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as most of the old guys here know, me and my uncle like to tinker around with guns. but we have never "built" our own. so i guess i need some advice? i have a list of parts and the prices. can you guys tell me if they are junk **** parts? do they work together?

1.BUSHMASTER AR-15 LOWER RECEIVER WITH M4 6 POSITION STOCK http://dynamicarmament.com/items/lo...th-m4-6-position-stock-bmalowtelep-detail.htm

2.16" CAR AR-15 Upper Half with ER Shaw Barrel http://www.galatiinternational.com/..._Code=MDB201&Category_Code=roundtriggerguards

3.King Arms Charging Handle with M84 Big Latch for M4 series (Type D) http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-charging-handle-type-d.html

4.CAA M4 2 Sided Rail System
http://www.lapolicegear.com/caam42sirasy.html

5.3-9X40 MM ILLUMINATED SCOPE http://www.combathunting.com/COMPACT_RIFLE_SCOPES-3_9x42_mm_Illuminated_Scope_AR15_M16_M4.html


LOOKS GOOD TO ME BUT WHAT DO I KNOW? THANKS
 

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as most of the old guys here know, me and my uncle like to tinker around with guns. but we have never "built" our own. so i guess i need some advice? i have a list of parts and the prices. can you guys tell me if they are junk **** parts? do they work together?

1.BUSHMASTER AR-15 LOWER RECEIVER WITH M4 6 POSITION STOCK http://dynamicarmament.com/items/lo...th-m4-6-position-stock-bmalowtelep-detail.htm

2.16" CAR AR-15 Upper Half with ER Shaw Barrel http://www.galatiinternational.com/..._Code=MDB201&Category_Code=roundtriggerguards

3.King Arms Charging Handle with M84 Big Latch for M4 series (Type D) http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-charging-handle-type-d.html

4.CAA M4 2 Sided Rail System
http://www.lapolicegear.com/caam42sirasy.html

5.3-9X40 MM ILLUMINATED SCOPE http://www.combathunting.com/COMPACT_RIFLE_SCOPES-3_9x42_mm_Illuminated_Scope_AR15_M16_M4.html


LOOKS GOOD TO ME BUT WHAT DO I KNOW? THANKS

I must ask, Are youguy's on a budget???:confused:
Reason I ask is there are way better parts, accessories, components out there.
 

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yeah, we are trying to keep it at or under $1000. if you know something better or as good for less please share.
 

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Here's a much better build I through together for you. It does come in a little higher than yours but the build quality will be 100 times better. RRA is known for there quality AR rifles and parts. The Millet DMS-1 is the same scope I have on one of my AR's and for the money is a terrific 1-4 power scope. Check out the items and let us know what you think.

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm

Upper Reciever - part # AR0052BA SY $140.00
Charging Handle w/m84 Latch - part # AR0026GBGA SY $90.00
Complete Bolt Carrier w/Bolt - part # AR0032AGRP $130.00
Chrome Moly Barrel w/ Front Sight post part # AR02ASY $190.00
A2 Flash Hider .223 part # AR0001AD $6.50
Crush Washer part # AR00026 $2.75
Complete Lower Half/ Standard Trigger/
6-Position CAR Stock part # AR0940X $300.0

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=180

M4 Upgrade Kit part # M4UPGRADEKIT $274.95
includes - Railed Handguard/ Rear Flip up
Sight/ End Plate Adapter/ 1-Point Sling


http://www.centuriontactical.com/millet-dms-1-4x24.htm
http://www.centuriontactical.com/scope-rings-burris-xtr-1.htm

Total : $1363.20
 

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I built mine for $600 with DPMS parts, DSC 5.56 M4 barrel (a mil contractor btw), Aero Precision Lower... Same parts as the big name jokers, same quality. Mil-Spec (in my case anyway) is Mil-Spec. Gun Snobery doesn't make the rifle work better. As you said, you wanted an M4. If you wanted a 600 yard tack driver, I'd say go with other (more expensive) parts. But you wanted an M4, so don't waste the money.

On a side note. I'd stick with open sights, red dot, open colminating(sp), or ACOG sights with the CARbine. Scopes can be a hindrance in a short range firefight. I guess it depends on what you plan on using it for.
 

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1st question that needs to be asked and answered is:
What is the purpose of the carbine/rifle?

Bushmaster is overpriced for the quality. RRA isn't bad, but again a little pricey.
The charging handle you linked is an airsoft item, wont work in a real rifle.
Stag, DPMS, and Double Star all make nice entry level ARs at a reasonable price.
For $600 you are NOT getting the same parts/quality as SOME of the higher priced options. But you can build a reliable rifle.
If you have a $1000 budget skip the cheep glass. Get iron sights, some magazines and ammo and build a simple straight forward carbine without any add ons. Learn to use it, learn what you like and what you don't. Don't start slapping parts on it for no reason. Make sure they have a purpose.

If this is something you intend for HD/SD or that your going to put 500rds a weekend through get some higher quality parts.
BCM for the bolt carrier group.
BCM, CMMG, CDD, LMT, etc for the upper.
Stripped lower and stock doesn't really matter.
LPK from a well known company.

If this is going to be just something to have, go with the DPMS/Stag/DS

You can get into one of those for 700 and then spend all the rest on mags and ammo
 

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lol that shows how much i know! i let some ass in the chat room trick me with a airsoft charging handle!!!
 

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3.King Arms Charging Handle with M84 Big Latch for M4 series (Type D) http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-charging-handle-type-d.html
I could dump you a bunch of links and other stuff (I've built about 75 or so M4 and AR rifles), but I think it would be better for you to check out the build it yourself section at AR15.com. One of the reasons for this is the product listed above. That's a charging handle for an Airsoft gun, not an actual AR15, and it wouldn't work in an AR15.

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yeah lol i just fonf that out, some big commedian in the chat room agve me that link! it would have blown up in my face!?!?!
nope, it wouldn't even fit into an AR upper. The length is too short, it's too wide on the end...any number of other problems that it wouldn't fit, however, you may have spent some money you didn't need to (unless you wanted to get into airsoft :)).

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Regarding the charging handle latch, (for those who dont know, its the spring reinforced latch that keeps the charging handle [what cocks the bolt back initially] in place from whacking the user in the nose when the rifle is reared to the face to make an aimed shot) I recommend using the standard size. If its bigger, it can dig into your back if you sling it on your shoulder or carry it "Rambo" style and keep both of your hands free. It looks nice, but you only cock that gun once, drop your mag and reload and hit your bolt release...you will never touch that handle in combat. It you wont get any more money out of your investment if you sell it to someone who knows what they're buying. Obviously, your mileage my vary.
 

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Lose the "carry handle" there use less get a flat top upper and i recomend a decent optic like the m68 red dot reflex sight. you can shoot acurattly to 350 meters with one. or an ACOG. there 4x and have cross hairs and you can compasate for elevation.
He didn't list a carry handle...that's the charging handle he listed, and as I pointed out earlier in the thread, that was a charging handle for an airsoft rifle, not an actual AR. I would also always recommend Backup Iron Sights "BUIS" no matter what red-dot or other sight you have on the weapon. I have an Aimpoint compM3 on my rifle and a compM4 on my wifes. Both rifles also have Matech BUIS' for the rear and the standard sight post/gas block for the front. With an ACOG, I would recommend getting quick release mounts for it so that you can remove it quickly if it fails/breaks/fogs up (you can't target through an ACOG with BUIS' since they magnify) and switch to your BUIS'. The aimpoint sights are non-magnifying so you don't necessarily need quick release mounts, however, keep in mind that even a non-magnifying sight which allows you to sight through using your BUIS' can fog up or get cracked and therefore it's a good idea to ensure that you can remove it somewhat quickly in order to use your BUIS' in the event that happens. The upside to the ACOGs is that they don't require batteries whereas the aimpoint and eotechs do.

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Nice catch there winter... I read too fast! Great recomendation with the Iron sight. I have one on my m4. there VERY handy.
 
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