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Bush was of course lame again and again and again.
Schumer has just said we will have to stay past recess ,poor children I hope they don't suffer.
Schumer just said on the senate floor that McCain was just a fly in the ointmentand he needs to quit putting fire on the flames.
He said Bush needs to tell McCain leave town.
 

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he didnt say much of anything. sounds to me like if congress cant accept his bailout he will bypass them and implement it anyways, afterall he is "the decider"
 

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he didnt say much of anything. sounds to me like if congress cant accept his bailout he will bypass them and implement it anyways, afterall he is "the decider"
I agree,if its not done today, they will get it done over the weekend and announce it sunday night/early monday to keep the stock market from crashing and the bank runs from starting.
 

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the vast majority of americans do not want this bailout...plain and simple...that is why it's not happening..........
 

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the vast majority of americans do not want this bailout...plain and simple...that is why it's not happening..........
Good ol' Blue. :rolleyes: The government ALWAYS does what the American people want.......how silly of us to believe otherwise. :sleep:

Ron Paul on the bailout:
“They want dictatorship, they want to pass all the penalties and suffering on to the average person on Main Street,” adding, “We will have a depression or recession, it’s locked in place due to previous Federal Reserve actions.”

“When they say that if we don’t do exactly as they say and turn over more of our money and more of our liberties and exempt themselves from any court in the whole nation, they’re trying to intimidate us and lead us into doing the wrong thing,” said Paul.


The Congressman added that serious problems would arise if nothing was done to address the problem, but that more serious consequences would follow should the bailout be passed.


Paul warned that the only question was whether the meltdown would last one year or ten years and how much liberty would be lost in that time frame.


“It looks like from I see in Congress, that they’re opting for a decade plus of depression rather than saying let’s correct our ways, let’s balance the budget, let’s bring our troops home,” said Paul, adding that the same course of printing money would continue - prolonging the agony and preventing a necessary correction.


Asked if civil unrest was a possibility in the midst of an economic depression, referencing a recent Army Times report concerning the use of active duty military being brought back from Iraq for “Homeland patrols” and “crowd control,” Paul questioned, “Are we going to have martial law or are we going to have more freedoms? The more problems that we have, the more likely it is that we’re going to have martial law, so I do think they anticipate and they plan for these things.”

Asked if criminal investigations and prosecutions of individuals on Wall Street should commence, Paul agreed but said that the main target of criminal inquiry should be the Federal Reserve board itself because, “That’s where the fraud is.”

“They want to be lawless, they don’t want to be held accountable,” he added.


Paul said that grand juries should be convened to take on prosecutions rather than the FBI becoming involved, stating, “We have proper authority with that and experience with it and the Enron case is a good example.”

The Congressman said that Greenspan and Bernanke should be criminally charged but that such an effort would be largely symbolic. “Morally speaking, they’re the culprits,” said Paul.


Asked what his solution to the crisis would be, Paul said, “I think the most important thing to do is to send the message that we’re going to quit living beyond our means and the president can set the standard for that and he has the most control under the Constitution on foreign policy - he can say no more wars, we’re done with the wars, we’re not going to take on the Russians, we’re not going to take on people in Venezuela, we’re going to start talking to the Cubans and bring our troops home and save hundreds of billions of dollars - that would send a powerful message that the dollar would respond to and oil prices would come down.”

Paul said that Americans had to accept a new idea of government that harked back to what the founders envisaged and that the welfare state would have to unravel along with aspirations of building a geopolitical empire.


“In the meantime the policy ought to be - shrink the size of government, decrease regulation, work towards sound money, remove the authority of the Fed to create money out of thin air and get tax reduction,” stated the Congressman. Paul added that eliminating the income tax would mean everybody becoming a lot richer and more money would be ploughed into the economy.


“It will not solve the problem, it just delays the inevitable,” said Paul of the bailout, adding that he expects the bill to pass in a move that would, “Defy the American people.”

“I think they get to the point where they think they’re like God and can control everything and they don’t realize that the market really is more powerful than all the bankers and all the politicians….Ultimately the underground economy is the real economy and I think they could over step themselves and hopefully we could come out with a better world afterwards,” concluded the Congressman.
 

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The media is really pushing for this bailout.
They just now said McCain will leave town to go to the debate.
 

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WooHoo! A debate. . .I can't wait. Two candidates who have already made their positions known standing on a stage reading their talking points from teleprompters or note cards. Gee, I should really tune in I might hear something new.
 

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Bush was of course lame again and again and again.
Schumer has just said we will have to stay past recess ,poor children I hope they don't suffer.
Schumer just said on the senate floor that McCain was just a fly in the ointmentand he needs to quit putting fire on the flames.
He said Bush needs to tell McCain leave town.
What distraction is McCain causing, other than dumb noise from Democrats advancing an Election?

McCain hasn't commented on anything.

They are using him a pawn in advancing their own agenda. He is doing the job he currently HOLDS rather than focusing on trying to get a JOB.

McCain's record can't be argued that he has participated as an ACTIVE Senator. Obama can't claim that. He has more time logged on a campaign trail.

Don't fall into the rhetoric.
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WooHoo! A debate. . .I can't wait. Two candidates who have already made their positions known standing on a stage reading their talking points from teleprompters or note cards. Gee, I should really tune in I might hear something new.
SO TRUE,,
Did you catch Obama, His teleprompter was obviously malfunctioning and he couldn't even complete the thought. lol
MINDLESS Performer.

I can't wait for the debates. I just wonder if it is just going to be canned answers. There has been a total lack of sincerity of concern over Leadership and Wisdom to guide the country by both candidates.
 

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SO TRUE,,
Did you catch Obama, His teleprompter was obviously malfunctioning and he couldn't even complete the thought. lol
MINDLESS Performer.

I can't wait for the debates. I just wonder if it is just going to be canned answers. There has been a total lack of sincerity of concern over Leadership and Wisdom to guide the country by both candidates.

He's a very gifted speech giver. I think that's obvious by the fact that he said NO to the town hall meetings McCain wanted. The only thing I disagree with you about is that I really don't want to see the debates. Maybe you can watch and report back here! :D:
 

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SO TRUE,,
Did you catch Obama, His teleprompter was obviously malfunctioning and he couldn't even complete the thought. lol
MINDLESS Performer.

I can't wait for the debates. I just wonder if it is just going to be canned answers. There has been a total lack of sincerity of concern over Leadership and Wisdom to guide the country by both candidates.


maybe they are aware that there wont actually be an election.
 
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