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had a random thought reading some of the post on this site and others. it seems to me that a good percentage of people have this presumption that if SHTF people would forget how to be neighborly. all these guys talking about if society crumble or the government fails , etc, that all of a suddene people are gonna lose there minds and start looking at everyone else as the enemy. Not a lot off people have this mentality but enough that makes me think i'll have to think twice before crossing through someones backlands in fear of residents shooting me because i might be some kinda lone wolf out to steal and all that. when that time comes, hopefully it never does, just remember im an American just like you with the same interests in mind; protecting my family, helping others, etc. so dont shoot my as*!
 

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had a random thought reading some of the post on this site and others. it seems to me that a good percentage of people have this presumption that if SHTF people would forget how to be neighborly. all these guys talking about if society crumble or the government fails , etc, that all of a suddene people are gonna lose there minds and start looking at everyone else as the enemy. Not a lot off people have this mentality but enough that makes me think i'll have to think twice before crossing through someones backlands in fear of residents shooting me because i might be some kinda lone wolf out to steal and all that. when that time comes, hopefully it never does, just remember im an American just like you with the same interests in mind; protecting my family, helping others, etc. so dont shoot my as*!
I don't think the decent people will forget how to be decent, I just think all the people that are already d***s will get even worse when they think they can get away with stuff.
 

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Right on, brother!
Anyone here remember the 70's with the lines at the gas stations and rationing? Remember how you could only get gas every other day, depending on whether your license plate's last number was odd or even? I remember as a kid the fathers on our block...all swapping license plates with each other so they could put their allotted 5 gallons in the tank every day...in retrospect it was really cool to see how organized everyone became so all the neighbors could "get theirs". As kids we had no idea how serious things were...as an adult that sense of community rings clear...
 

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Good people have always and will always be good. Bad people will get worse if the SHTF. Remember the LA riots after Rodney King? The decent folks stayed in their houses or on top of their businesses guarding what was theirs, The gang bangers and thugs looted, stole and burned everything they could. Innocents who happened to be in the wrong place were beaten, raped, killed or all three.
 

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I guess I learned hunkering down at an early age.
In 1964 , the first Watts riots, my mom and I had been in southern Oregon visiting my grandmother. We got back to West L.A. just in time to see the SHTF, in southcentral.
My mom asked me how many bullets I had for my pistol ? The one she wasn't supose to know about. I told her I had 20 rounds , so off to the gun store where she bought 2 boxes of 9mm and 2 extra mags plus 300 rounds of 22 LR for my rifle.
At 15 it's strange to look at the evening sky and see the glow of all the fires burning that part of town.
Hope that doesn't come to my home again........Alaskan

It's kind of strange, can't remember what those first riots were all about.
 

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the way I figure it its better to be prepared, just in case it does get really bad. when the water, power, police services, firefighters, etc stop working, what do you think is going to happen? it's all quess work till then
 

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The thing is, desperate situations bring out the worst in people. It's human nature. Even *Good* people can turn evil in times of severe desperation.

That is why it is best to position your self far enough out of the zone of disaster. That way the people you are around will not be desperate, and thus remain clear minded and ready to solve the problems in more rational ways.
 

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my hopes are that if the situation ever does occur that poeple take a second to remember all these things we're talking about. as an American, a neighbor, whatever the role, we should all have eachothers interests in mind as well as our own. i want to be able to depend on my fellow Americans not fear them like some are going to do.
 

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The way i see if the SHTF. I'm not going out robbing anyone. I only treat people the way i like to be treated. I have no problem if someone asks for something but stealing from me is something Else. I tell you this, you can't reason with the people that are going to be stealing, raping and what ever. If i come face to face with this problem i hope i do the right thing. I would protect my neighbors family like my own. Bad times is no excuse for bad behavior.
 

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One way to consider whether people will continue to be good and neighborly is to look at Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs. The first and foremost need that must be met before people can move on to the next is Physiological Needs. THis includes food and water. If these basic needs are not being met, then it will become the driving force behind people's behavior. Not that I think all people will become like animals, but when people in a spoiled society who have an abundance of everything lose even their most basic needs, we never know how they will react.

The second need is safety and security. Once their physiological needs are met, people will begin looking for order and structure. This may be when people begin to form groups, but it could also mean that any stranger is an imminent threat. I would also guess that during this phase, people will begin looking for better sheltering.

Only after the first two needs are met, will the third structre become important. THe need for affection and friends.

Maslow applied is theory not only to personal behavior but also to societies.
 

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Aren't we all Americans? No.
The board isn't only American.

Nevertheless, I do believe in being armed and ready to stand with decent people against gangs and looters. And to remember that not every stranger is an enemy. Just that they need watching.
 

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Paranoia has killed many people. I would be more wary of people for that reason than afraid of someone out to steal from me. Those that won't have anything and are out to get what isnt theirs will stand out like a sore thumb.
 

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During Katrina, you could understand a young mother coming out of store with a couple of packages of diapers , water and food for her babies.
Then you see a punk packing away a large screen TV. Waist deep in water with the dead floating by.
At that site I wish I could have chambered a round and made him another floater.
Looting is a problem we'll have to deal with. I hope we make the right call.....
 

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The president elect is a socialist (not American) raised as a foreign Muslim (not American) and anti-constitutional (not American.) So no, we are not all American, starting from the top down.
What makes socialism un-American? What would it matter if he were a Muslim? And what makes him anti-constitutional, except for his stance on 'assault' weapons.
 

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in my experiences with disasters, in many ways it makes neighbors more neighborly. At night when I wasnt on duty I would take a flashlight and sit in the pool in the courtyard and read. Everyone was hanging around outside and talking, playing chinese checkers and joking in spanish or cantonese ect. There were a few arguments, and a few rowdy moments where I thought I might have to use my "Universal Communicator of Authority" (racking my shotgun) to calm down the shouters.

But all in all people were more helpful and communicative of one another.
 
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What makes socialism un-American? What would it matter if he were a Muslim? And what makes him anti-constitutional, except for his stance on 'assault' weapons.
i agree with the socialist part, not even considering Mr. O a lot of things in this country resemble socialism.
 
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