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The Power of III
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I happened upon this during my reading over the past week and I'm posting it here to get the word out.

Many of you more well-versed in history than I am know that it was only about 3 percent of the population that fought and eventually won the American Revolution.

There is a movement underway today, spreading across the blogging world, to make that 3 percent a symbol for what we are all feeling about our society today - to have a way to quickly and concisely show those who think as we do that we are on the same side. A symbol of unity that could easily be used in communications, in writings, on clothing, etc... to quickly identify the "patriots" of this movement to uphold our constitutional rights.

A symbol that could be used to unite us as one in our common cause of liberty, so to speak. A very simple symbol to remember those before us and unite those today: "III" or a "3"

Here are a couple of blogs that give the details much better than I can expand on here.

This blog talks about how the "V" was originated and how the "III" symbol could be similarly used today, without all the emotional baggage that now comes with the "V" symbol (peace, Nixon, etc., etc.)

Western Rifle Shooters Association

Here is a blogger who has already designed a patch and has them for sale for a great price - only $4

Wolf Tracks - Three Percenter Patch
 

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I'm no expert on the American Revolution by any stretch as I am a product of Public Education.

However, my understanding was by the end of the war, they had 3% of the population, which to me, would suggest they started with 1%, built to 2%, and finally to 3%.

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm off with this.
I'll let you all guess if I'm part of the 3%. :cool:
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I'll admit I'm a rather ignorant on this subject. 3%? That's all? Interesting. But I'm assuming that the non-combat supporters of the Revolution had a fairly high percentage?

I consider myself a supporter of the cause... but I'm in no position to become a militant combat person. My concern about today vs yesteryear is... they didn't have telephones, fast vehicles and internet to 'tip off' the law that there's an 'armed terrorist' living next door.

The communication technology back then, is nothing compared to what we have today. I'm thinking that decreases our odds of success?

Interesting idea. I'll check out the site. Thanks
 

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I've heard that theory before about only 3% of the population was involved in the Revolutionary War. The guy that originally brought that up was an anti-war east coast professor at some place like Yale or Harvard. Right from when he suggested that the Revolutionary War involved only 3% of the American population most other historians discounted the idea. I think that this was the same guy who claimed that at the time of the Revolutionary War only 5% of the houses in the U.S. had firearms in them "because guns were unpopular back then too." Again, that idea was also discounted. We'll never really know for sure but, in some areas, when the Minute Men got called out almost 100% of the area's manpower showed up to shoot it out with the British. Look at Concord and Lexington as examples, in general, of how much support there really was for the Revolutionary War. I tend to think that only about 3% were against the war which is why the number of Tories were so small in the first place. After the Revolutionary War, a small number of people who were not loyal to the patriotic cause were forced to leave the area along our east coast and go live in Canada. Many of those that refused to move, died at the hands of vengeful patriots and war veterans. I think that whoever came up with the 3% estimate had an ulterior motive of some sort as if to prove that war is unpopular, etc. Heck, maybe they were trying for a grant of some sort from the National Endowment to get money to produce a historical theatrical show of some sort that didn't involve rubbing fecal matter on their bodies or something to call it art or history....
 

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No less than 4 of my ancestors fought in the American Revolution. It certainly is not due to the fact that my ancestors inbred (which of course they did not). How would it be possible for 4 of my ancestors to have done this (and I have it all on record along with my ancestry charts) if only 3% of the population at the time was involved?

I call foul on this one.
 

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Still the idea is great. This board, and the thousands like it in the US need to come to a consensus and agree on a patch. I would go so far as to include the Ron Paul supporters and the Glenn Beck supporters. After all, during our revolution not all agreed with each others ideology but all agreed on freedom.
 

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I agree - the purpose of this post was not to discuss whether or not historically it was 3 percent participation or not - but to find a common symbol that could be easily recognized and quickly created that would be popular enough to unite those of us who are all thinking the same thing and just don't seem to be cohesive enough yet to make an impact. There is lots of talking and sharing ideas on the internet, but nothing taking a firm presence - perhaps a symbol like this could help.
 

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I don't have a problem with a unifying symbol. I think it's a good idea. I would like that symbol to be reflective of and respectful towards the history we are attempting to preserve and the history being created for the generations to come. Many times, historical fact gets pushed to the side in favor of popular myth. A good example of this is "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere."
 

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Herd Sniper,
The 3% figure was also cited as a statistic by Lt. Colnel Grossman in in his publication on killing. Now whether he was drawing on existing stats or doing his own reasearch is another matter entirely...
For those of you in groups or belonging to a militia, neither of which I belong to or have a desire to belong to. Let me give you a word of advice, open displays of unity are an invitation to intervention by law enforcement...You may care you may not...Take free advice for its what its worth...
 

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No less than 4 of my ancestors fought in the American Revolution. It certainly is not due to the fact that my ancestors inbred (which of course they did not). How would it be possible for 4 of my ancestors to have done this (and I have it all on record along with my ancestry charts) if only 3% of the population at the time was involved?
I call foul on this one.

There were far fewer people living in America then there are now. Also, without all the immigrants from other countries (like now) most all of us were either native American or off one of the ships from England. Most of us originals are direct descendants of these 2 groups (like myself) as I also have ancestors who signed the DOI. Something tells me your ancestors aren't from Italy. ;)

Regardless, color me in. Where do I sign?
 

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Make it mainstream

For those of you in groups or belonging to a militia, neither of which I belong to or have a desire to belong to. Let me give you a word of advice, open displays of unity are an invitation to intervention by law enforcement...You may care you may not...Take free advice for its what its worth...
Remember who was running the show when Waco and Ruby Ridge occured...Heres a hint it wasn't Republicans...
I agree that on a small scale there could be some concern. But you know, we keep hearing about all these groups that are trying to rally support around Obama - like the Project Canvass - these socialists have no fear openly advertising and going around promoting their agendas . . .

If there could be enough wide-spread acceptance of something like this type of symbol for those that support a return to the Constitution we should be able to overcome some of the "fear-factor" about becoming a target of law enforcement, etc. We have a right to express our opinions too. This shouldn't be reserved just for those in "groups" or "militias" - but it should get out there in the mainstream.

If you get all the Glenn Beck people, Ron Paul people, Chuck Norris people, people in "survival" groups, people on their own - the whole Constitution-supporting crowd accepting something like this, making it mainstream, then it could be a huge force for unity among a large group of like-minded people that are currently struggling to find a unifying voice that represents them.
 

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Remember who was running the show when Waco and Ruby Ridge occured...Heres a hint it wasn't Republicans..
No,not Waco, however it was a republican admin. during Ruby Ridge massacre. Bush senior , if you want to spew, make sure you know WTF you're talking about.
 

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It'll take more than a patch to get something done about our present situation. Sure you'll get a few armchair commandos who are eating doritos in front of their computer saying "count me in", but that will be the limit of their support.
 

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even the modern military only a small percentage is considered front line troops the rest are support troops supplying the goods for those on the line dont think it was any differant back then someone had to grow the food to feed them make there clothes and give them supplys and arms to keep them going.i had a relitive that was at the battle of saratoga.there was a military patch during ww2 with a III on it for third army core i think.i would think they could be found or made.
 

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"...the lower classes in Britain used the palm-in two-finger salute as an insult".

LOL the lower classes!:D:

I find it amazing and can't really believe that Churchill didn't know the sign with palm in meant f### off.
 

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No comparison at all between America today and America before the revolution.
America wasn't even a country then and had no government, No LEO, No welfare everyone took care of themselves. no anything except English rule.
we had basicly one race and one religion except for the indians. you try to get more than fifty people to stick together today and see what happends. it sounds good, but it'll never happen and the government knows it.
 
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