[UserNameTaken]

Sometimes I just open the safes to look at the guns and smell the gun oil. And I'm okay with that.
Never enough. 😁

Yes, once in awhile I just take a couple out to fondle and oil. With ammo so high who can afford to shoot 'em anymore?

I have a DPMS - for when you need to shoot someone hiding behind a refrigerator, inside your neighbors house. It's heavy, but with a .308 you don't gotta repeat yourself.

 

[1911Glock]

I wish I had an AR-10. I lost mine in a boating accident, just like half the members in here. 🤣

Boats and Survialistboards members just don’t mix. We are jinxed.

 

[Uteguy]

Considering that the AR10 and 7.62 NATO are around 70 years old…
and the 30-06 is over 100, as are the 9MM Para, and 45 ACP, etc..
I don’t think they are going to be outdated any time soon. Just sayin’.

 

[hanzy4200]

There's only one .308 battle rifle I know of I would consider for my primary. FN SCAR. It's light, super accurate, and extremely reliable. The others, like the AR-10, CETME, ect, are just to bulky for me. Then again I am 5'5". You do you. Ammo loadout for a .308 is HEAVY.

 

[Skynet17]

The usefulness of AR10s and .308 will outlive everyone on this board.

Besides, WWIV (we are in WWIII now) will be fought with sticks and stones.

 

[wellsray772]

AR-10 Pattern rifles would be very servicable as a SHTF rifle. The 7.62x51/308 Winchester aint going anywhere any time soon. I retired as a weapons tech in 2006 and we were still using the heck out of 7.62x51 and had more pallets of it than I could count. My Homies still on active duty tell me very little has changed! All of the Armories I worked in had racks of M-14's although we had more M4's. A MBR in 7.62x51 is a great combo if your in a static defensive position or in a area of operations where shots at longer ranges are the norm or barricaded hostiles are your target. If your kicking in doors, in a urban environment and on the move there are better options in my opinion/experience. MBR's are heavy generally speaking, the ammo is heavier and the recoil is much stouter although managable by most shooters with experience.

In Afghanistan we generally had M4's and at longer ranges we generally encountered they left a lot to be desired. On the next supply run from the ship I grabbed a few of our M-14's and they performed much better at the extended ranges we often were in, even better than the MK-12 Mod 0's with the 77 gr loads. In Fallujah, the M4's were a much better weapon as the fighting was pretty close in and we usually had a couple of DM's with us.

Look at your situation and choose appropriately. I own several MBR's from my earlier days as a prepper, and love them. I still have them today but I reach for one of my AR-15 in one flavor or another more than I do my MBR's. Different tools for different jobs...

 

[Bravo32]

AR's in .308 can be great. I have a 20" AR .308 that I have assembled and it is a great shooter. As others have said, heavy though. It would not be my choice to bug out with. I have a couple AR15's that I would choose instead. If ammo availability was not an issue, I would take my 18" 6.5 Grendel instead for the sake of much less weight and similar performance.
If you can get a lighter weight 16" AR in .308, then it can certainly work.

 

[mikosovich]

if youre big enough to carry the thing and use it without getting fatigued, then yes, great rifle.

 

[ajole]

There's only one .308 battle rifle I know of I would consider for my primary. FN SCAR. It's light, super accurate, and extremely reliable. The others, like the AR-10, CETME, ect, are just to bulky for me. Then again I am 5'5". You do you. Ammo loadout for a .308 is HEAVY.

I’ll see your 7.9 lb SCAR and raise you a 16” 6.8 lb Ruger SFAR. Or the 20” 7.3 lb model.
Adjustable Magpul Carbine stock, AR compatible CH, trigger and safety. About $1100.

 

[bighanded]

still have my Armalite AR10. I admit, as I've climbed into my mid 60s age bracket, that rifle has gotten heavier (grin). While none of the civilian market rifles are "battle rifles" it still remains my go-to should we find ourselves in a serious fight out here in the countryside.
CQB is different story. I'd be grabbing an AR15 carbine
So I'll say that I'm not biased, as I am privileged to have options.
SHTF plan is to stay put out here if at all possible. And it's 225-350 yards from the house to the tree lines of our woods. So my AR10 is scoped and built (and I'm trained at those distances) to defend our home.
If we had to load out and leave, that particular rifle bag is built around an AR15.

 

[ROCK6]

I went through this thought process a few years ago. I do have an FAL, M1A (older Bush model), and a PTR91, but I wanted an AR in .308. Lots of choices, but I ended up going with a POF Revolution. Yes, it’s a gas piston. Yes, it has a few proprietary parts. Yes, I have spare parts. Yes, many parts are compatible with regular AR15 parts. Yes, the base weight was only 7.3 pounds. Yes, it’s far more accurate than I am with a guaranteed one-MOA. Yes, it’s been 100% reliable; zero issues with several hundred rounds.

It fit my requirements, I know the parts constraints, and with the lightest scope (Leupold 1-6 VX-6HD) and mount (LaRue, although Scalarworks now has a lighter mount), and a lightweight WML, I have the overall empty weight right at 9 pounds. Not a lightweight, but much lighter than any of my other .308 rifles, by far.

Even with the acceptable weight to actually “carry”, ammo weight sucks. It’s more of a patrol option around my immediate AO, not a long-range recce rifle.

7.62x51/.308WIN is still a very viable and effective cartridge and likely will be for decades to come. The .30-06 served for about 65 years (adopted in 1906 and served into the early 1970’s). The 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge was adopted in 1954 and is still serving today…it’s almost been 70’s years. Ironically, countries like Germany and Turkey have issued .308 rifles to Infantrymen (and they’re not DMRs). Finland and Sweden are also looking at developing a new line of NATO caliber weapons, one is an infantryman rifle in 7.62x51mm. Their use in GPMG’s are likely to also continue for more than a few decades and it’s still a pretty accurate cartridge inside 1000 meters; more than accurate enough for the vast majority of combat conditions.



ROCK6

 

[sarge912]

There's only one .308 battle rifle I know of I would consider for my primary. FN SCAR. It's light, super accurate, and extremely reliable. The others, like the AR-10, CETME, ect, are just to bulky for me. Then again I am 5'5". You do you. Ammo loadout for a .308 is HEAVY.

I have owned a SCAR 17, M1A, C308, CETME (and other variants) but my favorite is my Zastava M77PS in .308. However, I recent acquired a Savage version of the AR-10 (MSR-10) and it is a close second.

 

[0002S]

This is the way

 

[Tactical Lever]

AR-10 are heavy?? 😳 Wow, we're going to have the softest SHTF in history!

Only about a hundred years ago, all the real men were 17 years old, only weighed about 140 pounds, and they carried a 10 lb M1 Garand, and 30-06 ammo. I'm not saying they didn't whine about how...nope, that's what I'm saying! Time to harden up a little, if you think the .308 jostles you a bit much, or doesn't show your preferred pronouns the right kind of non judgemental respect! 😂

Trying hanging less crap off them to begin with. Like practically none. And a .308 doesn't need a Hubble sized scope on it either.

And I'm not calling anyone weak, but I'm sure most of us could benefit from a little more exercise. A brisk walk around the office with the rest of the gals isn't what I had in mind. Split some wood, do some hard outdoors work. Lift some weights...easy tiger! It's okay to start out with the pink ones! 😅

 

[Tactical Lever]

 

[bighanded]

AR-10 are heavy?? 😳 Wow, we're going to have the softest SHTF in history!

Only about a hundred years ago, all the real men were 17 years old, only weighed about 140 pounds, and they carried a 10 lb M1 Garand, and 30-06 ammo. I'm not saying they didn't whine about how...nope, that's what I'm saying! Time to harden up a little, if you think the .308 jostles you a bit much, or doesn't show your preferred pronouns the right kind of non judgemental respect! 😂

Trying hanging less crap off them to begin with. Like practically none. And a .308 doesn't need a Hubble sized scope on it either.

And I'm not calling anyone weak, but I'm sure most of us could benefit from a little more exercise. A brisk walk around the office with the rest of the gals isn't what I had in mind. Split some wood, do some hard outdoors work. Lift some weights...easy tiger! It's okay to start out with the pink ones! 😅

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when I was training for longer range..my instructor wouldn't let me scope beyond 6x and at range, that 8inc white plate was just a small white blur. I had to trust him on spot.
Prone off-hand, my first shot might typically spit dirt low, but the next 19rds would ping the gong and be well inside of 6 inches on the 8 inch. that is at the 400 and 500yd distance which is as long a range as I've had available to me.
I do still have an old A2 Colt with the handle sights that Uncle Sam believes should be good for 600meters. I'll have to take their word for it, but to your point, accessorizing can add a lot of weight really fast.. bipod, light, big scope, etc. Boy will be worn out before they get to the fight.

 

[Exarmyguy]

I had a chance in the late 70's to buy a take down KLM airlines Armalite AR10 in .308 . There was 3 of them and they were 1000.00 each which was a lot back then. They had shorter barrels than the standard AR10's but I can't remember their actual length. I bought an Aussie FN instead for 250.00 . AR10's are a good rifle for many duties.

 

[44 Guy]

Pretty good range, decent for self defense, and will take down just about any game animal in North America.
It will be my go to weapon.

 

[ajole]

AR-10 are heavy?? 😳 Wow, we're going to have the softest SHTF in history!

Only about a hundred years ago, all the real men were 17 years old, only weighed about 140 pounds, and they carried a 10 lb M1 Garand, and 30-06 ammo.....

.....and as soon as they got a chance, they grabbed an M1 carbine, 5-9 mags full of ammo and 100 more rounds if jumping, and let the FNG pack the Garand.

There's a difference between "did it because they had no other options", and "doing it because you need to prove your manhood."

 

[hatchet jack]

A lot of good responses and suggestions in this thread. An AR-10 in 308 wouldn't really appeal to me. The 308 is a great round. If I didn't own a bolt action I would get a bolt in 308. But I already have a couple of 30-06 and 270 plus 7-08 rifles. To me the 308 is a long range round.

I would rather have the lighter weight of the AR-15 in the common 223/5.56 and save the bigger rounds for hunting and long range defense. If I had to grab and run the 308 with a heavy load out of ammo would be left behind while the lighter rifle with the lighter ammo would be what I would take with me. Thats just my thoughts. The important thing is that no matter what you choose you have a LOT of ammo to go with it. Without ammo they are useless.