[Donzie]

I'm new to the site so please excuse me if beat a dead horse.
I recently repacked my bug out bag, and I am looking for advice.
this is like a defensive 3-day pack, with the intention of keeping the weight manageable for possible "foot escape"
contents are..
mop suit and mask
9-MREs
6-12hour chem-lights
2-emergency thermal blankets
rain poncho
trauma kit
waterproof matches
water purification tablets
canteen
trioxane fuel tabs
150' 550 cord
Kel-Tec sub2000 carbine-500rds
butcher knife kit
gps+compass+ batteries

what do you think I should add or lose?
thanks. Donzie

 

[Macguyver]

not bad, how far are you going?
by yourself?


My main suggestion would be to ditch the GPS and get a topgraphic map of the area you plan on traversing with this pack. Batteries are heavy, and Land Navigation is a crucial tool. Other than that i think the basics are taken care of. I have burned out on MREs personally, but if you can hack it.... stay away from the green gum......

also, maybe a couple extra pairs of socks at least... i dont know what kind of climate your in, but those are universal

 

[Donzie]

good call on the socks, I live in Michigan and if the SHTF I plan on heading north.

 

[Westfalia]

Good start!

I would recommend this equipment:
http://sibitotique.blogspot.com/2009/11/bug-out-guide-and-checklist.html

 

[ex-hunter]

Why chem lights?

I think it would make more sense to have a small/light flashlight.

 

[kev]

Do you have copies of all of your important papers? Like insurance papers, pictures, titles and deeds,,,,? Do you have a contact list put together with names, addresses and phone numbers? Do you have routes put together to the homes of friends and family members?

Have you made plans where you and your family can stay if you have to leave your home?

Use a scanner, make copies of all of your important papers and store them on a jump drive. Then you have all of your important documents with you.

While your making copies, make sure to make copies of your past couple of years tax papers and tax returns.

Its not enough to prepare physically, you have to prepare financially. That includes making sure you have the paperwork you need to make an insurance claim.

 

[Donzie]

thanks everyone,this site and its members truly are a valuable asset!
I do have a jump drive loaded. I also have flashlights, one on the sub2000 and a 145 lumen carried with a blade and a pistol daily.
sometimes in an evasive situations red and green chem lights offer ample light for navigation that is not easily seen at a distance.

 

[Moccasin]

This looks VERY good. The carbine and ammo may be excessive for a three day bag, unless you expect to be engaged in heavy fighting - a handgun might be better, and less noticeable if you're forced to go on foot - but you know your situation better than I.

Speaking of being on foot, I assume you'll be wearing shoes / boots suitable for hard tramping. If there's a chance you might be caught in dress shoes or work boots, you might want to have a spare pair in your bag to change to. Ditto for clothes.

Not sure what you mean by a butcher knife kit.

Some other possiblities: Whistle, multi-tool, gloves (rubber and leather), notebook and pencil, plastic bags (a multi-use item), candles, some duct tape...

 

[Donzie]

This looks VERY good. The carbine and ammo may be excessive for a three day bag, unless you expect to be engaged in heavy fighting - a handgun might be better, and less noticeable if you're forced to go on foot - but you know your situation better than I.

Speaking of being on foot, I assume you'll be wearing shoes / boots suitable for hard tramping. If there's a chance you might be caught in dress shoes or work boots, you might want to have a spare pair in your bag to change to. Ditto for clothes.

Not sure what you mean by a butcher knife kit.

Some other possiblities: Whistle, multi-tool, gloves (rubber and leather), notebook and pencil, plastic bags (a multi-use item), candles, some duct tape...

all of those will get added soon thanks :thumb:


the knife kit is a small field dressing kit with a fillet knife, gut hook skinner and a small cleaver.
the carbine folds in half to 14"x6" and fits easily.it is 9mm so the ammo is not too heavy and I also carry a 9mm pistol daily.

 

[fisherpeak]

Do you have copies of all of your important papers? Like insurance papers, pictures, titles and deeds,,,,? Do you have a contact list put together with names, addresses and phone numbers? Do you have routes put together to the homes of friends and family members?

Have you made plans where you and your family can stay if you have to leave your home?

Use a scanner, make copies of all of your important papers and store them on a jump drive. Then you have all of your important documents with you.

While your making copies, make sure to make copies of your past couple of years tax papers and tax returns.

Its not enough to prepare physically, you have to prepare financially. That includes making sure you have the paperwork you need to make an insurance claim.

My,you are an optimist aren`t you!SHTF means that there probably aren`t going to be many insurance companies left.Or Banks,Goverment,telephone networks and OH GOD NO......T.V.

 

[ChrisInGa]

My,you are an optimist aren`t you!SHTF means that there probably aren`t going to be many insurance companies left.Or Banks,Goverment,telephone networks and OH GOD NO......T.V.

I think you'll find Kev to be very knowledgable about a bunch of things. And he is right. The chances of Road Warrior actually happening is very small. but the chances of an earthquake/wildfire/tornado/hurricane or similar occurring are MUCH MUCH MUCH higher.

SHTF can mean different things to different people. Having your bases covered on the most likely events first is a smart plan.

 

[kev]

My,you are an optimist aren`t you!SHTF means that there probably aren`t going to be many insurance companies left.Or Banks,Goverment,telephone networks and OH GOD NO......T.V.

Maybe you need to step back into reality? We deal with realistic disasters around here, with the exception of the 2012 forum.

This is what a real disaster looks like. But I doubt you will take the time to watch the videos.

In the "Ode to Hurricane Ike" video, you will see a picture of something white, with a circle of orange spray paint. That is where the search and rescue teams searched my parents house, and did not find anyone. That was after their house got 9 feet of storm surge flood waters from Hurricane Ike.

 

[Ronin420]

good call on the socks, I live in Michigan and if the SHTF I plan on heading north.

Underwear too.

Know what they say.. face, underarm, crotch, and a$$!!

In all seriousness, these, and feet, are the main places that you will develope rashes/infections. Keep them clean, and dry, and you'll be ok.

I keep 3 pairs sock, 3 pair wool socks, 3 pair underwear, long john ( shirt and pants ) in a dry sac in my BOB


- 6 pair socks
- 3 pair underwear
- long john set ( shirt pants )
- spare pants
- sweater
- t-shirt
- work gloves
- hat, mits, scarf, thin winder pants
- rain gear ( coat, pants )
- emergency blanket
- emergency first aid kit 120 pcs ( modified, with apirin, bug bite juice, polysporine, suiture kit etc...
- 3M mask with p-100 particle filter, and chemical/solvent filter
- fire starting kit ( magnesium, lighter, water proof matches
- full tang, 440 stainless hunting knife
- 8 MRE
- 3L water
- 50 purification tabs
-100 rounds ammo, for my rifle
- 150 ft nylon 3/4 rope
- small 2 man tent with weather shell

By foot my BOL is about 4 days away, so I built this bag, for exactly that. It doesnt have 4 days of water, but thats what the pur tabs are for.


Hope my list helps.

 

[Ronin420]

Maybe you need to step back into reality? We deal with realistic disasters around here, with the exception of the 2012 forum.

This is what a real disaster looks like. But I doubt you will take the time to watch the videos.

In the "Ode to Hurricane Ike" video, you will see a picture of something white, with a circle of orange spray paint. That is where the search and rescue teams searched my parents house, and did not find anyone. That was after their house got 9 feet of storm surge flood waters from Hurricane Ike.

YouTube- Those Days Are Over

YouTube- Ode to Bridge City - Hurricane Ike

YouTube- Bridge City, Texas cleaning up after Hurricane Ike

I have never been closer to a huricane than the local news. Man the devastation is CRAZY, and thats 3 MONTHS later.

Hope your family was ok, and all i can say is you are one tough SOB to live in a place that throws THAT at you every once in a while.

 

[kev]

I have never been closer to a huricane than the local news. Man the devastation is CRAZY, and thats 3 MONTHS later.

We have people down here still living in FEMA trailers as they rebuild their homes - 18 months after the fact.

Some of the people are looking at 3 - 4 years to get their lives back on track.

This is why I say that the "bug out bag" (and your never coming home) is mostly a myth. When you leave your home, your going to take anything you can get your hands on. Food, clothes, family pictures, insurance papers, tax papers, guns, money, titles and deeds, computers,,,,,,. Because 99.9999% of the time, you will be returning home in a matter of days.

I have no idea how much post hurricane ike video and pictures I have that has never been published. A lot of the video and pictures were not posted because it hurts too much to look at them.

My family has been evacuating since I was about 12 years old. From a tropical storm that flooded my families house around 1982, all the way to hurricane ike in 2008. I have yet just to grab a "bug out bag" and hit the road.

I like to keep a bag packed, and ready to go. But its mostly what you might call a backpacking, or camping bag, which you might also call a "bug out bag". When my family has to evacuate, my camping bag, is renamed my "bug out bag".

 

[Ronin420]

We have people down here still living in FEMA trailers as they rebuild their homes - 18 months after the fact.

Some of the people are looking at 3 - 4 years to get their lives back on track.

This is why I say that the "bug out bag" (and your never coming home) is mostly a myth. When you leave your home, your going to take anything you can get your hands on. Food, clothes, family pictures, insurance papers, tax papers, guns, money, titles and deeds, computers,,,,,,. Because 99.9999% of the time, you will be returning home in a matter of days.

I have no idea how much post hurricane ike video and pictures I have that has never been published. A lot of the video and pictures were not posted because it hurts too much to look at them.

My family has been evacuating since I was about 12 years old. From a tropical storm that flooded my families house around 1982, all the way to hurricane ike in 2008. I have yet just to grab a "bug out bag" and hit the road.

I like to keep a bag packed, and ready to go. But its mostly what you might call a backpacking, or camping bag, which you might also call a "bug out bag". When my family has to evacuate, my camping bag, is renamed my "bug out bag".

sounds like an "interesting" way of life. I'm glad you've managed to be ok everytime.

Kind of off topic, but is there any info you might share on these FEMA camps. I live in Canada and we dont really have an equivalent. During Ice Storm '98 shelters were mostly handled by municipalities with Provincial suppost. I'm interested to know what could be expected in a regional/national disaster. PM me if you dont want to discuss it in this thread.

 

[Cryptkeeper]

My,you are an optimist aren`t you!SHTF means that there probably aren`t going to be many insurance companies left.Or Banks,Goverment,telephone networks and OH GOD NO......T.V.

obviously he knows what he is talking about and you dont
a SHTF doesnt just mean war or totally world disturction.ive said it before and it looks like it needs to be said again.

there are several types of the SHTF and within those types there are several levels of the SHTF.

example: your house burns down that is a high level personel SHTF. now that fire speads and now the whole county is on fire this turns into a local SHTF,but the fire keeps going into 5 counties now its a state level SHTF but it keeps going into 4 states now a national level SHTF.

a country going bankrupt is a national SHTF that could turn worldwide.but that doesnt mean banks will close forever or the gov will not to exsist nor will the telephone suddely stop working . to get an idea of what will happen just look at what happened to argentina back on 2001 when their country went backrupt.... ppl still had jobs ppl still went to work.

 

[Cryptkeeper]

I'm new to the site so please excuse me if beat a dead horse.
I recently repacked my bug out bag, and I am looking for advice.
this is like a defensive 3-day pack, with the intention of keeping the weight manageable for possible "foot escape"
contents are..
mop suit and mask
9-MREs
6-12hour chem-lights
2-emergency thermal blankets
rain poncho
trauma kit
waterproof matches
water purification tablets
canteen
trioxane fuel tabs
150' 550 cord
Kel-Tec sub2000 carbine-500rds
butcher knife kit
gps+compass+ batteries

what do you think I should add or lose?
thanks. Donzie

why a butcher knife kit? are you planning to hunt with that kel-tec? i would get a regular knife or 2. since you live up north and you plan on bugging out toward the north i would getting a sleeping bag to keep warm at night. and instead of the blankets have a tarp for cover. and maybe a poncholiner :thumb:

 

[Lynn731]

No place to bug out to. Staying home and watchin tv.

 

[Savage1]

A few things I noticed would be more ways to make fire since matches are so limited. Add a ferro rod, magnesium fire starter, and/or a fire piston.

Also, perhaps a stainless steel canteen cup for boiling water and making food.

Besides what others have mentioned you have the basics covered.