side work good to carry water bottles.
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I use a sling. A gun in a backpack is like no gun at all. Just sayin'.
Now, if you are clairvoyant, stop and get it it out a few minutes before you are going to need it, then, yeah, go for it.
Al
Now, if you are clairvoyant, stop and get it it out a few minutes before you are going to need it, then, yeah, go for it.
Al
I don’t know. Having a rifle in an easy to manage bag seems good to me. Not as quick to deploy as a pistol in a holster, but I bet if you practiced you could get it running in, what, maybe 10 seconds?I use a sling. A gun in a backpack is like no gun at all. Just sayin'.
Now, if you are clairvoyant, stop and get it it out a few minutes before you are going to need it, then, yeah, go for it.
Al
I get your point, but why criticize his choice? Atleast he has it with in reach where most leave them at home doing no good at all. The more people who exercise their rights daily in any lawful manor the better IMOI use a sling. A gun in a backpack is like no gun at all. Just sayin'.
Now, if you are clairvoyant, stop and get it it out a few minutes before you are going to need it, then, yeah, go for it.
Al
You should figure out a way to secure a good knife inside.After 30 years I figure my AR-7 camping carbine is not enough gun. I have carried that carbine for 100,000 of miles just thrown in a backpack nobody knowing it was there. Now I have upgraded to the Sub2000 for a camping carbine. It took me over a month to find the proper sling pack to carry the carbine. I glued sections of industral carpet inside to stiffen the sling pack. The pocket on the outside of the sling pack will carry 2 mags in a belt holder and the mess pockets on the side work good to carry water bottles. View attachment 514979 View attachment 514979
Hey, if you're comfortable with the setup, by all means, use it. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it if, the user wants to go that route.
When I hiked around Wyoming, my concern was Bears and Lions. A pistol might be quick to deploy but, a rifle would pay big dividends.
Here in Louisiana a Sow with babies would be the threat. Like Bears and Lions, they're fast.
Al
p.s. When did constructive criticism become a bad thing? If nobody pointed out the possible shortcomings, then why post it at all?
When I hiked around Wyoming, my concern was Bears and Lions. A pistol might be quick to deploy but, a rifle would pay big dividends.
Here in Louisiana a Sow with babies would be the threat. Like Bears and Lions, they're fast.
Al
p.s. When did constructive criticism become a bad thing? If nobody pointed out the possible shortcomings, then why post it at all?
9mm wouldnt be anyone's first choice in Bear/lion country for sure.. but we dont all camp in Bear/lion country.. And constructive criticism isnt a bad thing either.. Just put things in perspective, the OP is doing a good thing and should be encouraged to continue doing so. The post above about adding a knife is a excellent observation.Hey, if you're comfortable with the setup, by all means, use it. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it if, the user wants to go that route.
When I hiked around Wyoming, my concern was Bears and Lions. A pistol might be quick to deploy but, a rifle would pay big dividends.
Here in Louisiana a Sow with babies would be the threat. Like Bears and Lions, they're fast.
Al
p.s. When did constructive criticism become a bad thing? If nobody pointed out the possible shortcomings, then why post it at all
IF I mistook the intent of you post well thats on me I guess. but I for one want to encourage more people to exercise this right it benefits us all in the long run
Yeah, if I was somewhere an animal might grab me or stomp on my rib cage, I wouldn’t want my rifle in a pack. Wouldn’t want it to be 9mm either.
But if I was going fishing around lots of people, or hiking around in a state park, I wouldn’t mind having a bag like that. Even if I was just going to get fuel in my truck, or drop my female off at the doctor, I could throw the bag in the back seat and be mighty pleased with myself.
But if I was going fishing around lots of people, or hiking around in a state park, I wouldn’t mind having a bag like that. Even if I was just going to get fuel in my truck, or drop my female off at the doctor, I could throw the bag in the back seat and be mighty pleased with myself.
Mostly I’m just convincing myself to buy one.
I was keeping away from the caliber choice. If I were expecting to use it, I would want it in a rifle caliber. That's why, in my second post I said, "A rifle would pay big dividends".9mm wouldnt be anyone's first choice in Bear/lion country for sure.. but we dont all camp in Bear/lion country.. And constructive criticism isnt a bad thing either.. Just put things in perspective, the OP is doing a good thing and should be encouraged to continue doing so. The post above about adding a knife is a excellent observation.
IF I mistook the intent of you post well thats on me I guess. but I for one want to encourage more people to exercise this right it benefits us all in the long run
Al
I have tried several times to figure out how to carry a semi auto rifle in my pack, and quickly pull it out and use it. Trouble is I dont want to take off the pack, just reach around and pull the gun out of a scabbard. Still looking for a solution.
Perhaps OP also carries a concealed pistol. He never said one way or another.
I wonder if a Wyoming concealed carry permit includes rifles. I can carry concealed without a permit, but I don’t know about carrying a rifle.
I need to hurry up and order one, before Joe and the media catch on. “These guns will fit in a second grader’s My Little Pony lunch box! Nobody should have them! They’re only for blowing out lungs!”
I need to hurry up and order one, before Joe and the media catch on. “These guns will fit in a second grader’s My Little Pony lunch box! Nobody should have them! They’re only for blowing out lungs!”
I've toyed with the idea of taking my Caltech 40 backpacking instead of my rugar 44 mag. Thinking there is not a lot of weight difference, more accurate, 14 rounds instead of 6, and because of barrel length it's on par with a 41 mag and better accuracy - good enough for anything in this state.
I don’t know amigo, “40 Guy” just doesn’t sound right.I've toyed with the idea of taking my Caltech 40 backpacking instead of my rugar 44 mag. Thinking there is not a lot of weight difference, more accurate, 14 rounds instead of 6, and because of barrel length it's on par with a 41 mag and better accuracy - good enough for anything in this state.
Your last statement is key.I've toyed with the idea of taking my Caltech 40 backpacking instead of my rugar 44 mag. Thinking there is not a lot of weight difference, more accurate, 14 rounds instead of 6, and because of barrel length it's on par with a 41 mag and better accuracy - good enough for anything in this state.
Just how big a gun do you need? How fast are you likely to need it?
Many here are most worried about protection against people. Some of us in the south and midwest are also worried about feral hogs, black bears, and panthers. Some members are worried about much bigger and nastier animals.
I consider my 40 cal pistols about equal to a 4" revolver in 357 mag, which is enough for critters and meth heads in my area. A carbine in 7.62x39 is also enough gun at close range.
If I had to deal with one of the bigger bears, I would prefer my 5.5" Redhawk in 44 mag, a 12 ga shotgun loaded with slugs, or a rifle in at least 308 win. In fact, I would much prefer my Ruger 77 chambered in 338 win.
I remember bow hunting one year in California, and finding fresh bear tracks in the soft dirt of a motorcycle trail. All I had with me was a 70 lb longbow, due to Cali hunting regs. Never found the bear, but it did put some zip into the morning.
Those are nice guns, I own one and they are quick to deploy. I had mine Cerakoted as I found it is fairly quick to develop rust. YMMV
There are a few mfgs making what I term a "PDW" (personal defense weapon). Called a "Pistol", but with a longer barrel and often a "brace". In a pistol caliber (like 9mm), it is a large pistol/brace. Sig, Extar, Ruger and others manufacture these. Typically with a 6-8" barrel. Regardless of the "brace rule" current unknowns...a superb reason for owning one was the ability to have it loaded in a vehicle/bag as it was classified as a "pistol". Meaning any CCW/CPL/CWP would cover it.I wonder if a Wyoming concealed carry permit includes rifles. I can carry concealed without a permit, but I don’t know about carrying a rifle.
I need to hurry up and order one, before Joe and the media catch on. “These guns will fit in a second grader’s My Little Pony lunch box! Nobody should have them! They’re only for blowing out lungs!”
Depending on the court cases upcoming, either it will remain a "pistol" or be morphed into an SBR. One advantage (to me) of the pistol calibers (9mm etc) is the clear intent to be a "pistol". When configuring a PDW in .223, 300 Blackout, etc, then the "rifle/pistol" lines become blurred and the SBR argument is stronger. Without getting too far into the weeds...the restrictions on an SBR are vastly different than a "pistol", especially when considering the CCW/CPL/CWL legalities, and the transporting of such.
So regarding the OP...these small folding rifles are useful "tools" in a tool box, however, carrying them "loaded" may have legal issues as it is a "rifle". The PDW "pistols" are a different category and as such can be transported loaded, ready for an emergency rescue operation.
At least currently...
Just my .02
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