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I was raised in New York in the suburbs work in New York City semi retired move to Florida, I hate it here, looking to relocate. I am tired of the rat race in the materialistic views of people and find here in Florida. We all have to get back to basics most of us here know that due to what's coming in our economic situation others and I find out soon enough .Funny thing is that new about this situation two years ago, but now the caught in a trap. I sold my business, having a hard time selling my house, and I know I need to get the hell out of here. I'm looking for a place where to raise my kids in a place like Mayberry on a small farm for looking at different states. So many to choose from I would like peoples opinions of the best places to live in the United States to be self-sufficient, and not totally off the grid or can be off the grid if SH** hits the fan I'm a hunter and in my I background, I can easily take care of myself if need to I am not a total cityfolk, but have a lot to learn as far as farming goes.Would appreciate some input. Thank you
 

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Iowa is the Pig & Corn capital. I like it here. Nobody around. No offense, and I realize it's not the only places in the states, but Texas has some big cities along the coast, Dallas/FW, etc. Missouri has St. Louis & Kansas City. Our biggest, is, well, Des Moines. It's about as small as you can get in US and still have lots to do. As for farming, take you pick of land. All the soil is black and rich, and we have 3 times as much pigs as people. I've always said if pigs could vote...

Edit: And don't forget about natural disasters too. Nuclear war we are about the last place to get hit too. Just saying.

Edit edit: You can get good farm land, rich soil, with trees and near a stream for around $3,500 an acre or less. Lots of 40 acre plots all over. Cedar Rapids and Quad Cities are nice, so is Souix City and Dubuque. No offense to those there, but Waterloo is best avoided.
 

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I wish I had an answer for you. I was born and raised in souther California. After the Rodney King riots in LA, I got the hell out of Dodge. I decided to move to a nice, quaint little town in Missouri. The name of the town was El Dorado Springs. Doesn't that sound like a Mayberry sort of place? Population 3000, approximately. Turned out that about 50% of the town folks were Crystal Meth demons. My home ended up getting broken in to and one of my guns stolen among other things. I did recover my gun but learned a great lesson. Don't assume that some small town in the middle of nowhere is going to be all roses. Do some real checking before moving anywhere. I'm now in the beautiful and safe town of Denver, CO. I'm still trying to learn the language.
 
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I'm in the same situation here in florida. I got a down payment on land in missouri. Now if this damm land would sell here...........
 

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don't make it Vegas Baby!!!!

I can tell you where NOT to be...HERE! Las Vegas...This is the suck-hole cesspool of America.
I've lost tastebuds from this heat. Average rainfall= .02"/annual
and when it does decide to dump any amount of water....it's like a cow pissin' on a flat rock! There's no ground absorption and the results are devestating floods. Of course they only come once a blue moon. And the flooding is over with in a matter of hours. Then it goes back to being the hot, dry, life-sucking desert again.

You cannot have a farm here- don't even try. This IS the foreclosure capital of the nation. As well as the marriage & divorce capital. This is a melting pot of morons, bad drivers, bad parents, bad schools, gamblers, hookers, drug lords, politicians, movie stars, this list goes on.

The only saving grace in this city is annual income for those fortunate enough to still have their jobs. And it's going to get mighty unemployed around here soon. We have nuke waste dumping grounds just a hop, skip & a jump over the hill at Yucca Mt. There is a HUGE bullseye on our "sin city" for a terrorist attack. Our lake is transforming into a scum pond. They recently found a 9ft Florida alligator in our lake. Isn't that wonderful??? Maybe it ate the 18ft boa that was sighted a few weeks back.

It's nothing but tract home living as far as the eye can see. You can reach out and touch your neighbor's house with your tongue. You have no yard to speak of, and it's encouraged to have "rock landscaping" instead of grass. If you want grass...they sell it by the yard and it's artificial. Or you can paint your rocks green. It helps. Want to take a nice dip in your pool? Dress appropriately- at least five adjacent neighbors can watch your every move. There is NO PRIVACY HERE.

rant over.:mad: don't make this your hobbyfarm or bug out desination. Come see the nightlife, stop by Ethel M Chocolate Factory....and do a drive by Wayne Newon's place (corner of Sunset & Pecos....very Vegas) then go back to your green grass, fertile soil and big green trees.........'cuz all you see here is brown.:mad:
 

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Not New England! Okay, I actualy think it is great but have no desire for anyone esle to move here. Good luck.
 

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i used to live in sin city got my start there in the casino work them
i used to think it was a ok city intill i went back for a school that i had to go to for the
for my job
now i wonder how did i survive that place with all the crazy people there now
 

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North east Ohio- cost of living is very low, rainfall is consistant and plentiful, soil is good for planting... Winters suck, but the rest of the year is nice. No major natural disasters are terribly common (we get the occasional tornado- and some flooding- and that's about it...)
 

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I can tell you where NOT to be...HERE! Las Vegas...This is the suck-hole cesspool of America.
I've lost tastebuds from this heat. Average rainfall= .02"/annual
and when it does decide to dump any amount of water....it's like a cow pissin' on a flat rock! There's no ground absorption and the results are devestating floods. Of course they only come once a blue moon. And the flooding is over with in a matter of hours. Then it goes back to being the hot, dry, life-sucking desert again.

You cannot have a farm here- don't even try. This IS the foreclosure capital of the nation. As well as the marriage & divorce capital. This is a melting pot of morons, bad drivers, bad parents, bad schools, gamblers, hookers, drug lords, politicians, movie stars, this list goes on.

The only saving grace in this city is annual income for those fortunate enough to still have their jobs. And it's going to get mighty unemployed around here soon. We have nuke waste dumping grounds just a hop, skip & a jump over the hill at Yucca Mt. There is a HUGE bullseye on our "sin city" for a terrorist attack. Our lake is transforming into a scum pond. They recently found a 9ft Florida alligator in our lake. Isn't that wonderful??? Maybe it ate the 18ft boa that was sighted a few weeks back.

It's nothing but tract home living as far as the eye can see. You can reach out and touch your neighbor's house with your tongue. You have no yard to speak of, and it's encouraged to have "rock landscaping" instead of grass. If you want grass...they sell it by the yard and it's artificial. Or you can paint your rocks green. It helps. Want to take a nice dip in your pool? Dress appropriately- at least five adjacent neighbors can watch your every move. There is NO PRIVACY HERE.

rant over.:mad: don't make this your hobbyfarm or bug out desination. Come see the nightlife, stop by Ethel M Chocolate Factory....and do a drive by Wayne Newon's place (corner of Sunset & Pecos....very Vegas) then go back to your green grass, fertile soil and big green trees.........'cuz all you see here is brown.:mad:


been there lots of times, different times of the year. seen it progress from where it was 30 years ago. you're right! it's NOT the same town. i think the housing market there where you are stems from the bad housing market in S. California. the bubble DID pop afterall. if you hate Vegas so much, why don't you get out? course, none of my business. hilarious post though, thanks:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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I grew up in New York. Joined military traveled a lot coast to coast. Got out lived in Florida for 4yrs got tired of that fast. Decided to try North Carolina. I have 4 acres 30 miles east of Raleigh and don't plan on leaving anytime soon. Live in the country and work in the city.....
 
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