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Lets say that some kind of SHTF situation happens tonight, how ready is your ammunition stockpile? Whether its nuclear war, plague, disease outbreak, collapse of the dollar,,,, something happens to disrupt society. What kind of ammunition do you have stockpiled to hunt and protect your property? Have you taken any wild game with the ammunition you have stockpiled? Have you sighted in your rifle with the various types you have stockpiled?

My wife and I made a trip to the Academy sports and outdoors in Lufkin Texas just to buy some ammunition. It seems that the walmart in Jasper Texas can not keep certain types of ammunition in stock. Its either buy online, or drive almost an hour just to buy some ammo.

Todays Haul Includes:

100 rounds Federal 223 Remington
20 rounds 30-30 Winchester in Remington core-lokt 150 grain
20 rounds 308 Winchester in Remington core-lokt 150 grain
20 rounds 30-06 Springfield in Remington core-lokt 150 grain
120 rounds 7.62×39 in Monarch 123 grain full metal jacket



You may be asking “why so much Remington core-lokt?”

Because its a proven performer in southeast Texas whitetail deer.

I stockpile what I know works. Over the past decade and a half my family and I have taken dozens of whitetail deer with Remington core-lokt and in a wide range of calibers.

A few examples of deer taken taken with 30-30, 270 and 308 Winchester. All of these deer were taken with Remington core-lokt.

My family uses 5 different calibers – 270 Winchester, 280 Remington / 7mm Express, 30-30 Winchester, 308 Winchester and 30-06 Springfield.

When you and your family and friends have several different rifle calibers, it is going to be easy to stockpile too many brands and bullet weights. Stick with what you can afford, and what you know works.

Take my 308 Winchester for example. So far I have 3 different brands of ammunition stockpiled – Federal, Monarch and Remington. Remington is my primary hunting ammunition. I am testing the Federal and the Monarch to see which one I should buy more of. With the 2 types of ammunition I have hunting grade ammo, and soft-points for slinging lead downrange.

I divide my ammunition in 2 categories – Hunting and Property Protection

Hunting grade ammunition are bullets that are designed to expand, and have a reasonable amount of accuracy. You are going to pay a little more for hunting ammunition, but when you want to put food on the table, the price paid is going to pay off in the end.



When picked a hunting grade ammunition to stockpile, I use a cost divided by accuracy ratio.

A buddy of mine only shoots Winchester silvertip 308, but at a cost of around $30 – $35 for a box of 20. For 1 box of Winchester silvertip I can buy 2 boxes of Remington core-lokt. The question I ask myself, would I rather have 1 box of great ammunition, or 2 boxes of average ammunition? The Remington core-lokt is not a tack driver. But on the other hand most of my shots are less then 125 yards.



Winchester silvertip may be more accurate then Remington core-lokt on longer shots. But are you going to see that much of a difference at 100 – 125 yards?

Out of my FN/FAL, Remington core-lokt gives about 1 – 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards. Lets say Winchester silvertip gives 3/4 inch groups. Is the improved accuracy worth double the price? If you are shooting 200+ years, then yea, the improved accuracy may be worth the extra cost.

There is no absolute answer for stockpiling hunting ammunition for a SHTF / TEOTWAWKI situation. I stockpile what I use in southeast Texas. Someone that hunts in mountain regions will probably stockpile a totally different type.

Stockpile what works best for you, period.

Property Protection is just that, what you are going to defend your family and your property. This will be low cost full metal jacket or soft-point ammunition.

Up until now we have been talking about hunting rifles, such as the Marlin 336, Remington model 700 and Remington woodsmaster. Lets change pace and talk about firearms that will be used to defend your property, livestock and crops. This will probably be the AR-15 and AK-47.

Maybe its just me, but I believe that you get what you pay for, at least most to the time anyway. If you buy the cheapest 223 or cheapest 7.62×39 on the market, then expect to get low grade performance.

Is the safety and well being of your family worth a few extra pennies per round?

I am just as guilty as the next person of buying the cheapest ammunition I can find. Over the past few years I started buying what works.

One of the issues with changing plans, is now I have a lot of steel cased and brass cased ammunition. For several years I was stockpiling Monarch 223 and Monarch 7.62×39. This meant my stocks of 223 Remington and 7.62×39 was steel cased.

For the past year or so I have started stockpiling American Eagle and Federal 223 Remington, both are brass cased.

Having a mixture of steel cased and brass cased ammunition creates its own problem. Steel cased does not expand like brass cased does. Fire a few steel cased, the chamber gets some residue in it, fire a brass cased, the brass expands, and the case gets stuck in the chamber.

223 Remington and 7.62×39 stockpile includes:

  • Monarch 223
  • American Eagle 223
  • Federal 223
  • Monarch 7.62×39
  • China sports 7.62×39
  • Russian white box hollow point (1990s stuff) 7.62×39
  • Winchester 7.62×39
  • Norinco China north industries 7.62×39

The 7.62×39 is my favorite round for a long term SHTF survival situation. Its well suited for either protecting your property and taking deer sized game.

The 308 Winchester and the 7.62×39 are the only calibers I am stockpiling FMJ, soft-points and hunting ammunition for.

22 Long Rifle

Tied with the 7.62×39 as my favorite SHTF survival caliber, is the 22 long rifle. The 22 long rifle is probably the do all caliber. Its cheap and effective, so what more could you want?

When stockpiling 22 long rifle, I think there are 2 answers – 1, special applications; 2, what works.

Special applications with 22 long rifle includes hyper-sonic and sub-sonic.

OPSEC an issue? Do not want to let your neighbors hear you taking small game, then use sub-sonic.

Have stray dogs or coyotes harassing your livestock, then use hyper-sonic.

Have raccoons getting into the chicken coop at night and do not want to scare the livestock, use sub-sonic.

What works in your 22 rifle may not work in your buddies rifle. If you are buying bulk 22 long rifle, what is the failure rate?

When stockpiling 22 long rifle, it is important to test as many types of ammunition as possible, and stockpile what works best in your rifle and pistol.

My personal stockpile of 22 long rifle includes sub-sonic, bulk and good quality hyper-sonic ammunition. In all, I have probably stockpile 4 or 5 different brands of 22 long rifle.

Handgun Ammunition

The best handgun ammunition is the one that works every single time you pull the trigger. Some people will probably say if you buy a good quality handgun, regardless of what kind of ammunition you use it is going to work. That is very true, but some types of ammunition is more reliable then others, and that is all there is to it.


My personal handgun ammunition stockpile includes Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) and Hollow Points (HP).

Take your handgun out to the range and shoot it until it earns your confidence.

If the handgun has a high rate of failures with different types of ammunition, sell it or trade it in on something that works.

In Review

As complicated as article sounds, its really quit simple.

  • Stockpile what works for you
  • Stockpile whatever you can afford
  • When applicable, stockpile a good defensive round and a good hunting round
  • Stockpile ammunition that is effective on the game animals you plan on hunting
 

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well i just got started prepping guns and ammo. i got a maverick 88 and about 50 rounds 25 bird shot and 25 00 buck, i have a sigma 9mm with 150 rounds of 147gr remmington umc9mm and 50 rounds of 115gr tulammo 9mm . and for my GSG ak47 (its sent off for repairs) i have 625 rounds of various ammo. havnt taken any game with any of the weapons but i plan on adding a wasr 10/63 and a mosin nagant. i know i need alot more ammo and i get a box for each gun every 2 weeks
 

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Thats about what I try to do. I work a 2nd job just to try and have cash to prep. The ar ammo is a great deal at walmart. I thought 7.62x39 was high though I'm going to order a large amount and my magazines before any bans.
 

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I buy out the .223 100 round box everytime I'm at wal-mart the price is just as good for me as ordering 1,000 case online. Ammo is gonna only get harder to get.
What brand is the 100 round boxes and about how much to you pay? They never seem to have much selection of 223 at any of the walmarts around me.
 

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From years of hunting deer I also prefer plain old Remington Core-lokt. It's accurate and doesn't over stress the gas system of my M1A like some light magnum loads do. Also works great out of my BLR. My other 7.62/308 is a mix of port and south african surplus.
For the ak's and sks's I have several cases of Golden Tiger 7.62x39. This round has a hollow air space behind the tip that fold over on impact causing severe yawing and large exit wounds similar to the 5.45 "poison bullet". I stocked up on it back when it could be had for $150/1000.
Pistol ammo is mostly WWB .230gr ball in .45 auto and remington 125gr +P jhp in the 100 round bulk packs. Both were acquired a box a payday at wally world over a couple years.
There's other ammo for odd guns I have but those are my main shtf type survival guns. The other one of note is .44 special ammo for my Colt SAA wich is all my own handloads of 240 gr. hardcast swc at 900 fps+.
 

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Sick!!! :thumb:

You can get the same pricing from sgammo.com in smaller quantities.

But still, 12,500 round bucket is pretty darn sweet :)
I agree you can get the same pricing online, but you don't get a 30 gallon drum :D:

Like you Kev its a little here and there. Once a year I may buy a case of something, but that means I don't buy that caliber for a while to offset the cost.

I've never really done the steel case stuff. Not that I have anything against it. I've always went with the federal and lake city stuff. I never really thought of it in the term you described until now.

I have some specialty hunting ammo for the 24" AR that is all scoped out. That's it. I keep thinking I need to jump into 308, but I haven't had a real cause yet.
 

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This is exactly why I started reloading my own ammo about 3 years ago.

I have been able to learn the trade, develop custom loads for all of my weapon systems which are markedly more accurate than factory loads, and have stockpiled my components at an expense exponentially lower than stockpiling complete ammo.

Oh yeah ... ammo shortages don't affect handloaders who are well-stocked nearly as much as non-handloaders. I can't remember the last time I bought ammo.

I highly encourage ALL preppers to learn to roll their own.
 

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One thing that I always suggest is that any ammo you get should be stored in 3 locations. Some at your residence. Some at a convenient/safe place half way between your residence and your final bug out (BOL) location. Then most of your ammo should be stored at your final or bug out location.

Here's the idea behind my suggestion: The rounds you have at your residence are meant to be used for immediate use or minor emergencies. These rounds also serve as your starting point ammo until you can get to your halfway point or stash. At the halfway point you should have some more ammo available in case you need it along with some extra food, fire making material like cans of sterno, water, candles, some medicines and maybe extra clothes along with a first aid bag too.

The majority of your ammo is stashed at your final location. Once you get to your final location, that is where you will be spending the most time. That is also where you will be trying to eek out a subsistence. At your final destination you will need ammo for hunting purposes, personal defense and maybe group defense. Because you need a lot of ammo here that is why I suggest you store most of your ammo at the final destination or bug out location. At the BOL you might want to also store some extra firearms too. Use your own imagination for what you think you might need stored at the BOL.
 

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well, i just got .50 cal muzzle loader given to me for free and have not got anything to shoot out of it yet or even found out what i need. but other than this one rifle, i am gonna bet that after the average person runs out of ammo, i still have some of my first use ammo and havent even touched the other 7 calibers.
 

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Lets say that some kind of SHTF situation happens tonight, how ready is your ammunition stockpile?


Great post Kev. No offense, but if i had to drive an hour away for ammo, i would've got WAY more than that.

As far as what type of ammo i stock, i stock what i shoot and what works best in my firearms. Brass cased everything.
As far as .22, i have 4 different guns that shoot it, but they are particular to certain ammo. So i stock 4 different brands.
 

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I usually start with the cheapest bulk surplus or steel cased stuff I can get until I have built up a comfortable base for every caliber, then start stocking the higher quality brass cased boxer primed soft point ammo for hunting and long term reloading.
 

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Got enough .22LR on hand for a shot a day in excess of 10yr. That should keep the stew pot happy.

Have .44 mag on the weekly grocery list. Watching the reserve cache grow by the week. Have two Rossi's to feed now. Adopted another recently :) .

7.62x54R, plenty. Not gonna say how much, you'll think I'm lying, but have it in ball & SP.

Several hundred rds of .32H&R mag & S&W long, but not stock piling that caliber.

Black powder is my next firearm prep, soon as I get the kit I want.
 

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I order a case per month on every other paycheck online shipping included.

I like pistols and carbines that shoot the same round. So, more of less types of ammo.
 

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I highly encourage ALL preppers to learn to roll their own.
Just started.

I have a Lee turret press and just got a deal on a NIB 12 gauge lee loader.

Picking up dies and components. I was up late last night working on a spreadsheet to calculate price per round and it looks like if I use the Hodgdon CFE 223 and buy it in bulk, I can keep my price per round down under 18 cents.

Compare that to $0.40 retail.

I'm also going to do a couple other rifle and handgun calibers. But one step at a time.
 

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Don't any of you guys have MiWall or another ammo distributor at your
gun shows? They're cheaper than anywhere, becsuse you don't have to
pay shipping. There are people going out with hand trucks loaded up
with 500 and 1000 round boxes of factory Remington and Winchester,
mil SS109 in the cans, etc... If you're going to really stock up, that's the
only way to buy it.

Also sometimes a dealer will get a shipment of Hirtenberger .308...
I"ve even seen British Radway Green. I''ve got enough for a whole Berkeley
of Obama-voters
 
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