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yeah i have plenty of bic lighters but eventually they will run out so i was thinking long term....anybody know of any other good ones besides swedish firesteel and blastmatch that are good?
Ferro rods, Blastmatch, titanium blocks and such will run out also. In fact, a Bic might have more starts in it in comparison.

Any good ferrocerium rod with a piece of hacksaw blade will make a great firestarter. I tend to like the Blastmatch myself, but the market is full of good alternatives.

There's something to be said for flint and steel too. The world is full of rocks that spark. But they take a lot more practice since the sparks are smaller and not as hot.
 
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