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Many survivalist have a plan for getting out of sticky situation. Many of those plans include some sort of vehicle including cars, trucks, boats, Rvs or motorcycles. Some survivalists ensure there everyday cehixles contain some sort of emergency kits or get home bags. Some of us own vehicle that we reserve for survival situations. What can you tell everyone about you transportation and how it relates to your survival plans.

1. Has this though affected a recent new vehicle purchase?

2. What have you done to your existin everyday vehicle to prepare?

3. What type of vehicle do you own or recommend to be used soley in a survival situation?
 

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This is a subject easily searched for. I'm kinda surprised you haven't been slammed by others telling you the same. That's what normally happens. It's not that I mind sharing about my plans, I just see this a lot where a new person to the forum asks a question that could easily be searched for.

In the spirit of sharing...

Most of my plans are for bugging in. I'm in a quiet little rural town and don't expect anything other than a fire or tornado to make us leave. We are close to a highway, but I am too stubborn to be pushed out by any passing raiders unless it is a large group. I am a disabled vet and walk with a cane if I have to go more than 100 yards or so. Bugging out on foot is not an option for me, but I do have a daily driver truck that can serve as a BOV in case we are forced out of our home.

Like you stated in the OP, "this thought affected" my last vehicle purchase selected. Beeing as it is my daily driver, your second point of doing something to my "existing everyday vehicle" also is in effect. I selected, then modified my truck based on it's capabilities both as a daily driver, and the possible need to use it in an emergency. I wanted the capability of a large payload, and great off road ability. If we have to leave, I have a 1999 Ford F-250 Super Duty crew cab 4x4 diesel. It can carry the family, our dogs and supplies all at once, and as long as it can fit between the trees, it will get me across very rough terrain. I have modified it for off road travel. I even enjoy off roading with it as a hobby. My truck has a camper shell to keep everything in the bed out of the weather. It has been lifted with a better suspension, and fitted with larger off road tires, improved gearing, and ARB air lockers. It will have a winch by spring.

I am not too worried about an EMP attack as I couldn't find a vehicle I liked to modify at the time I was ready to buy one. I just figure you can't be ready for everything, so I try to be ready for what I can be. Your third point of what I recommend is only to get what you need to fit your situation. My situation required the ability to carry 4 people, 3 dogs, and as much supplies as we could, so a smaller vehicle, like a Jeep, would not have worked for us.

It may not be what other people need, but here is my set-up, should I need a vehicle to get us to safety.

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=332590
 

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As far as Bugging out goes, I'm staying put, Unless it is really bad.
I for see a fuel shortage of some type happening more than the need to bug out because of some disaster in my area, But you never know what the future holds. However I have several vehicles to meet my needs for different SHTF situations. The vehicles below are for me and my wife should we need separate vehicles.

I purchased a 1985 Diesel Mercedes station wagon with trailer hitch last year for fuel shortages or an EMP attack, Since I keep plenty of diesel fuel here at the house. I have also a small enclosed trailer also to go with this car.
This vehicle is EMP proof.

I purchased a 2014.5 Toyota Camry this year for gasoline shortages or high prices, and cheap transportation to get around with. This vehicle is not EMP proof.

I already owned 2 Harley Davidson Motorcycle to easily maneuver traffic jams if need be. But for safety reasons during SHTF I don't see it getting used much. These vehicles are not EMP proof.

I already owned a 2003 F-350 4X4 diesel Super-Duty for getting around in less than ideal conditions. As mentioned earlier I keep plenty of fuel here at the house for this vehicle also. This vehicle is not EMP proof.

I already owned a Mack Tri-axle Dump truck for what ever needs I need it for, except fuel mileage, It gets about 6 MPG, But holds 110 gallons of fuel. This vehicle is EMP proof.

I already owned a Toyota 4X4 4-Runner for getting around in less than ideal conditions and comfort. This vehicle is not EMP proof.

I already owned a very large enclosed trailer should we need to take valuables and belongings with us to leave town.

So to answer the OP's question, yes I have bought different vehicles in the past with SHTF in mind.
My Ford super duty I added a winch to the front of it, and an extra 105 gallon fuel tank.
I added Ham radios to all vehicles so I can communicate to my wife if cell phones go down.
For survival situations I suggest diesel powered vehicles, Since fuel is more easily stored.




A few pictures of my vehicles and setup.














 

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As far as Bugging out goes, I'm staying put, Unless it is really bad.
I for see a fuel shortage of some type happening more than the need to bug out because of some disaster in my area, But you never know what the future holds. However I have several vehicles to meet my needs for different SHTF situations. The vehicles below are for me and my wife should we need separate vehicles.

I purchased a 1985 Diesel Mercedes station wagon with trailer hitch last year for fuel shortages or an EMP attack, Since I keep plenty of diesel fuel here at the house. I have also a small enclosed trailer also to go with this car.
This vehicle is EMP proof.

I purchased a 2014.5 Toyota Camry this year for gasoline shortages or high prices, and cheap transportation to get around with. This vehicle is not EMP proof.

I already owned 2 Harley Davidson Motorcycle to easily maneuver traffic jams if need be. But for safety reasons during SHTF I don't see it getting used much. These vehicles are not EMP proof.

I already owned a 2003 F-350 4X4 diesel Super-Duty for getting around in less than ideal conditions. As mentioned earlier I keep plenty of fuel here at the house for this vehicle also. This vehicle is not EMP proof.

I already owned a Mack Tri-axle Dump truck for what ever needs I need it for, except fuel mileage, It gets about 6 MPG, But holds 110 gallons of fuel. This vehicle is EMP proof.

I already owned a Toyota 4X4 4-Runner for getting around in less than ideal conditions and comfort. This vehicle is not EMP proof.

I already owned a very large enclosed trailer should we need to take valuables and belongings with us to leave town.

So to answer the OP's question, yes I have bought different vehicles in the past with SHTF in mind.
My Ford super duty I added a winch to the front of it, and an extra 105 gallon fuel tank.
I added Ham radios to all vehicles so I can communicate to my wife if cell phones go down.
For survival situations I suggest diesel powered vehicles, Since fuel is more easily stored.




A few pictures of my vehicles and setup.











Your choices seems to be well thought out and it looks like you have all of your bases covered.
 

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I just visited this Merchants web site and saw no Bug Out Vehicle Support Section. Is that why you are asking? Do you intend to offer equipment, parts or advice on your web site to improve my bug out vehicle?
 

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I just visited this Merchants web site and saw no Bug Out Vehicle Support Section. Is that why you are asking? Do you intend to offer equipment, parts or advice on your web site to improve my bug out vehicle?


We are a new company and we love to hear from the people. We have a few team members that are in the automotive industry and they were eager to hear from our prospective customers. We do intend to offer vehicle equipment and accessories soon.
 

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What think is lacking in the BOV market is tools.

What about a klien tool backpack with real tools. Something that a mechanic would recommend to a person that realizes they might want to learn to turn some wrenches.
Something that doesn't look like a repackaged box store 1500 piece tool kit with a 6 oz tool hammer.
I recently purchased a spline drive socket set from walmart. This set is one of those 3/4" drive pass through kits. So it's deep well and shallow well. I can use a 3/4 ratchet wrench. I have some gear wrenchs which are spline drive with 4 different drives. With two wrenches I get 8 different drives which will work on my socket set and most common bolts and nuts on my truck. I got a 1/4 socket set that is splined and covers 4mm to 14mm and up to 9/16". This with a 1/4 drive wratch and 1/4 screwdriver bits covers almost everything. A strapwrench for filters that is light weight doesn't have a handle. It is 3/8" ratchet drive. One wobbly 6" extensions doesn't take up much space. Love my baby channel locks for a backup or to get a hose clamp which you have to squeeze to get off.
I'm in the process of reorganizing my tools due to getting rid of my tool boxes for a utility camper. I might post up a new conversation about some tools.
I just finished a quick google search. Im saying something like a pelican general mechanic tool kit but with splined drives for standard metric and torx fastners and 1/4" drive tools for picks files allen screws female torque and regular old bits.
 

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What think is lacking in the BOV market is tools.

What about a klien tool backpack with real tools. Something that a mechanic would recommend to a person that realizes they might want to learn to turn some wrenches.
Something that doesn't look like a repackaged box store 1500 piece tool kit with a 6 oz tool hammer.
I recently purchased a spline drive socket set from walmart. This set is one of those 3/4" drive pass through kits. So it's deep well and shallow well. I can use a 3/4 ratchet wrench. I have some gear wrenchs which are spline drive with 4 different drives. With two wrenches I get 8 different drives which will work on my socket set and most common bolts and nuts on my truck. I got a 1/4 socket set that is splined and covers 4mm to 14mm and up to 9/16". This with a 1/4 drive wratch and 1/4 screwdriver bits covers almost everything. A strapwrench for filters that is light weight doesn't have a handle. It is 3/8" ratchet drive. One wobbly 6" extensions doesn't take up much space. Love my baby channel locks for a backup or to get a hose clamp which you have to squeeze to get off.
I'm in the process of reorganizing my tools due to getting rid of my tool boxes for a utility camper. I might post up a new conversation about some tools.
Great point. We all should have quility tool sets in every vehicle. Even if your not capable of making emergency repairs it would be smart to have them for someone nearby that can help you out. I carry 3 bags in my vehicles that include all the basic tools I need, especially when I'm in the woods miles from anyone else. I am a master technician in my prior life so for me this is very important.
 

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answers to you questions:
1. No, my recent purchases have been to placate my wife and to fit my family comfortably in a vehicle.
2. My everyday vehicle has the standard, read normal tools/supplies one would need to survive most emergencies short of the eotwawki
3. I own a m35a2 and I can highly recommend them as a specific purpose BOV. What I recommend as a BOV to the average person who doesn't want a 7 ton military truck in their yard is a standard transmission 4x4 diesel 3/4 or 1 ton truck. Something that can be push or pull started without a battery.
 

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answers to you questions:
1. No, my recent purchases have been to placate my wife and to fit my family comfortably in a vehicle.
2. My everyday vehicle has the standard, read normal tools/supplies one would need to survive most emergencies short of the eotwawki
3. I own a m35a2 and I can highly recommend them as a specific purpose BOV. What I recommend as a BOV to the average person who doesn't want a 7 ton military truck in their yard is a standard transmission 4x4 diesel 3/4 or 1 ton truck. Something that can be push or pull started without a battery.
The idea of making sure your bov is a manual trans is something most wouldn't think of. Good point. Those are the small things that make a big difference.
 

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The idea of making sure your bov is a manual trans is something most wouldn't think of. Good point. Those are the small things that make a big difference.
I guess it is possible to push start an automatic transmission...I just don't know how to do it. But push/pull starting my deuce is super easy.

If someone was super worried about EMP they could park their manual transmission vehicle on a slop. Pullout the wheel chocks, pop the clutch and hit the road.
 

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I think you will find it difficult to offer much in the way of vehicle modifications except for "fits most vehicles" type of accessories. Even then, the low volume you will move just makes the price a killer.

A 72-hour kit designed around using your vehicle for shelter might be an ok seller. Fully-contained with water, food, and sanitation for getting stuck in an ice storm.
 

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I guess it is possible to push start an automatic transmission...I just don't know how to do it. But push/pull starting my deuce is super easy.

If someone was super worried about EMP they could park their manual transmission vehicle on a slop. Pullout the wheel chocks, pop the clutch and hit the road.
I was agreeing that the manual would be the better choice. Deffinetly not possible to push start an auto.
 

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Many survivalist have a plan for getting out of sticky situation. Many of those plans include some sort of vehicle including cars, trucks, boats, Rvs or motorcycles. Some survivalists ensure there everyday cehixles contain some sort of emergency kits or get home bags. Some of us own vehicle that we reserve for survival situations. What can you tell everyone about you transportation and how it relates to your survival plans.

1. Has this though affected a recent new vehicle purchase?
The last vehicle I bought was in 1999, a 1999 GMC Sonoma High Rider 3-door 4x4 mid size pick up truck. It was bought with prepping in mind.

2. What have you done to your existin everyday vehicle to prepare?
I keep spare parts, 'stranded gear', GHB, winter gear, plenty of water, and some tools in it at all times.

3. What type of vehicle do you own or recommend to be used soley in a survival situation?
A BOV only, not something intended for use in the PAW, can be pretty simple. It only needs the range and ability to get you where you need to go and have enough carrying capacity to take along the people and supplies that need to go with you.

It can be old and beat up. It can be ugly as sin. Doesn't need AC, though a heater/defroster is good. Does need decent tires, good brakes, and working lights. Any old car that can make that one trip to get you to safety can be a BOV. Doesn't need fancy electronics, either entertainment or power train. It just needs to be ready to go when you turn the key. It can sit up on blocks, taken down once a year to blow out the cobwebs and retreat the fuel. When it is needed, push it off the blocks, get in, and go. Doesn't matter if it doesn't go one foot further than the driveway of your destination. It got you to safety and that is all that matters. Sure, it can be much more, but it doesn't have to be.

A PAW vehicle is another thing entirely.
Attached is a list of ideas and options for a PAWV (Post Apocalyptic World Vehicle) known as Rufus. (Some of the links are pretty old and may not work.)

Just my opinion.
 

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