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Blow off some "grammar nazi" steam here.

37K views 306 replies 85 participants last post by  Joe-R  
#1 ·
I don't care about who said it or trying to correct them in a thread, sometimes I just want to vent about it and thought a thread devoted to the purpose would be cathartic, entertaining, enlightening and might keep threads from going off track.

The idiom is to "make sense" not "since".

It's not "Must to do about nothing" it's "Much ado about nothing".
 
#7 ·
It's :
"should've done something." Not "should of done something." "would've done something" not "would of done something." "Could've etc...."

Should've, would've, could've.
Short for "should have, would have, could have."

I'm no expert in music, but perhaps remembering a song title will help - Should've Said No (Taylor Swift).



Wary/weary/leery
(not leary)

If you are wary of something, you are watchful, cautious, alert.

If you are weary of something, you are tired of it. You can also be just plain weary (tired).

If you are leery you are cautious, distrustful, suspicious.

"I was leery of that young man who was hanging around the parking lot. His presence made me wary of possible trouble. When I got home I was so weary I went straight to bed."

I don't correct people on here, because I make my own mistakes. However there are certain errors which are seen over and over and I'm weary of them. :)

Thanks for allowing me to vent!
 
#10 ·
We all make errors and fatigue (I couldn't sleep much tonight) and speed cause problems but there's also mistakes beyond being careless that indicate in some cases, a lack of education, a deliberate negligence of what is correct, or sometimes pure limitations. For some, it's a forced form of 'voice'.


Well, I use it for a credibility gauge.

If someone is discussing tracking techniques or how to grow something in difficult conditions and his or her grammar is terrible, that doesn't affect (they might write 'effect') that person's credibility in the subject from my perspective. It actually might add to their credibility because of their focus.

If someone is using 'clips' for magazines, carries 'bullets' (as opposed to rounds,) in their AK 'clips', calls that AK "Main Battle Rifle" because they think that term is cool and they don't know there's a specific definition for MBR's and makes other mistakes, they've got little or no credibility in that field...again, unless they're talking about specific experiences they've had with a specific firearm.

If we're discussing the importance of precious metals, it's interesting to see the often dramatic difference in writing skills and cognitive ability between those who understand the historic, social, and economic value of prepping in depth and those who have only the capacity to understand you can't eat gold or silver.
 
#20 ·
Exactly! It's easy to tell that I'm experienced in chickens and gardens with only rudimentary knowledge about any guns except my own specific ones. Which is why I put my kids in the rifle club so they can learn better than I did all the 'details' to go along with it.

Although even the things I'm experienced with.... I don't often pay attention to or acknowledge 'technical terms' just because I'm a nutjob like that. I'm still going to call a 'crop' a 'feed sack'. Just because I can. But I would never call it a 'gut'.

Um.....
I'm older than you and the period has, since I was a child, gone inside the quotation marks. And to make sure I was correct before I wrote this post, I checked my copy of Warriner's 8th Grade English Grammar and Composition, 1963 edition. The rule of the period going inside the quoatation mark is there, rule 15d, on page 254. (So it's older than when either of us were in elementary school and in fact is older than you, but sadly it is not older than me.)

I do understand your feelings about it, but it's just one of those rules. If you have any old books you can double check. I'm going to go hunt now, just for my own enjoyment.

Yes, I'm geeky-weird. Can't help it. Takes all sorts, etc.
The rules for quotes follows common sense. If the statement or question is INSIDE the quote marks then the punctuation should also be INSIDE the quote marks.

She asked, "Will you still be my friend?"
Here the question is INSIDE the quote.
Do you agree with the saying, "All's fair in love and war"?
Here the question is outside the quote.

NOTE: Only one ending punctuation mark is used with quotation marks. Also, the stronger punctuation mark wins. Therefore, no period after war is used.
 
#11 ·
Look, I don't care what you youngins think. When I was in school, the period went AFTER the quotes, NOT inside of them!!

It's:
He said "The ball is red".

NOT:
He said "The ball is red."

That's just stupid.
 
#12 ·
Whether it's laziness, ignorance or just plain stupidity

I hate when someone tries to "appear" smarter than you in their posts but then cannot spell.

I let it go and don't say anything, I am from the South, and our southern drawl makes a lot of folks appear slow when they are not

Lesson: If you're trying to seek an intellectual position over another watch your "p's" and "q's" and realize if you cannot spell properly, then sometimes the "higher" intellectual position you are seeking in written communication sends you to a lower position.

I've seen some folks with great communication skills, until you take away the teleprompter and then their stupidity comes out!
 
#21 ·
#24 ·
You may have something there, VN. Some schools did take on different systems. I have a friend who cannot spell well because his school ditched normal phonics and started teaching some experimental way of teaching writing.

However, the old British books I have (and that's most of my old books anymore) use punctuation as I described. I wonder if you can find out the methodology the nuns used. Not that it is important, but I do love things like that.
 
#23 ·
I do this a lot and it generates a lot of comments about my 'improper use of quotes'.

Obviously I use British standards. Since I teach my children proper grammar from a grammar book used in the 1600's.

Using single and double quotes: In British conventions, double quotes are used for text that is exactly quoted, and single quotes (called “inverted commas” in British conventions) are reserved for text that is not directly quoted or for emphasizing a word or words. In this way, the reader knows whether the material inside is an actual quote from someone or something, or if the writer is trying to create emphasis. In American conventions, double quotes are used for everything, and the reader has to guess or figure it out from the context.

British: Alfred was ‘happy’ after drinking.
The use of the inverted commas lets the reader know that “happy” may mean something other than “joyous.” The writer is not actually quoting someone.
American: Alfred was “happy” after drinking.
Is the writer quoting someone else, perhaps someone who observed Alfred? Or should the reader understand that “happy” is not being used according to its common definition? Who knows. Your guess is as good as mine.
 
#27 ·
Having your intelligence judged by your verbal skills is a pet peave of mine. I had to go to a speech class before I could start school and have always had a speech problem, and English classes at school was also hard for me. Same for my youngest son, and the same for his oldest son.
We all are very high in math skills, all engineers, and I'am a retired Com Pilot.
Judging someone intelligence by their verbal skills is just a wrong as judging their intelligence by their Math skills.
We are ALL just different and have different gifts and deficits.
The heighth of ignorance is, when you don't know, and you don't know, that you don't know. That includes some highly educated people. Pops
 
#29 ·
A place to vent so that threads don't get derailed.

The idiom is to "make sense" not "since".

It's not "Must to do about nothing" it's "Much ado about nothing".
How about those that use "there, their, they're" incorrectly! And of course the most common grammatical mistake here on this board; the infamous "your" instead of using "you're". For instance; saying "your going to hell", instead of "you're" going to hell. Lots of folks have no idea how and WHEN to use contractions.
 
#37 ·
If I were worth a million or so and generous , you really wouldn't care about my spelling .
You'd over look it cause that is human nature.
If you are that board ,that you have to nit pick ,the information offered by the less than perfect ,feel free to ignore, in fact by all means ignore.
I'd rather that the patient and forgiving, gain the tidbits of gold found of the simpler folk, then the "I'm better than you are crowd, cauz I ken spel".
Patient teachable people are not busy looking for fault in the messenger, what they care about is the message.
 
#43 ·
than, then
you're, your
using a instead of an
whether, weather
their, there, they're

I find some of the posts difficult to comprehend when the wrong words are used. When I have to read a sentence more than twice to understand what the writer means, I give up and go to the next post.