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#1 ·
For those of you who glanced at the weather
Kansas is getting hammered

It’s not so much the snow, but the 30 mph
winds with gusts to the 60 mph range
Every county around us the roads are shut down by KDOT
Most of my county also

Heard the dispatcher advising they had another slide off that is occupied and they can not send anyone to help them before
the snow plows come thru

KDOT does not have a shop in my county
So the snow plows come from surrounding counties. We are NOT a priority and thanks to former governor brownback, KDOT is short of manpower

So a bit of the obvious

1. STAY HOME

2. If the state closes the highway STAY HOME

3. If whatever reason you think you must go
Out, grab a sleeping bag and food, because you are going to be in the ditch at best

4. Get a full tank of gas and pray your car is still able to run while you are sitting in the ditch

5. some of them have been sitting in the ditch for going on 5 hours

Did I mention STAY HOME

geesh
 
#2 ·
We're in S.IL and are predicted about 4 inches of snow Sunday. High of 16, low of 0. Monday it's supposed to be a high 0f 7 with a low of -4. This will be the coldest, snowiest we've had it in years.

It in the 40's here today with rain and wind.
 
#15 ·
We're in S.IL and are predicted about 4 inches of snow Sunday. High of 16, low of 0. Monday it's supposed to be a high 0f 7 with a low of -4. This will be the coldest, snowiest we've had it in years.

It in the 40's here today with rain and wind.
At the other end of the state 6" is predicted today but with a temp of 33f it could turn to rain or ice.
I canceled an appointment so I don't have to be out in it.
 
#3 ·
I retired a year ago, part of my job was running a large orange plow truck. My advise considering my experiences with people is your number one. Stay the **** home. People can't drive on a good day. They run down the middle of the road and force plows off the road. They don't understand the concept of friction. And these are people who should be used to driving in these conditions. Well gotta go, I gotta plow for a buddy who does township roads and has a guy on vacation. See you in the ditch......
 
#5 ·
There are always emergencies that can crop up that send you out on the road in a storm. Having said that, an emergency is not the home bound kids are bored so let's go to the indoor waterpark.

I will always remember back in the winter of 07-08, there was a big storm coming. Every news for over a week had been warning about it.

The day the storm hit, the schools closed and all these parents found themselves lock into their houses with bored kids they usually shipped off for schools to deal with. So down by Wisconsin Dells all these "parents" loaded all their kids into their cars and headed out onto the interstate. Somewhere along the line a few truckers, trying to get to shelter, got stuck, and all these families started getting stuck behind those trucks. The interstate started piling up as more if these families head for The Dells. Pretty soon the traffic jam was miles long, I mean hundred of miles long. From north of Madison to almost the border with Illinois. Mostly families who were heading to the waterparks because they couldn't be alone with their kids.

Good people took snowmobiles up onto the interstate and brought food and blankets to people who had little more than swim suits and towels. Law enforcement was nowhere to be found, but then again they had been sending warnings that they wouldn't come and save people until the storm was over. It took over 24 hours to get traffic moving again (can't plow with all those stationary cars).

It was that year I realized a good number of people should not have kids, and common sense is dead.
 
#14 ·
There are always emergencies that can crop up that send you out on the road in a storm. Having said that, an emergency is not the home bound kids are bored so let's go to the indoor waterpark.

I will always remember back in the winter of 07-08, there was a big storm coming. Every news for over a week had been warning about it.

The day the storm hit, the schools closed and all these parents found themselves lock into their houses with bored kids they usually shipped off for schools to deal with. So down by Wisconsin Dells all these "parents" loaded all their kids into their cars and headed out onto the interstate. Somewhere along the line a few truckers, trying to get to shelter, got stuck, and all these families started getting stuck behind those trucks. The interstate started piling up as more if these families head for The Dells. Pretty soon the traffic jam was miles long, I mean hundred of miles long. From north of Madison to almost the border with Illinois. Mostly families who were heading to the waterparks because they couldn't be alone with their kids.

Good people took snowmobiles up onto the interstate and brought food and blankets to people who had little more than swim suits and towels. Law enforcement was nowhere to be found, but then again they had been sending warnings that they wouldn't come and save people until the storm was over. It took over 24 hours to get traffic moving again (can't plow with all those stationary cars).

It was that year I realized a good number of people should not have kids, and common sense is dead.
I remember that and they ended up stuck overnight with the national guard to the rescue. I think the salt trucks got behind the curve and there are some slight grades that could stall anything out with ice.
I'm past the south end of the cheddar curtain and I told my son to come get me with the ATV if it happens here (after that incident) as I'm not camping in the truck overnight.
ATV has oversize mudders 4 wheel lock , winch, straps, extra high intensity lighting and we used to put them to the limits back in the day.
 
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#7 ·
You also have to remember,not everybody is a idiot and some people can drive in the winter just fine. I believe most people wouldn't have accidents in the winter if they actually had winter tires on thier vehicles. I see so many people here in pa with almost bald tires tires or tires that just won't work in the snow/ice,you can have brand new all season tires and they can be worthless in the snow and ice. Plus here is the big one,SLOW down and pay attention. I intentionally drive around the mountains in the snow for fun always have since I was a kid.
 
#8 ·
We're getting hammered here in NE Wisconsin as well. While the snow isn't supposed to be too bad (4-8, 6-10 by the lake) the winds are gusting up to 35 mph. It's an ugly day to be out and I feel sorry for the mail carriers! The evening and tomorrow's morning commute will be ugly too. It's a very fine day to stay home! The best gift I can give to LEO and the plow drivers is to STAY THE **** HOME!!!
 
#9 ·
We're getting hammered here in NE Wisconsin as well. While the snow isn't supposed to be too bad (4-8, 6-10 by the lake) the winds are gusting up to 35 mph. It's an ugly day to be out and I feel sorry for the mail carriers! The evening and tomorrow's morning commute will be ugly too. It's a very fine day to stay home! The best gift I can give to LEO and the plow drivers is to STAY THE **** HOME!!!
Exactly, people who are out and don't need to be aren't thinking. Even if you're the best driver in the world, a truck driver in front of you sliding sideways across the road stops your forward progress. Confused drivers behind you stopping and getting stuck stops your backwards progress. Now suddenly you are an obstacle and a rescue in need. There are plow drivers that need to be out there. Don't make their lives harder. I'm a SaR team member, and I would say 85% of the people I have to rescue were overly confident people who didn't practice common sense. The other 15% were just people having no idea what they were doing. What's the old saying " it's only fun until somebody gets their eye poked out." Yeah, I hate looking around for people's eyeball because they thought they were smarter than they are.
 
#10 ·
No snow here in SC. Supposed to be 70°. We're getting lots of rain, though, and coupled with the already saturated ground from previous rain, it wouldn't take much wind to uproot trees.

Schools and many businesses are closed and the authorities have issued severe weather warnings. Sustained wind at 25-40mph is predicted, starting around 2pm.

Stay safe, everyone!
 
#11 ·
Been living in Western NYS since 1972 and seen a few REAL blizzards [ the '77' one was a biggy ].

And worked as a cop for 26 of those years and have lots of storys about "trying" to patrol in a rear wheel drive Crown Vic.

Best advice is from the ex plow jockey = STAY HOME,or plan on that ditch time.

I drive a 4 Runner 4X4 and great tires , I stay home unless I have a REAL need to go out.
 
#12 ·
We got several inches of snow here in My corner of Kansas,it was raining hard first so I bet it's a huge mess with ice under snow,we haven't got out to do chores yet,I'll have to drive around a little and see what gravel roads are like,I have appt at butcher to drop off old hamburger cow this afternoon.

Not sure I'll be able to keep appointment,it's about 15 miles of gravel road pulling trailer,and way wind was blowing im sure drifts are going to deep.
 
#13 ·
Maaan, there are cars dead in drifts all over my town. We went to dig my mother in laws truck out this am. There was a heavy wrecker from Amarillo towing some 18 wheelers too. I'm not sure if Raton pass is still closed, but a lot of traffic is coming from Oklahoma. They closed287/87 from dumas Texas to the Colorado border. Our whole town (Clayton N.M) is a mess right now.
 
#16 ·
Eastern Iowa here, I would think we're getting the tail end of the storm that you are describing. It is absolutely all of that and more, we got about 5.5 inches overnight and still snowing, probably will end with 8-10 inches. Wife works in town, I told her from wake up she should just stay home, she kept fighting until the very end when finally her boss said they wouldn't need to come in, apparently sections in town are total sheets of ice.

Went out and shoveled her side in case she needed out, and already 2+ inches down over the completely cleared side.

Sports league is saying they aren't planning on canceling, I don't understand why. People coming from 30+ minutes away, traveling the worst roads we've had all year, and they won't cancel for a rec sports league. Keep people's safety first!

Visibility/wind is the biggest issue we're getting too, 45mph winds, causing extremely limited/no visibility, 1000 feet or less at best, and causing blowing snow on all roads. Multiple reports of accidents on roads and tow ban already put in.

Got no plans to go anywhere, food in the crockpot for dinner, we're gonna hunker in and stay home, be two less people making an issue.
 
#17 ·
Why? I have a 4wd truck on $1,400 worth of 35" KO2's with lockers. I get so tired of gubbermint locking the roads because of citidiots and telling me I can't drive in 6 or 8 inches of snow. That doesn't even reach my wheels.

I'm prepared, why can't others? There ought to be a law that prepared people with the right equipment are exempt from lock downs.

And why can't these fools in their 2wd roller skate SUVs SLOW DOWN! If you drive 20 and hit black ice you slide a little bit, maybe even into the shoulder. But at 65 you are just another body in the 100 car pile up.

They shut down the I-40 Sunday because of like 3-4 inches of snow. Three or 4 feet and I "get it," but not inches. It wasn't like this when I was young. We've created a nanny state where the majority are coddled from their first iphone to the grave.

Color me frustrated.
 
#20 ·
I don't disagree with this at all. I'm in a 1998 Suburban with 33's AT snow-rated, and have been out plenty in snowstorms and have had no issues. I can get to anywhere I need to.

My main thing is why I would need to go anywhere. As groups of people who consider themselves prepared, why would we need to be out in these storms. I can get needing to go to work/checking on an elderly member of family/neighbor, but unless you are involved in clearing roads or keeping power on, I would be sitting my butt at home. Even if I am 100% confident in my abilities to drive in the snow, all it takes is 1 patch of black ice/hidden obstacle to take out even the biggest/most snow-capable vehicle and put you in a ditch. Then, if it's like my county and exacted a tow ban, you're not getting your vehicle pulled out. That means you then have to find a way out on your own, or become another liability for someone else to come and get out.

Again, I don't disagree, as a prepared individual(s) we are a bit more suited to being out and about than your average person, but if there's no reason to be out for a requirement, I don't think anyone should be going out.
 
#24 ·
Live atop a mountain in Vermont just had 9” two days ago and getting up to a foot tonight into tomorrow. And it’s really blowing. Much as our lifestyle it’s about preparation. Have several vehicle’s outfitted with Goodyear duratrac radial studded snows that and attention to speed and conditions leaving now to meet a past client for dinner but usually try not to travel during storms
 
#25 ·
1. STAY HOME

Did I mention STAY HOME
I don't know why this is hard for some people. Most people think they're good drivers and they are not. It's interesting psychology but people dramatically over estimate their own abilities and in the case of driving in bad weather it can cost you or others their life. It's rarely the person with with a healthy fear that goes into the ditch. It's the people with a 4x4 and winter tires who thinks physics somehow just don't apply them. The smart ones realize that the first time they end up in a ditch, accident or with a ticket.
 
#26 · (Edited)
I've done 2.5 x 360' spins on a highway entrance ramp in a Toyota Tacoma 4WD with manual locking hubs that I engaged before leaving my driveway. 4WD doesn't mean snot on ice. I kept it on the pavement, recovered as I entered the merge lane for the highway, and proceeded on to work my shift.

I've ended up in the ditch in the middle of the night during a snowstorm when I suddenly, unexpectedly and mysteriously found myself, with no notice, 'on call.' I walked home by myself, through the ice and snow, in the dark, because the tow truck wouldn't be there for hours.

Given enough notice, I've spent the night 'sleeping' on stretchers in semi-public areas at work (us peons weren't afforded the luxury of call rooms.) It sucked but it was better than ending up in the ditch.

Given enough notice and the right circumstances I've/we've given up my paycheck for that period of time to rent a hotel room closer to the hospital, where roads were far likelier to be cleared, treated and passable, so that I could get some off shift privacy, sleep and a shower, and yet insure that I could get to work. It wasn't even worth it if I was on call. Those were 'sleep on the stretcher at work' nights.

Not everybody out there is screwing around.

If you don't have to be on the road, stay at home, don't complicate life for those who do have to be out there.

It is one of the deepest luxuries of my life now to stay at home during inclement weather.
 
#34 ·
I've done 2.5 x 360' spins on a highway entrance ramp in a Toyota Tacoma 4WD with manual locking hubs that I engaged before leaving my driveway. 4WD doesn't mean snot on ice. I kept it on the pavement, recovered as I entered the merge lane for the highway, and proceeded on to work my shift.
Yeah, when I lived in the Sierra Nevada one time I was at a stop sign, turning onto a slight hill (luckily slight...) I started out, made the turn - and just kept on turning. Luckily a couple of cars coming up the road saw what was going on and got way over. I actually waved at one as I passed, sliding backward. Did a couple of 360's then hit a non frozen area, the truck straightened out, in my lane facing down hill. Carried on like nothing happened. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
#31 ·
We hunker down and feast on french toast. We are in west Michigan and get lake snow. Since we retired, we don’t go out until the snowplows make headway. Both our trucks are 4x4 and have snow rated tires, but there are times where there is no getting out. A year ago, on Christmas Eve, we got 24” in 24 hrs with drifts.

We are set up with a generator and have backups of the most common stuff. There are several generators in our area by the sound. Have not seen any abominable snow zombies yet.

Staying home is our best (and only) choice. Similar situation at the cabin.
 
#32 ·
The east side of the Great Lakes and the UP see this type of “blizzard” often. Winds come off the lakes with some fury and carry warm moisture which freezes when it hits land and bam, windy snow. Patience is key. Don’t do 60 down hill and expect to stop in 1/4 mile. Start slowing, depending on conditions, a half mile away. This storm week is just another week in Michigan.
 
#35 ·
Almost 40F today and going to be -27F friday night, Snow blowing around now and then.
Love living in central montana..
Real snow tires with studs on all four wheeels and if it isn't four wheel drive like my little toyota pickup I have enough weight in the back to sink the springs down and give it some traction..

looking forward to the cold so I can go outside and throw a cup of hot water in the air and have it turn into a icy cloud.
 
#36 · (Edited)
As a young buck in 78 I put my Blazer in a ditch when I realized I was on black ice and a whole lot of creeping vehicles just a head. I was probably doing 45 so I didn't bury it deep but saved
a whole lot of misery for the people ahead.
A fellow 4X4 from the other direction stopped and pulled me out just about as fast as I went in.
Funny thing I had just pulled another out about 10 miles back.
I grew up some after that close call.