You could not pay me to visit Mexico these days

 

You couldnt pay the illegal aliens to go back ither.

 

I just got back from Cancun about 3 weeks ago. It was interesting to see heavily armed "federal police" with truck mounted machine guns etc, regularly circling and protecting the major tourist areas ... drive just outside of the tourist "safe zones" and suddenly it was rough, unmarked, pickup trucks with armed and masked men making patrols -> we had no way to confirm, but we assumed these were cartel goons protecting their designated areas.

And this is in the "safe" parts of Cancun (of all places). Scary scary stuff down there.

 

like the Green Zone in Iraq, or going down to Dog Patch in Vietnam after dark.

Had my fill of 3rd world crap hole and you couldn't pay me to go to Mexico now unless it was paying me to go cocked and locked.

 

i bet you could find a few well trained Vets to go down and start cleaning that place up. i would donate a little cash to them in support. you know, it would help us out in the long run.

 

Cough NUKE cough just saying
Ok horrid idea but seriously how ****ed would good ole mehiko be if we flushed the drain on all the illegals here and sent them all back down south That is one **** hole country
beautifull beaches and women though

 

Next thing you know we will be carving out neutral zones where illegals can enter without being harassed by the border patrol or the cartels. After all, the illegals just want to get a better life and a green job.

Mexico has been so corrupt for so long, but when you went down you just lost all of your money paid out as bribes, now you stand a good chance of loosing your life. Very sad.

 

It was bad when I was living in El Paso back in 90. It is only getting worse from what I hear from friends.
Expect a Chavez style dictatorship down there in the future, the last election was pretty scary.

we've got to secure the border... I'm not hopeful

 

of course there were no police, nor military. they were paid off, or warned off, or both.

 

they need to get a hit squad of specially trained millitary and just start wipping that scumm of the face of the plannet.....and also here in the US....

 

Hit squads of specially trained military formed the mexican drug cartels as we know them today....

 

increasing violent gang activity in our area..even our little town, was a main motivator in my arming up to a level that I otherwise would not have considered..my daily carry habits are designed to protect me from the average street thug looking to pick up some fast cash...but with friends/family in local LE... I'm more aware of how aggressive the latino gang activity actually is and what it actually would take to deter them...frankly..the best I can hope for is to send them on down the street looking for easier pickins....I'd call that a win....if they actually determined a target...our local police would have their hands full and suffer a lot of casualties in the early encounters before backups could engage.

 

If the situation in Mexico were to happen in the US I think you'd see a lot more street justice.

Pulling aside a unarmed, passive Mexican is one thing.

Pulling aside an armed, angry American would be another......

 

Yea if that stuff started happening here it would be a open hunting season on those cartel folks
maybe some of those millions of guns americans owned would be put to use

and youd be able to buy ammo at kiosks like redbox dvds lmao

 

We can solve this problem anytime we want! All we have to do is make any and ALL drugs legal. If cocaine were legal I would not snort it. If heroin were legal I would not put a needle in my arm. The idiots that will use this crap will find it and use it whether it is legal or not. If it were legal the profit would be taken out of the situation and there would be no one trying to sell this crap to our children near the school campus. Give it away free at the post office to anyone who wants it. Our government could provide a small subsidy to the farmers to grow. If it were free there would be no need to kill anyone over territory. There would be no need to smuggle that crap across the border. We can deal with the drug addicts after the fact much cheaper and in an organized method after we stop the killing and the terrific expense for the WAR ON DRUGS! Take away the profit and you take away the major part of the problem.

 

ANOTHER PLUS WOULD BE THAT WITH PURER PRODUCT DRUGGIES WOULD DIE OFF QUICKER,YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PUT DO NOT DRINK ON A BOTTLE OF DRANO

 

The war on drugs is a total failure! It has cost the U.S. billions of dollars. Thousands of people all around the world are being killed because of this drug business. Some idiot like Paris Hilton wants some cocaine and a dude in Tijuana ends up with his head hanging from a bridge. It is just not worth it! End the profit and end the violence. You cannot sell something that someone can obtain for free. No more drug cartels, no more smuggling, no more prison over crowding, no more powerful drug lords to dominate a country. End this once and for all! America is the land of the free, if you want to pour gasoline on the seat of your pants and strike a match it is just fine with me! Let freedom ring!

 

Anyone who has ever been a soldier in the "War on Drugs", can tell you there is no war on the drugs, just on some of the people that the government hasn't approved to traffic in them, and some of the users so that lawyers and judges have a reason for existing. We pay the people who grow the poppies and the coca plants to keep production going, that's not my idea of a war.

 

hit squads of specially trained military,watch the vidio again ,it looks like a bunch of untrained morans especialy when they rushed the house it looked more like the ATF doufus's at waco.if the people in the house were armed they would have slaughtered the cartel.

 

Brilliant!! :thumb:

 

In the end you will end up paying for increased crime rates and treatment centers for the influx of chemically dependent Americans. Pretty much every family would be affected drastically if they were to legalize all drugs.

 

Increased crime rates? Why steal to buy something that is free? Parents, teachers, preachers and community leaders should take a part to TEACH children to stay off drugs. If no one is trying to get them to take drugs (profit) then it is unlikely they will take that route. If so, they would have done so anyway. Stop the violence! It has not worked the way we have been doing it so maybe it is time to try something different.

 

The ONLY way to rid our planet of this skum is to have death squads with immunity from prosecution..Termination with extreme prejudice...

 

Yeah, right. Legalize all the drugs and the crime will go away. Like it has in California over marijuana. Crime has actually gone up with people breaking into other's operations to steal their plants and their product to sell it on the street and for their own production. The legal buyers/sellers have been killed by rival gangs looking to make their own profit. Look it up. Crime has not gone down. In some areas it has increased exponentially by the legalization of it. Then you get the crackheads and tweakers who get strung out and still break into people's homes to get money for their habit since they can't keep a job AND do hard drugs like heroin, methamphetamine, or crack. They won't sell it in the school yards? Why not? They do it now and its illegal. They sell off their parent's prescriptions that are obtained legally to get money for something else just like they would any other commodity. Kids like to get drunk just like adults so why wouldn't they want to get high, too? The same people who would lobby for the legalization of drugs are probably the same that would try to outlaw handguns since a crackhead with a pistol is more dangerous than we will tolerate and that crackhead will certainly abide by gun legislation.

 

Yeah, right. Legalize all the drugs and the crime will go away. Like it has in California over marijuana. Crime has actually gone up with people breaking into other's operations to steal their plants and their product to sell it on the street and for their own production.

What part of GIVE IT AWAY FREE do you not understand? If marijuana were free, like the air we breath....who and why would any idiot steal to obtain it?

Steal the air and try to sell it...may be a great idea!

 

you need to move to Amsterdam, it is legal there. They have lots of pre-teen hookers there too since the restrictions were lifted several years ago.
If the US would just allow the PD to kill every drug dealer they pinch, the traffic would slow waaaaaaaaay down.

ISS

 

I am not sure what pre-teen hookers have to do with a failed drug policy. The U.S. War on Drugs is a failure. Period, end of sentence! We have spent BILLIONS of dollars and the situation is worse than before it started. We need to change direction and take the profit from the drug trade. No bucks, No Buck Rogers!!! No need to kill if there is no money to gain, etc. Very simple to stop. We will have to deal with those addicted after the smoke clears but we will have that problem anyway!

 

Ah yes. That glorious Drug War. What a wonderful idea prohibition is. It gives us things like this:

More on the Botched Drug Raid in Massachusetts

Here’s a statement from the Framingham, Massachusetts Police Chief Steven Carl on the botched drug raid I blogged about this morning:

At 12:30 a.m. on Wednesday, January 5, the Framingham Police SWAT Team served a search warrant at 26 Fountain St. in Framingham. During the service of the search warrant Mr. Eurie Stamps was tragically and fatally struck by a bullet which was discharged from a SWAT officer’s rifle. Despite immediate intervention by tactical medics, he died at the scene.

The officer involved has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the District Attorney’s Office’s independent investigation into the justifiability of the shooting. Our condolences are with Mr. Stamp’s family for the heartbreak they are understandably enduring and we will await the findings of the investigation before taking any additional administrative action.

According to the Middlesex District Attorney’s Office, the investigation will take three to four weeks and the identity of the Framingham officer who shot Stamps will not be released until the investigation is complete.

Interesting wording. Stamps wasn’t killed by a cop. Rather, Stamps was “fatally struck by a bullet which was discharged from a SWAT officer’s rifle.” I’m also fairly certain that if Mr. Stamps had been the one whose gun discharged a bullet that fatally wounded a SWAT officer, Mr. Stamps’ name would have been released to the public rather quickly. And Carl’s initial statement to the press would have been less ambiguous.

It now seems clear that Stamps wasn’t the target of the raid, and that he wasn’t armed. These raids are dangerous, they’re volatile, and they have a very thin margin for error. I report on a lot of wrong door raids here. But this one shows why they’re an inappropriate use of force to serve warrants for nonviolent crimes even when the police have the right house, and they actually find their suspect with illicit drugs. SWAT tactics are appropriate when you’re using their inherent violence to defuse an already violent situation. When they’re used to serve drug warrants, you’re creating violence where none existed before. The consequences are predictable. People die—cops, drug dealers, people mistaken for drug dealers, and bystanders.

Even if you support the drug war, it isn’t any more difficult to get high in Framingham, Massachussets today than it was last week. So what purpose do the 150 or or so drug raids per day in this country serve, other than to inflict government-sanctioned violence on people suspected of consensual, ultimately political crimes?

If this case plays out like most of those before it, Eurie Stamps’ death won’t change a damn thing. His will be just another body on the growing pile of drug war collateral damage.

 

look likes they are more efficient than the fbi and atf during the waco incident.

 

Duh, OK....I have the square bales of hay in the barn for the cows. Let's say that these bales were marijuana and each person received a "bail' upon purchase of a Big Mac or a taco from Taco Bell. Each pizza order included another "bail" of marijuana. Every cup of coffee at Starbucks or movie rental came with another "bail". When your trash was picked up twice a week they delivered another "bail" each time. At some point it would be obvious that we do NOT need to buy this crap! Make the other drugs just as easy to obtain. There were 13,000 people Killed in Mexico in 2010 because of the drug trade. I say make these drugs so plentiful and cheap that it is equal to sand on the beach and the profit is gone. With the profit gone the greed, crime, murder, etc. is also GONE!:thumb:

 

I am with the other folks on this one. I case you have not looked around the drugs are plentiful as we speak. When I 10 year old kid can get heroin for 10 dollars or less , how much more plentiful do we think it can get. I say shut the border and let the drug prices sky rocket. Legalizing drugs will help reduce the drug trade but will also cost tax payers more to take care of the addicted. If a grown person wants to become addicted to a drug let them, and let them pay the high price for it. If drugs are legalized , pretty much as it is now, kids before they know how to clean their butts become addicts.

 

Every time I see a video like that it makes me want a .50 BMG and lots of ammo.
It's a perfect example of what a SHTF would look like here.
We would need to put our differences aside and band together.

 

OK guys, it would not matter if we were to actually come up with some GREAT idea to solve the problem. None of us have much of a voice in what happens with our government anymore. We elect these folks and they do what they want when they get to congress. As far as the drugs are concerned if people want drugs they will get them. Just because cigarettes are legal does not make me want to smoke. I just think that if no one is making a profit they would not have any incentive to try to get our children hooked of this stuff. Maybe I am wrong, but the current method does not seem to be working.

 

This link may have been posted before:
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

 

The guy in the "US troops harvest opium" video is not a US soldier: Look at his uniform.

 

i see an american flag.. looks like the old style dessert camo (which is what was warn early in the war) ... he has an M-4.. and a hummer in the back ground