[maine-marine]

This is written thinking post SHTF

I am sure you will be able to barter with a bottle of whiskey - but will you really want to.

Who will you be trading with and what will they be trading you for.

If it is a neighbor that you know - Do you really want a drunk neighbor post SHTF. Do you want them to know you have booze and plenty of it. Do they have some much stuff they can afford to trade you XXX for whiskey

If it is some person that just happens to wonder up to your house - Do you want a drunk stranger around your area?

If it is a family with husband and wife and kids- do you really want to take something of value from them so they can drink?

Would you take anything eatable from a stranger for a bottle of booze?

Unless it is somebody I know very very very well and I know they are not going to get drunk and start shooting up the local place - I can not see an upside to having it as a barter item...

I would not offer it as a trade with a stranger any more then I would trade a Gun to a stranger.

 

[labotomi]

This is written thinking post SHTF

I am sure you will be able to barter with a bottle of whiskey - but will you really want to.

Who will you be trading with and what will they be trading you for.

If it is a neighbor that you know - Do you really want a drunk neighbor post SHTF. Do you want them to know you have booze and plenty of it. Do they have some much stuff they can afford to trade you XXX for whiskey

If it is some person that just happens to wonder up to your house - Do you want a drunk stranger around your area?

If it is a family with husband and wife and kids- do you really want to take something of value from them so they can drink?

Would you take anything eatable from a stranger for a bottle of booze?

Unless it is somebody I know very very very well and I know they are not going to get drunk and start shooting up the local place - I can not see an upside to having it as a barter item...

I would not offer it as a trade with a stranger any more then I would trade a Gun to a stranger.

What's different with selling booze to those people now?

 

[Jeffrey]

A bottle of booze does not always equal an instant beligerant drunk. I never open a bottle of booze as soon as I buy it. I take it home for entertaining, special event, after dinner, or for an otherwise special event. Also if you just got "the last" bottle of whiskey, you will probably want it to last instead of chugging it straight down anyway.

But booze is just one item that can be traded. I backstock Vodka, Ibuprophen and Hershey bars(all in the freezer).

 

[craftwelder]

I see your reasoning, but since I make distilled spirits.....it is a marketable(barter) item. But I mainly am leaning towards the fuel for engines type alcohal barter. Or for in wick lamps etc.

 

[Brettboat]

I see your reasoning, but since I make distilled spirits.....it is a marketable(barter) item. But I mainly am leaning towards the fuel for engines type alcohal barter. Or for in wick lamps etc.

Still need real gas to start an engine, alcohol is far too low octaine. BTW, how do you get around problems like alcohol eating away seals and such?

I'd stock pile alcohol, candy bar, heck a little bit of everything. But I'm trying to get other things in order for the time being.

 

[blackkitty]

Just get the hotel mini-bottles to trade. :

 

[Daelith]

I've seen this hashed out time and time again on the boards with proponents on both sides. What it boils down to is alcohol (hard liquors that keep well) is a limited, but powerful, trading/bribing tool. You don't want to replace normal preps with it nor be known as the "source," but in a scenario where you want to gain favor it could prove invaluable.

 

[paramilusmc]

Your thinking about this in the wrong light. What about trading alcohol with those that need to "go away"? In other words if you consider this or these individuals a threat what batter time to mount an offensive then when they are intoxicated and their motor skills are not the best?

You could also use alcohol as a bonding tool with those you would like to form alliances with. It does have many uses as a barter item, just don't barter it out of your BOL. Instead bring it to group or town gatherings. There will be plenty of armed citizens around to keep others in check at that point, don't think you have to worry to much about drunks.

How much do you worry about getting attacked by the homeless on a day to day bases?

 

[Brettboat]

You could also use alcohol as a bonding tool with those you would like to form alliances with. It does have many uses as a barter item, just don't barter it out of your BOL. Instead bring it to group or town gatherings. There will be plenty of armed citizens around to keep others in check at that point, don't think you have to worry to much about drunks.

Food and alcohol is and has always been a good way to form alliances.

 

[Sierra Dave]

Don't forget...

Medicinal value.

I think it will have more value when things have settled.


Sierra Dave

 

[Carne Frio]

I see it as a valid item to store for use or barter and it stores well.
And remember, " Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker".

 

[Illini Warrior]

The word is not barter or trade ...... it's bribe ........ soldiers/militia will probably have food, shelter, clothing ect ect provided to them ...... universally they will be looking for luxuries .... a bottle could save your life

 

[root]

Still need real gas to start an engine, alcohol is far too low octaine. BTW, how do you get around problems like alcohol eating away seals and such?

Pure ethanol is around 100 octane (r+m/2).. Actually the lower the octane, the easier to combust... which is why high compression engines require higher octane to prevent pre-detonation.

But anyway, yes I have a bunch of alcohol. A large collection of whiskeys. I don't consider myself a drunk... in fact I'm lucky if I drink some once a month.

Everclear is a good prep item... has many uses including drinking, first aid, alcohol stoves, etc.

 

[denvernative321]

one bottle of whisky is not going to turn someone into a drunk. if you own the whole liquor store than maybe you can make your neighbor a drunk. but more than likely it will be re-traded for something else more desired.


I dont get this stigma about trading certain items. if it makes you uncomfortable trading an item like this THAN DONT. but dont come to this site complaining about it because im sure nobody cares if your afraid to trade with strangers.


P.S. i do gun and ammo deals with strangers all the time. if your scared you can crawl inside my pocket. I have some room for you:thumb:

 

[PSYOP Soldier]

Stashing booze is the last, i mean last prep i would even consider, then it would be like blackkitty suggested..lots of mini's, two flavors...vodka and whiskey, cheap stuff....I'll keep the Jura and Jamison for me.... :

 

[tobkis]

Lets sit down, have a drink and discuss this further.

 

[root]

I dont get this stigma about trading certain items. if it makes you uncomfortable trading an item like this THAN DONT. but dont come to this site complaining about it because im sure nobody cares if your afraid to trade with strangers.

true that. I hate cigarettes and smoking personally but if SHTF and I'm near a store, I'm buying several cartons.

 

[Grevlin]

If it comes to that...You will trade your extra for something you really need.


Period.


It could be a ziplock of salt, 20 rounds of .22, or even a hotel bar of soap - if you have extra and you need something (that you are running out of) you WILL trade for it.

Actual EOTWAWKI will certainly sort out all of these theoretical's :

 

[jgallno]

in early america alcohol was a common commodity. even post shtf it seems that those on the frontier, in the midst of hostile indians, french and so on. Also beyond the law, weren't to much worse off than someone who had a still. I agree that buying alcohol when things are really bad would seem a poor choice. Same with tobacco or drugs. However, for some those choices are the ones they've made all of their life.

What if someone wanted to trade a gallon of diesel for a pint of whiskey? I'd do it.

 

[PSYOP Soldier]

Lets sit down, have a drink and discuss this further.

My pleasure...I'll bring some Kilchomen too, along with all my fly fishing gear, i hear Colorado is heaven...:thumb: