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Shuriken snowflake
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I've never been in the BOB club, but I'll ask a few basic things and see if anyone can answer.

So the purpose of a BOB is to provide you stuff while you get from A to B. Right? OK, I guess it can also be for other things but lets assume what I said.

Say for some reason we cannot just take the car and head for the cabin. We have to walk. Say it is late spring, summer or early fall. Without pushing too hard, we could make that walk in 5 days. If the weather is not too bad, all we'd need is a rain poncho to curl up under and a warm blanket. Some calorie dense food would be nice and a water bottle (You could likely drink from a creek here without getting sick).

Meaning, the BOB could be really minimal. Basically grab anything and we would be fine.

Now for winter. Say for simplicity there is not a lot of snow or I'd need skis, but it is still dead cold. There is just no way we could walk for hours on end in the winter. Making camp would be hard. Need a good tent, very warm sleeping bags etc. Still we would be cold all along. Would need a whole lot of gear, food etc and still we probably would freeze to death half way. Wet clothes would never dry. Would need a lot of clothes or some really pricey type that doesn't absorb sweat.

Suddenly the BOB gets really complicated. Actually almost impossible.

Under these circumstances I feel there is no real use for a BOB.

Prove me wrong.
 

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thats a good reason to have more than one . hear me out on this i have 4 bobs summer winter fishing and dirt bike it does get complicated but not with 4=-=-=-=-good luck hope that helped
 

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I've never been in the BOB club, but I'll ask a few basic things and see if anyone can answer.

So the purpose of a BOB is to provide you stuff while you get from A to B. Right? OK, I guess it can also be for other things but lets assume what I said.

Say for some reason we cannot just take the car and head for the cabin. We have to walk. Say it is late spring, summer or early fall. Without pushing too hard, we could make that walk in 5 days. If the weather is not too bad, all we'd need is a rain poncho to curl up under and a warm blanket. Some calorie dense food would be nice and a water bottle (You could likely drink from a creek here without getting sick).

Meaning, the BOB could be really minimal. Basically grab anything and we would be fine.

Now for winter. Say for simplicity there is not a lot of snow or I'd need skis, but it is still dead cold. There is just no way we could walk for hours on end in the winter. Making camp would be hard. Need a good tent, very warm sleeping bags etc. Still we would be cold all along. Would need a whole lot of gear, food etc and still we probably would freeze to death half way. Wet clothes would never dry. Would need a lot of clothes or some really pricey type that doesn't absorb sweat.

Suddenly the BOB gets really complicated. Actually almost impossible.

Under these circumstances I feel there is no real use for a BOB.

Prove me wrong.
For gods sake Speedy! Have you not been paying attention, lol! I'm betting there have been a thousand + posts about why a Bob is a good idea! I'll give you one! I went offroading several years ago and was 32 miles from the nearest highway and after taking a hike I find my battery was dead in my truck! So I had to walk out with my pooch! I always keep 4 quarts of water and a couple of MREs in my truck along with a first aid kit, heavy jacket, matches, flashlight and on this occasion a 22 pistol! After spending part of a night trying to stay warm by a fire, driving off a pack of feral dogs, sharing my food with my pooch, and walking 32 miles in daylite and darkness I made it to the highway some 32 hours later! Probably would have made it without my supplies but goes to show how important my preps were! Me and my pooch were none the worse for wear! We probably would have been in bad shape otherwise! And if I had spained or broken an ankle or foot, my supplies would have keep me going a few more days just in case! Any more questions?
 

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Sweet story rokitman!, good for you!

And a BOB is for say you have a flood coming or a blizzard or a fire etc, and u need to grab something and get the hell out of the house, u know some things that will get you by for a couple days till u can make it back or whatever. its not designed for the world being nuked and u have to walk across the planet book of eli style with your back pack just to make it to your cabin.

If you have a blizzard and are freezing to death well maybe ur luck just sucks and its your time but being prepared sure beats being not!
 

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Under these circumstances I feel there is no real use for a BOB.

Prove me wrong.
Reason for a summer or winter BOB...

House fire or forest fire. Everything is burning up fast and seconds count. Grab a bag and go rather than acting frantic "grabbing stuff" that you are sure to forget something.

Like you said, don't need it t be complicated "live in the woods" type. But just something to keep you going a little while longer.
 

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If the place is on fire I'll grab my cats...
I keep my cats in my BOB :D: J/k

But I do have a kitty bag for them for just that emergency. But that doesn't exclude the fact that you can grab the cats and someone else grab the BOB right? In fact, it makes it MORE important since you will be using up time gathering the kitties. You will be cutting down any time to "grab stuff". Having the BOB ready will save you time.

For us. The priority is our son, the cats, the bags.

 

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I'm the only one in my apartment, so the other ones to grab a cat or a bag would be a bunny and I just don't see it happening.
 

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And yea I think I just crossed the fine line between relatively sane and crazy.. so this is what it looks like on the other side?... Interesting. Thought it would be more dramatic.
 

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If the place is on fire I'll grab my cats...
too bad you didnt grab a bag to throw on your back with catfood, water, a change of clothes, a blanket, a flashlight, a spare cellphone to dial emergency numbers with, copies of your ID's and a back up credit card..

atleast you will get to the hotel with no money, nothing to eat, and no way to prove your identity. But hey it wouldnt have been smart just to throw a few things into a bag by the front door so when you got out of there you atleast were better off then if you didnt.

I think your arguing that not being prepared is better then being ready to benefit yourself. makes no sense to me.
 

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But seriously walking between here and cabin in winter is impossible.

It is. Seriously.
Snow shoes are a good thing to add to a winter BOB. Especially when you know you will be up against a large amount of snowfall. If you don't have snow shoes, they can be improvised rather easily and rather quickly with some branches and some cordage.
 

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I'm the only one in my apartment, so the other ones to grab a cat or a bag would be a bunny and I just don't see it happening.
Well living in an APT makes it easier. I always thought you lived in cabin in the woods or something LOL. :D: :D: Maybe you talked about going to a cabin one time or something.

Look have the bag by the door. And throw it over your shoulder on your way out like a purse. Heck it can BE your purse with a few extra provisions! You will have to go through that way anyway when exiting. No need to go out of your way to "grab" it.

Since you live in an apartment, you could have things like a small amount of cash, cat food, people food, emergency phone charger, phone list, toiletries for a hotel stay, jump drive with pictures and such etc etc.

It doesn't have to be End of the World survival bag. The point is to have quick access to needed essentials when time matters.

BTW when living in an Apartment, fire was my MAIN concern. You can control fires somewhat when you live in a house... in an apartment, you are under the mercy of your neighbors stupidity. One time living in my apartment, neighbors set their apartment overloading an outlet. Firemen kicked down my door at about 2-3 am in the morning. Luckily I grabbed my gym-bag which had clothes and money. Otherwise I would have been in my pajamas. This was before cats, wife and kids.
 

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I've never been in the BOB club, but I'll ask a few basic things and see if anyone can answer.

So the purpose of a BOB is to provide you stuff while you get from A to B. Right? OK, I guess it can also be for other things but lets assume what I said.

Say for some reason we cannot just take the car and head for the cabin. We have to walk. Say it is late spring, summer or early fall. Without pushing too hard, we could make that walk in 5 days. If the weather is not too bad, all we'd need is a rain poncho to curl up under and a warm blanket. Some calorie dense food would be nice and a water bottle (You could likely drink from a creek here without getting sick).

Meaning, the BOB could be really minimal. Basically grab anything and we would be fine.

Now for winter. Say for simplicity there is not a lot of snow or I'd need skis, but it is still dead cold. There is just no way we could walk for hours on end in the winter. Making camp would be hard. Need a good tent, very warm sleeping bags etc. Still we would be cold all along. Would need a whole lot of gear, food etc and still we probably would freeze to death half way. Wet clothes would never dry. Would need a lot of clothes or some really pricey type that doesn't absorb sweat.

Suddenly the BOB gets really complicated. Actually almost impossible.

Under these circumstances I feel there is no real use for a BOB.

Prove me wrong.
It would be a long way from impossible. It is simply winter camping which a lot of us do. You do need suitable clothing. In very cold weather there is no reason to be wet unless you fall through ice.

Snow makes it easy because you can use skis or snoshoes and pull a small toboggan. If there is no snow you must be prepared to carry your pack. I have camped many times in weather as cold as Sweden and it only adds another dimension to the camping, keeping warm. There is an abundance of lightweight cold weather camping and mountaineering gear out there and my advice for you is to get some and experiment with it until you feel confident, Like anything else it just takes a little experience. Get a sleeping bag that is rated for a colder temperature than you expect. The best way is to use one inside the other and then you can use a single in warmer weather.

Oh don't sweat while you are walking, shed clothing instead. While you are moving with a load you WILL keep warm. Have high calorie food and a way to heat it. Fats and sugars are needed to stay warm at night.
 

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7445 posts?

If you can live without a bob your amazing and a billy badass.

If armies since the dawn of time can cross thousands of miles in all terrain in all weather types

So can you

A bob is the sexual lubricant which is survival sex

Sure you can go dry..... But why would you?
 

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Mtnairkin, the problem is following. And I have been taking hikes in the winter so I know how tricky it gets. If you walk, you sweat. If you take off clothes to make you not sweat, you will be exposed to snow instead (OK now in my scenario it suddenly started snowing). You will be snowy and the snow will melt on you and you will be wet. Either dang way.
 

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Shuriken snowflake
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too bad you didnt grab a bag to throw on your back with catfood, water, a change of clothes, a blanket, a flashlight, a spare cellphone to dial emergency numbers with, copies of your ID's and a back up credit card..

atleast you will get to the hotel with no money, nothing to eat, and no way to prove your identity. But hey it wouldnt have been smart just to throw a few things into a bag by the front door so when you got out of there you atleast were better off then if you didnt.

I think your arguing that not being prepared is better then being ready to benefit yourself. makes no sense to me.
If something happened to just my place, why can't I just go to my friends' place or something?

The situation I'd need a BOB the most is if I wasn't home in the first place, and if I'm not, the BOB will do no good standing next to my door.

Sure, it is nice to be prepared, but it just has to make sense to me.
 
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