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Has anyone bought and used the Maxpedition pygmy falcon ll backpack? Are they a better quality pack than most others? I'm looking to get one and use as a travel pack and 1-2 day hiking pack. Will this pack do what I want it to do. This will be the first pack I'm buying so all the input you can give me would be deeply appreciated.



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i think you will find it a little small for anything longer than a day hike..where will your shelter go in/on the pack? or where is your sleepbag going to fit? sleep pad ..? also if you did manage to get all that you need for a overnight. will the pack be able to handle the weight.and 2 is it comfortable ? i could be wrong though .no doubt .. for the money you could get a bigger brandname pack on sale. or maybe even cheaper..looks to be a well built pack for sure.. if you think it works for you ..then go for it .its really about what works for you .not me or anyone else.
i recently ordered a new pack with the advice of one memeber here and avid backpacker.i wanted something large enough for a few days but yet light ,i went here
http://www.rei.com/outlet
called them and talked to them about fit and diff packs. rei and the advice from a memeber here got me pointed the way i wanted .all while getting a great deal ..
not ment to dicourage or confuse ..
 

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I have the Maxpedition pack in question and agree it is primarily a day pack. I own many Maxpedition products and find them built for longevity. Too bad they are made in China.
 

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I have the Maxpedition pack in question and agree it is primarily a day pack. I own many Maxpedition products and find them built for longevity. Too bad they are made in China.
how do you know its made in china? is there a tag on the backpack? cant find anything about china on their website.
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=2

i am thinking of getting 1 close to the one your looking at for a hunting pack. i didnt want a full back pack just basically a daypack and i figure one of these will foot the bill. i mainly wanted one that will last

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=12&idproduct=110
 

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It's clearly printed on each Maxpedition product "made in China". They try to spin it by saying materials made in U.S.A. Still assembled over there.
 

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I have a Camelback BFM that I use most of the time for 1-2 day hikes and i love it. It holds plenty of gear, has MOLLE attachment points, Hydration bladder, and the shoulder straps are well padded. I just strap my thermarest pad on top and go.:thumb:
 

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to be honest there are better packs out there i would rather spend 130$ on...that weigh half what that pack does and holds 2x as much ...just my .02 cents

look on campmor.com ...they have petty good deals on packs...or if u wanna spend the $$$$ get a Moonbow gearskin.....
Moonbow.com

or if Molle webbing is a must goto cheaper than dirt.com and get there knock off of that pack only 39$ alot of the reviews on the pack say it's a good pack...should check it out...would save u a few $$ u can get more gear then :thumb:
 

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to be honest there are better packs out there i would rather spend 130$ on...that weigh half what that pack does and holds 2x as much ...just my .02 cents

look on campmor.com ...they have petty good deals on packs...or if u wanna spend the $$$$ get a Moonbow gearskin.....
Moonbow.com

or if Molle webbing is a must goto cheaper than dirt.com and get there knock off of that pack only 39$ alot of the reviews on the pack say it's a good pack...should check it out...would save u a few $$ u can get more gear then :thumb:
i just dont trust the civilian back pack to hold up like the military ones do.

as far as those cheap ones at CTD. you really need to read them again about 1/2 give them a bad review that why they got 3 starz out of 5. and alot of them who gave it 4-5 starz hasnt had it out in the bush yet to test it.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/PACK120-1.html

i was looking at those at 1st, until i seen how cheap the shoulder straps are made. now i can see why they are so cheap.and why alot of complaints was about the straps. the whole reason im getting a new is because my cheap one started tearing at the straps after about 6 light uses. and i want ONE backpack that will outlast me, so i will never have to buy another one. and i dont want a FULL size backpack. i just need one to carry items while im hunting. not one that im going to live out of for 30 days. to me this seem about the right size if not a bit big.
 

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Not confused just wanting to get it right the first time. What pack did you buy from REI?




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this is the pack i ordered ..

http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/779466
i also have a large ALICE pack i like alot ..

you could try something like these ? and very good for the price ..
http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/00131.html
or this looks really cool also ..
http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/0206.html

bu imo if you are planning on backpacking ..go light as poss..but like someone elses just said campmor has great deals REI aswell .. but really if you want .the best way is to go to a outfitter and try some packs out .have the sales person ajust the pack for you .ect ect .i recently did this myself ..although i didnt have the cash to buy a pack at the time ,it gave me some good insight how a pack should fit .and how comfortable diff packs compare
 

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this is the pack i ordered ..

http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/779466
i also have a large ALICE pack i like alot ..

you could try something like these ? and very good for the price ..
http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/00131.html
or this looks really cool also ..
http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/0206.html

bu imo if you are planning on backpacking ..go light as poss..but like someone elses just said campmor has great deals REI aswell .. but really if you want .the best way is to go to a outfitter and try some packs out .have the sales person ajust the pack for you .ect ect .i recently did this myself ..although i didnt have the cash to buy a pack at the time ,it gave me some good insight how a pack should fit .and how comfortable diff packs compare
that 2nd one looked well made, may be worth looking more into it if your in the need for a FULL backpack. :thumb:

i just dont trust the civilian ones when you lighten them up to much you scrafice durablity. and to me durabilty is most important thing.

GREAT idea going to an outfitter :thumb:
 

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To His There Own.....
but do remember that the MP pack is heavy ...for hiking i would like others have also said go lite ....why kill yourself...thats just me
u can get a http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___65799
for 69$ and is a great pack on sale hold 1900 to 2100 CI and will hold up as long if not longer and is under 3 LBS and may work better for what u want that the MP pack
no pack will outlast u ....a pack will only last long, as long as it's treated good
 

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All of you have given me great info as to the type of pack I should get along with trying them before buying. My last question to all of you is wear and tear plus reliability, of all those mentioned which one is the toughest when taking weight into account.



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First, any Maxpedition gear is EXCELLENT for whatever you use it for. They are very well built, and well designed. Are they heavier than most? Yes. Are they more expensive than most? That could be debated.

The trick to picking the right Maxpedition pack for you is to know how much stuff you plan to pack. You can hang your tent and pad from the bottom and/or sides using the straps and MOLLE. It would be best to layout all of your stuff, then tightly pack it into a box and measure the cubic inches of space it takes up (do not include the tent or pad as these go on the outside) then call Maxpedition and they will help you choose. Doing all of your gear research at home first will make the biggest difference in all of the gear you choose, and most notably, why you choose it.

Based on the limited information you provided, the Condor II may be a better choice for you. However, I can get 3 days worth of stuff into the Pygmy FII, but I spent more money on quality, tightly packaged, lightweight equipment. An example: our sleeping bags (Softie 3 Merlin) compress to 7"x7", weighs 2lbs, and are good down to freezing temps. I based our family's pack carry loads on 20% of body weight not including guns and ammo.

You could never go wrong with Maxpedition provided you choose the right size for your needs.
 

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I really like the Maxpedition. My only concern is the empty weight plus gear for a 66 yr old man to carry. I have been viewing backcountryedge.com and there 2700-4300 cu in packs and have selected two that I like. They are the Kelty Grizzly 3000 and the Kelty Cache Hauler. Any chance you could take a look and tell me if you would buy either one? Thanks for your help.

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The Kelty Grizzly is a nice pack. though i'm not keen on the camo, but that's just personal taste. I myself use a High Sierra Summit 45 liter pack (or 2,750 cubic inches). This pack hauls everything I need for my travels around the world. And can even take it as a carry on on a plane (well usually. depends on whats in the pack and if i get an anal attendent).
 

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To His There Own.....
but do remember that the MP pack is heavy ...for hiking i would like others have also said go lite ....why kill yourself...thats just me
u can get a http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___65799
for 69$ and is a great pack on sale hold 1900 to 2100 CI and will hold up as long if not longer and is under 3 LBS and may work better for what u want that the MP pack
no pack will outlast u ....a pack will only last long, as long as it's treated good
im not to sure about a pack not out lasting me. ive got a med alice pack that i got when i was in the army 25yrs, ago and is still in great shape which i still use. i just want a smaller pack that zips up all pockets for hunting that i dont have to worry about it,when i hear a limb scraping up against it.or the straps breaking. i would really hate to be 2-4 miles from the truck and have the straps break.

all i can say is you do get what you pay for when it comes to backpacks, but you can buy smart :thumb:
 

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thats great to hear about your alice pack....but if u left it outside in the rain for a week ...i'm sure it would dry rot...what i'm getting at is ...as long as u take care of it...it will last u....so don't overlook a cheaper bag ....heck i could say the same for my 3 day hiking pack...it's a 50$ pack...and outlasted 2 150$ packs.....
 

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thats great to hear about your alice pack....but if u left it outside in the rain for a week ...i'm sure it would dry rot...what i'm getting at is ...as long as u take care of it...it will last u....so don't overlook a cheaper bag ....heck i could say the same for my 3 day hiking pack...it's a 50$ pack...and outlasted 2 150$ packs.....
actually ive had it on my back for 6 weeks straight in rain and snow during robin sage. not one problem :thumb: my pack NEVER gave me a problem i never had a 2nd thought about it. its not about treating it bad, its about it holding up to a full load. hopeing the straps dont break, or the seams dont pop.

i was one of the guerrilla's :thumb:

http://www.training.sfahq.com/article_final_exam_green_berets_02_10_27.htm

OMG i wouldnt want to go through that again !! it was hard but alot of fun also learned ALOT ,but OMG was it rough!
 
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