Armed & Dangerous
once two strangers climbed ole rocky top lookin for a moonshine still, strangers they aint come down rocky top recon they never will....
I believe the story did mention that any/all operators of farm equipment were going to be required to get CDL's, because the feds were going to re-classify them as commercial vehicles. As far as the other points you made, they seem valid to me...but I'm just not willing to put anything past the Federal Government at this point. Nothing but a bunch of communist and socialist that need to be watched like hawks!i dont see how the fed dot can regulate it if your not going across state lines with it
that said i dont think that theres a snoballs chance in hell they will pass or be able to implement it because all my farming friends are too buisy to take some stupid test and since the equipment stays on there property any way you would be tresspassing to try to **** with it and if you start trapsing on farmland here un invited and unnanounced your likely to not leave
and since tractors dont have licence plates or things like that how will they know what your operating? you dont need a cdl for a bulldozer or backhoe are they next?
personaly i wouldnt worry about it
thinkin bout pencil pushin city folks comming onto farms looking for licences reminded me about this song
Osborne Brothers - Rocky Top - YouTube
I don't believe a license of any type is required to operate any vehicle on private land. Now if you wanted to take the equipment on a public road, they may have a case.I believe the story did mention that any/all operators of farm equipment were going to be required to get CDL's, because the feds were going to re-classify them as commercial vehicles. As far as the other points you made, they seem valid to me...but I'm just not willing to put anything past the Federal Government at this point. Nothing but a bunch of communist and socialist that need to be watched like hawks!
Interesting tidbit. I'm not sure how or if this pertains. For years I operated spotter trucks and cranes moving hazardous loads on federal property working for union pacific. without a valid drivers license. And they knew. Wasn't a problem. A few years after 9/11 it became an issue. You couldn't work a ramp without a valid license. Some changes in the law or another.
1) YOU ARE NOT being paranoidAm I just being paranoid or...
IMO you should have to have a cdl to drive that truck. I don't see how any cdl could cause any issues for you off the clock. In reality the only difference is that you get a federal background check and you can't be more than .04 on a drunk test. Just because you're a firefighter doesn't mean you have any more common sense or respect for the vehicle that you're driving than a regular ol truck driver. The feds took over the entire cdl program so it's federal not state, just wait, they'll require it for you eventually:The problem with this thread is that this issue is a state issue not federal. I would not lend too much to this thread.
As a Firefighter we were threatened by the state for all apparatus drivers would need a CDL but then it was reversed as it caused way too much grief for our off the clock driving. Getting a simple fix it ticket became a mound out of a molehill issue. We are all exempt now.
You can't require somebody have a drivers license if they are driving on private property.
This is pretty much my understanding and yes, I operated a lot of farm machinery from the age of 12 on. You can let someone without a license pretty much operate just about anything on private land and the DOT can't say "boo" because they just plain have no jurisdiction there.
A reasonable administration would restrict driving self powered ag equipment to a modest distance on public roads and remove the "Farm Truck" exclusion used by many farmers for their semis.
I am not thinking this is the case. My source said yes on PRIVATE land for PRIVATE USE you can let your 12 yr old drive all day. But operating a vehicle on PRIVATE land for COMMERCIAL PURPOSES (in exchange for money, goods or services) is a whole 'nother ball of string.This is pretty much my understanding and yes, I operated a lot of farm machinery from the age of 12 on. You can let someone without a license pretty much operate just about anything on private land and the DOT can't say "boo" because they just plain have no jurisdiction there.
Maybe, but I doubt it. I have seen a lot of people go off half-cocked in response to these kinds of rumors - especially the conspiracy theorist websites - it is how they generate excitement and traffic to their sites which in turn generates ad revenue. In my experience the real story is much more mundane and harmless.So farmer Jones down the road, cannot hire your 12 yr old son and your John Deere to plow his fields on his land, nor can Joe Doaks and Sons Wheat Harvesting use his 12 yr old son to harvest the wheat on your farm if you are paying Joe Doaks to do so.
Commercial Vs Private use...
Personally, I don't think the DOT needs to get involved even for the case where it is a public road - there just isn't that many miles traveled or time on the public roads. Most equipment that is moved any real distance is trucked/trailered. Otherwise the distances are and time are very short.The proposed guidance to determine whether off-road farm equipment or implements of husbandry operated on public roads for limited distances are considered commercial motor vehicles
Basically, they’re seeking comments on whether or not to require tractor and agriculture equipment drivers to have a CDL to operate machinery on public roads.