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But I don't want to be nice...

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#1 ·
I just got a phone call from the soon to be EX of the seller of my new property (she was also on the documents and has gotten her share of the money from the sale according to whatever the court ordered).

Apparently, my agent gave their college age son my phone number when he was trying to get a hold of the seller to see when he was going to be out because he HAD said it would be two weeks ago instead of the full 30 days that were allowed (which end at midnight this Friday). The seller called last night to confirm that he would be gone except for the bus which he hoped would be towed away by then (dang - I was going to turn it into a chicken coop if he left it!) and that anything else left in the house I could have. He apologized and said he was the only one moving stuff out of the two dwellings and didn't realize how much junk he had accumulated. Okay... annoyed but contractually, he did have the full amount of time, finally could make my plans, all is good.

Guess what? The ex says that all of HER stuff is still in the trailer and she wants it but she isn't allowed to go in there as long as he is still there and her son doesn't have time to move it all out. She wants all weekend to come get her items. She first asked for the new pedestal washer/dryer and the new frig - nope, I negotiated those into the sales contract. Now, she is saying her shoes, clothes, makeup (she left a YEAR ago) and her bedroom suite and more furniture is all there and she wants it. I know there is also two china cabinets, two leather couches, and some other furniture staying as well.

So... here is my dilemma... I WANT to be nice (stop laughing - really, I can be a nice person) and will willing give her the clothes, family photos (ok - snarky just so you don't think I am TOO nice - I saw the family, I don't want them hanging on my wall :D:), her makeup, and personal items like that. She can even have the mattress (ewww... sleeping one someone else's skin cells - GROSS) BUT...

Should I give her the bedroom suite, china cabinets, big screen, and other furniture? It obviously was NOT part of the divorce settlement because she would have gotten it before now. If it is junky, then okay, I don't mind but if I start letting her take some, then how do I draw the line at others saying... um.. that is trashy so yes, that is nice, leave it...

What would you do? I told her to call me on Saturday and we would make arrangement for her to get her personal items... I just know though that she is going to ask for more...

ps... I don't want to have to completely refurnish the trailer. I have a budget that I want to use to fix up the crack shack and property, not spend on furnishing for the trailer - besides new beds... those are a must!
 
#4 ·
Actually, I have owned it for 30 days as of tomorrow. TN law lets the seller stay on the property AFTER they get the money for 30 - 90 days (based on contractual negotiations) which is the stupidest thing I have ever heard....

But.... true... and I have often wondered what would happen if it burned down or if I show up on Friday and there is damage that was not there when I signed the papers - do I get to sue them or does my insurance have to pay for it... stupid law.
 
#8 ·
Are you legally obligated to allow her to return the property she has abandoned? Since she left it behind when she left, it is reasonable to assume it has been abandoned. I doubt there are any legal, or perhaps even moral, obligations. the chance of her doing damage or removing items she is not entitled to are quite high and not worth hit.

The suggestion about putting what you believe to be her stuff on the cub for her to pick up is good and reasonable. It is probably more than you need to do.

I do not think allowing her unsupervised access, heck, even supervised, is a good idea.

She has already abandoned her property, too late is too late.
 
#10 ·
Normally in a divorce the division of property is spelled out by the Court. Given she's already asked for items that aren't hers, you might suggest she provide a copy of the paperwork noting what property she's entitled to. If she gets snarky and doesn't appreciate that you're trying to be nice, require the list and request it come from her attorney. If you still insist on being nice, I'd suggest you have someone with you when you meet with her, to act as both a witness and a "calming influence" if needed. You might also want to document (be it video or pics) and inventory (written list) what items she takes and have her sign for them.
 
#14 ·
My divorce attorney once said.... no good deed ever goes unpunished. Took me a good long while to see the wisdom in that statement. Not that I don't try to be nice, or do good things once in a while, I'm just more selective when I do. If she was entitled to the property, she would have had the proper documentation to provide with the request. Since its not your issue, then staying out of it might be the best way to keep yourself out of the line of fire.
 
#16 ·
You bought property. Unless its in the contract that you get the furnishings they aren't yours. Put everything that isn't nailed down by the curb and tell her to come get it. If she doesn't show up by the time the trash man comes then take whatever you want back inside and let the trash man have the rest. If she doesn't show up tell her it all went to the dump and she can look there for her things.
 
#19 ·
Yeah... that makeup thing and the fact that she said "I don't know what everyone told you about me"... actually, no one said anything - well, to be honest, her ex didn't say anything, my agent, being a good gossip, said she left him for a man with more money.

I talked to my Mom who is the nicest person in the world - she said pack up the clothes and shoes and family pictures because you want to be nice BUT THAT IS IT. And, make the agent deal with her since he gave her your phone number.

My husband is extremely mad to put it nicely. Glad we went out to dinner after my daughter's recital tonight so he had to at least keep it down. He says no, she can't even have her family photos.

So... gonna get up there, have the locksmith meet me on Saturday morning, change all the locks, and tell her I can't meet up with her because I will be at my friend's house an hour away. Go through all the stuff left behind, pack up her clothes, and junk, and then let her pick it up at the agent's office after I leave town.

Everything ya'll have said is true - if it was hers, she would have gotten it as part of the divorce settlement. But, that being said, I don't want to steal the family photos. Mom is actually mad at me because she said I end up being too nice which in some things like this, I feel sorry for people and I shouldn't.

I feel rather naive and stupid - I am the only one who actually thought I should let her in... and that includes my Saintly Mother's opinion too to lock her out. Thanks for setting me straight!
 
#20 ·
Dont let her on the property. An X is an X is an X. Its been a year, there may be something else in there she wants, but she might think of it later and call again. This could go on and on. Pile what you dont want, that she does want, on the curb. Give the rest of what you dont want to Charity.
 
#21 ·
make sure your self a couple game cameras and set em' up .... I'm betting when you leave town.. she'll come for her stuff...
 
#22 ·
Who wants year-old makeup? Especially if she now "married up" and can afford new makeup? Think about it. That's just an excuse to gain access to the house because there is something in there that she wants that prolly her ex doesn't even know exists and she doesn't want him to know about it. I'd ask that really nice cop you met during your previous visit to have him or someone else there during her visit.

If you don't allow her access, she may want to "visit" your house while you aren't there, causing more problems.

If you allow her supervised access, you need to remind her (or have the cop do it) that she cannot come around anymore and give her that "mom look" straight in the eye when you say it. You know what I mean.
 
#24 ·
And I just got my new glock yesterday! I wish I was taking the dogs up with me... I would feel better at night but they don't fit in the car... they won't come up until after Memorial Day when I exchange the convertible for the truck.. and I am going to call my new deputy friend Peaches... great idea. He wanted to know when we moved in anyways because they said they would watch out for me and the girls and also the property when I am not there... thanks for reminding me to do that!
 
#28 ·
You know Staxx, I really am "witchy" in real life - but in a fun way :D:. I don't let people take advantage of me when it comes to work or buying stuff (shoot - I got the property for $50k off when all was said and done - almost a third of list AND the fancy appliances she wants back) and if you mess with my family or friends, I will cut you - ok, that was a bit of an exaggeration but I can make your life a living hell..

BUT - when it comes to this type of thing, I am truly a wuss. I can't help it... it will be my downfall. They still make fun of me... in college, I saw a woman on the side of the road (back before cell phones) as I was on my way to an appt. She was still there when I came back by half an hour later so of course I stopped to see if she was ok. Stupid old woman was a dang AMWAY saleswoman, eating her lunch on the side of the road. I was too nice to walk away, listened to her sales pitch AND bought vitamins that I couldn't afford! My Mom reimbursed me for them so I could eat food that month... and brought that same story up when I called her to tell her about this last night... and it has only been around 20 yrs or so since that happened!!
 
#30 ·
I think the best approach would be to do only whats legally required of you. Returning anything that's important family wise would be good to do tough. On your schedule. Not hers. Besides, don't most states let you get your belongings regardless of a restraining order as long as you bring a cop?
 
#34 ·
If a Realtor gave her your number I would complain to the broker as soon as possible.

This has a bad smell to it and seems to be some kind of set up that will not be good for you. As another poster said "slip and fall".

I would NOT pack her stuff and would simply tell her "none of the stuff you are talking about is there".

Be very careful telling her WHEN you will be and will NOT be there.