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Does anyone not believe that all Americans should have the same rights as guaranteed by the Constitution? If so, why not?
 

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People should have to take competency tests to reproduce and vote.

If we are all truly equal, there should be no special treatment because of you skin color. There should be no NAACP, BET, JET magazine, Black History Month, Affirmative Action, Welfare, etc, etc, etc.
 

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Yes and NO!!!!!!!!!

If a person is not educated on the matters at hand, they should not be voting. Even though they can, they should not. An uneducated voting public are like sheep being led to the slaughter. Why do you think the president is not elected by popular vote? Its because the people at the time were not educated on important issues.

Lets take the bail out of wall street, how many people voted for, and re-elected their official that voted for the bail out? Everyone that did, should not be allowed to vote ever again.

To answer your question, yes. Certain uneducated sheep that should never be allowed into enter a voting booth.
 

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Just a question ok?
Isaw on the news at Obamas victory thingy, a sea of white faces, white folk who voted for him. How many(I wonder) black folk voted for Mc Caine.
Answers below please.
 

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If we are all truly equal, there should be no special treatment because of you skin color.

There should be no NAACP, BET, JET magazine, Black History Month, Affirmative Action, Welfare, etc, etc, etc.
OK Boyscout, looks like we have to go back to school here, civics lesson:

You are correct in the first statement that we are all equal. And part of me agrees with you that "there should be a test".....

However, you are so very wrong on your opinion about NAACP, BET and JET.

All three are protected forms of FREE SPEECH, AKA: the 1st Ammendment.

I agree with you that Afirmative action, wlefare, etc. is a bunch of B.S., funded by us, the taxpayers.

And KWANZAA Is a big flipping joke as it is based on untruths and manufature by a 1960's radical. I hate having it crammed down my throat myself.

BUT remember this, you are enjoying free speech right now!

And I'd like you to also consider this, barring the NAACP, BET and JET would be EXACTLY a SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/NAZI type of thing.

If black people have no free speech, then neither should you. If they can't express themselves because they are black, then you can't express yourself because of your skin color.

It's not a black/white thing.....it's an US thing and we all are entitled to our Constitutional Rights.

You don't have to agree with someone else's message, but you have no right to say that are not entitled to express that message.

And just remember this, the Second Ammendment ENSURES all the other rights in all the other Ammendments.

Myself, being in the military, I imay not agree with what you have to say, but I took an oath and I will support YOUR right to say it, to the death if necessary !
 

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argh.... that was awful.

as far as I can tell, even most blacks dont take Kwanzaa seriously
 

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OK Boyscout, looks like we have to go back to school here, civics lesson:

You are correct in the first statement that we are all equal. And part of me agrees with you that "there should be a test".....

However, you are so very wrong on your opinion about NAACP, BET and JET.

All three are protected forms of FREE SPEECH, AKA: the 1st Ammendment.

I agree with you that Afirmative action, wlefare, etc. is a bunch of B.S., funded by us, the taxpayers.

And KWANZAA Is a big flipping joke as it is based on untruths and manufature by a 1960's radical. I hate having it crammed down my throat myself.

BUT remember this, you are enjoying free speech right now!

And I'd like you to also consider this, barring the NAACP, BET and JET would be EXACTLY a SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/NAZI type of thing.

If black people have no free speech, then neither should you. If they can't express themselves because they are black, then you can't express yourself because of your skin color. AND I CAN'T

It's not a black/white thing.....it's an US thing and we all are entitled to our Constitutional Rights.

You don't have to agree with someone else's message, but you have no right to say that are not entitled to express that message.

And just remember this, the Second Ammendment ENSURES all the other rights in all the other Ammendments.

Myself, being in the military, I imay not agree with what you have to say, but I took an oath and I will support YOUR right to say it, to the death if necessary !

That's all fine and dandy, and I agree. But, how long would it be before I was labeled a racist and hunted down if I were to create an NAAWP, Cloud magazine, White Entertainment Television, or White History Month? The answer to that question is the problem and reinforces that we are not all equal. Those who are not equal, are not the ones who typically cry about it.
 

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OK Boyscout, looks like we have to go back to school here, civics lesson:

You are correct in the first statement that we are all equal. And part of me agrees with you that "there should be a test".....

However, you are so very wrong on your opinion about NAACP, BET and JET.

All three are protected forms of FREE SPEECH, AKA: the 1st Ammendment.

I agree with you that Afirmative action, wlefare, etc. is a bunch of B.S., funded by us, the taxpayers.

And KWANZAA Is a big flipping joke as it is based on untruths and manufature by a 1960's radical. I hate having it crammed down my throat myself.

BUT remember this, you are enjoying free speech right now!

And I'd like you to also consider this, barring the NAACP, BET and JET would be EXACTLY a SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/NAZI type of thing.

If black people have no free speech, then neither should you. If they can't express themselves because they are black, then you can't express yourself because of your skin color.

It's not a black/white thing.....it's an US thing and we all are entitled to our Constitutional Rights.

You don't have to agree with someone else's message, but you have no right to say that are not entitled to express that message.

And just remember this, the Second Ammendment ENSURES all the other rights in all the other Ammendments.

Myself, being in the military, I imay not agree with what you have to say, but I took an oath and I will support YOUR right to say it, to the death if necessary !
Thank you and thank you for protecting us.
 

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as George once said- "White people GIVE people the blues, not get them.." I just dont think id care to be so involved with my COLOR that id want to read a magazine about it...
 

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I love when people get up in arms over their rights being restricted but turn around and say that people can't vote because of their personal ideologies.
 

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I'm not saying that people should not be allowed to vote because of their ideologies. They shouldn't be allowed to vote because of their IQ. Ignorance is not an excuse.
 

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Just a question ok?
Isaw on the news at Obamas victory thingy, a sea of white faces, white folk who voted for him. How many(I wonder) black folk voted for Mc Caine.
Answers below please.
Did you read the Beeld news paper about three weeks ago? Black people cannot work as a team member, make good decisions, take criticism the list was never ending and the list wasn’t made by white South Africans, it was made by the world medical association. The new US president may have white in him but he also has BLACK in him. PT138.:mad:
 

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We are not born equal but we can become equal......is up to you what you do with your life and future.

Came from Cuba with a guitar on my back and a $10.00 bill in my pocket and look where I am today.
 

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But, how long would it be before I was labeled a racist and hunted down if I were to create an NAAWP, Cloud magazine, White Entertainment Television, or White History Month? The answer to that question is the problem and reinforces that we are not all equal. Those who are not equal, are not the ones who typically cry about it.
Actually Bro, there is an NAAWP, and yes, they are called racist.

I'm not disagreeing with you there. And you are correct, the NAZI-LIBS call anyone who does not embrace the "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" as racist, even if they say the EXACT same thing (IE: NAAWP example above).

The point I was trying to make was that the 1st Ammendment is a right.....for now.....
 

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There already is one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_White_People

I don't know how active they are anymore.

-Cade
whoa Cade. I think it's kind of hard to call yourself a non-racist group when your founder is David Duke, and you are labeled a "White Nationalist group"

I personally am sick and tired of special recognition of color. I am tired of seeing hundreds of groups like the Congressional Black Caucus, and such who's sole purpose is the advancement of Black ideology, and issues important to the black community. Now replace black with any groups name, like gay, Hispanic, or other racial type groups. As a white man, I feel that the issues affecting them, are affecting all of us.

This is such a touchy subject, and one that can easily turn into a flame war, but I do feel strongly about it. I consider myself Pro-Equal opportunity. Everyone has and equal opportunity to gain my respect or disdain.
 
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