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If I understand this correctly the democrats have a majority in the house.
The republicans are in the minority in the house.
Why then if the democrats want the bailout plan do they not just vote it through?
It could well be that these people will be in charge come next year and yet they seem unable to make a decision.
Watching the news coverage over here it seems the only people with the balls to reject plan are the republicans and it is their guy putting forward the plan.
It looks like the USA are in a bad way. God knows what would happen if TSHTF for real?
 

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Reid says "This is no time for Presidential politics" then he says McCain has only stood in front of the cameras and been no help and that Obama's plan is the way to go. He says it could have been avoided some time back if Bush would have helped them instead of block them. Pelosi says Dems are NOT responsible mfor any of this mess.

Can anyone see the only ones in front of the camera's grandstanding are the dems? That they won't do anything unless its THEIR way and blame the repubs because they won't fold.

They make me sick.....
 

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WHEN THE F IS ENOUGH ENOUGH?
THEY HAVENT EVEN GOTTEN ONE HAND OUT OF OUR POCKETS W THIS BOONDOGLDEAL AS THEY ARE STICKING THE OTHER HAND IN OUR POCKETS ALREADY

YEA IM SCREAMIN ---- IM PISSED

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dems-seek-a-further-56-billion-2008-09-25.html
Dems seek a further $56 billion
By J. Taylor Rushing
Posted: 09/25/08 08:10 PM [ET]

Senate Democratic leaders unveiled their $56 billion economic stimulus package on Thursday, less than an hour before leaving to meet President Bush at the White House to continue the fragile negotiations on the financial rescue bill.

Calling it “an economic recovery package that will help middle-class families struggling in the weakening Bush-McCain economy,” Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) pitched the plan with the familiar mantra of “not forgetting Main Street.” The plan includes a $7.5 billion down payment on $25 billion in loans for the struggling auto industry.
 

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If I understand this correctly the democrats have a majority in the house.
The republicans are in the minority in the house.
Why then if the democrats want the bailout plan do they not just vote it through?
It could well be that these people will be in charge come next year and yet they seem unable to make a decision.
Watching the news coverage over here it seems the only people with the balls to reject plan are the republicans and it is their guy putting forward the plan.
It looks like the USA are in a bad way. God knows what would happen if TSHTF for real?
It looks as if this is something that the politicians knew was coming and they have just been holding their breaths until it did. Now that it has happened they are trying to prolong what is inevitable with this Bailout. Times are about to get hard and even if you can provide for your family, you are going to have to be looking over your shoulder for those who can not. “God may know what would happen if TSHTF” but I am afraid that we will also, very shortly!
 

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Reid says "This is no time for Presidential politics" then he says McCain has only stood in front of the cameras and been no help and that Obama's plan is the way to go. He says it could have been avoided some time back if Bush would have helped them instead of block them. Pelosi says Dems are NOT responsible mfor any of this mess.

Can anyone see the only ones in front of the camera's grandstanding are the dems? That they won't do anything unless its THEIR way and blame the repubs because they won't fold.

They make me sick.....
I hear it both ways- that it's the republicans who are doing the grandstanding and refusing to compromise and work together constructively. Fact of the matter is that the truth is almost always somewhere in between. Methinks that this is such an extreme and colossal issue that *no one* can agree- republican, democrat doesn't matter- because no one wants to be left holding the bag and they're all crapping their drawers in fear.
 

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jaygriffIt looks like the USA are in a bad way. God knows what would happen if TSHTF for real?[/QUOTE said:
NEXT.....cry for a third party.......hmmmm ya mean, ya haven't figuredout the conspiracy is in control...hmmmmm
 

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If I understand this correctly the democrats have a majority in the house.
The republicans are in the minority in the house.
Why then if the democrats want the bailout plan do they not just vote it through?
It could well be that these people will be in charge come next year and yet they seem unable to make a decision.
Watching the news coverage over here it seems the only people with the balls to reject plan are the republicans and it is their guy putting forward the plan.
It looks like the USA are in a bad way. God knows what would happen if TSHTF for real?
Actually, jay, we have one party with two faces. Both so-called parties are run by the exact same group. They all attend the same functions; they all belong to the same clubs; they're all members of the Council on Foreign relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg group. Did you know that both George Bush Sr. and Jr. (Republicans) are members of the Skull and Bones Society? Guess what, the Democrat, John Kerry is a member as well.

If you did a trace of family trees, you would find that the elite Republicans are related to the elite Democrats. We're not in a battle between the Republicans and the Democrats. We're in a battle between the power elite and the common man.
 

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Actually, jay, we have one party with two faces. Both so-called parties are run by the exact same group. They all attend the same functions; they all belong to the same clubs; they're all members of the Council on Foreign relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg group. Did you know that both George Bush Sr. and Jr. (Republicans) are members of the Skull and Bones Society? Guess what, the Democrat, John Kerry is a member as well.

If you did a trace of family trees, you would find that the elite Republicans are related to the elite Democrats. We're not in a battle between the Republicans and the Democrats. We're in a battle between the power elite and the common man.
You have nailed it square on the head with this post! :thumb: It's about time someone called it for what it really is.
 

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Nancy Pelousy is first and foremost a political animal--she wants repub votes for election cover. they have the votes to pass it but not the gonads as usual to take a stand to which they may be held accountable and thrown from the lofty and rightful seat of power they feel they deserve.

120B for war funding, 30B buyout for Sachs, 200B+ Mac and Mae, 25B for big 3 auto (w/25B next year), global poverty initiative 186B, and now 700B this year and next,
85B AIG, 500B deficit projected
lets see now -- 1.8T+ already allocated to next years budget
thats a bit over half of last years budget (3.1T)--- all passed and needing to be funded
by budget in January (4 mo late). unless my math is fuzzy thats 4.9T+

tax cuts my ass
 

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They all attend the same functions; they all belong to the same clubs; they're all members of the Council on Foreign relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg group. Did you know that both George Bush Sr. and Jr. (Republicans) are members of the Skull and Bones Society? Guess what, the Democrat, John Kerry is a member as well.
I would include the bankers that own the Federal Reserve, but you are correct.
 

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Nancy Pelousy is first and foremost a political animal--she wants repub votes for election cover. they have the votes to pass it but not the gonads as usual to take a stand to which they may be held accountable and thrown from the lofty and rightful seat of power they feel they deserve.

120B for war funding, 30B buyout for Sachs, 200B+ Mac and Mae, 25B for big 3 auto (w/25B next year), global poverty initiative 186B, and now 700B this year and next,
85B AIG, 500B deficit projected
lets see now -- 1.8T+ already allocated to next years budget
thats a bit over half of last years budget (3.1T)--- all passed and needing to be funded
by budget in January (4 mo late). unless my math is fuzzy thats 4.9T+

tax cuts my ass
Now Mongoose...you know they have our best interest at heart. What I mean by "best interest" is the highest interest on our national debt in the history of mankind. Usually a world record is considered "the best.":eek:
 

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forgive my cynicism ---- i know its all "for the children" and "our common needs"

here take my wallet --- please
 

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Actually, jay, we have one party with two faces. Both so-called parties are run by the exact same group. They all attend the same functions; they all belong to the same clubs; they're all members of the Council on Foreign relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg group. Did you know that both George Bush Sr. and Jr. (Republicans) are members of the Skull and Bones Society? Guess what, the Democrat, John Kerry is a member as well.

If you did a trace of family trees, you would find that the elite Republicans are related to the elite Democrats. We're not in a battle between the Republicans and the Democrats. We're in a battle between the power elite and the common man.
if that's true why is everyone being McCain's water boy?
 

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forgive my cynicism ---- i know its all "for the children" and "our common needs"

here take my wallet --- please
They could take my wallet but I don't think they could sell it for much.
 

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if that's true why is everyone being McCain's water boy?
To be honest. People want to believe that their vote actually means something. We've been programmed from childhood that voting for the lesser of two evils is the American way (right there with apple pie and baseball). Everyone knows that we will get more of the same no matter who gets in office so the battle has come down to which candidate we hate the most. I hate Obama more than I hate McCain; therefore, McCain is the best man for the job. If it had come down to a choice between Hillary Clinton and Obama, I would vote for Obama because I hate Clinton more than Obama. See how it works?

We have a clear choice in Ron Paul but we allowed the media to convince us that he has no chance. What does America do when the media lies to us and we know they lied? Exactly...we believe it anyway.

There is a think tank in Washington that pays very close attention to America's national psychology. They can read us like a book. They develop a plan, put the plan in action, and we do exactly as expected. I'm personally embarrassed that we are such fools but what can a nobody purchase agent like myself do?

If you believe for one second that Obama is going to save us...you're as brainwashed as those you point your finger at.

We're lobsters. We're in very warm water. The water is getting hotter. It matters not if the cook is Obama or McCain, the water will soon be at a boil. If someone would just take this rubber band off of my claw....
 

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No matter what happens, one of these two guys will be sworn in. I have NOT even voted but twice in my life but the chance of the most left wing nut ever to come along being sworn in is just too much. Therefore I will vot McCain.

Nobama will be the most socialistic master we have ever known. Our rights will quickly be gone completely and then what? Revolution?
 
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