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Over the week end I had a complete brake failure on my Tacoma. No wreck no amazing crashes luckily. That isn't the sad part of the ordeal. The sad part is yet to come.

Come Monday it goes to the shop to be repaired the mechanic tells me he isn't going to work on it till it goes to the dealer ship for possible recall problems. I tell him to patch it up good enough to get me to the dealership then. Which he does.

When I get to the dealer ship I talk to them about a possible recall on rusted out frames on Tacomas from 1995 to 2000. The dealer service manager proceeds to tell me all about it. So we go out and look at the trucks frame all looks good but one spot. He tells me I have to bring it back in to have it put on the lift so it can be inspected and tested. While he is setting there telling me this I pull out my pocket knife and poke a hole through the frame with the Knife.

Here comes the sad part. He tells me if the hole goes all the way through which it does the truck is to be scrapped. I will be payed and payed well for the truck. The deal now goes down like this I take it back in to have it looked at and pictures taken they send them off to Toyota. An engineer reviews them then a claim agent calls me. The claim agent is to explain how it will all go down and what I will get and price can be discussed at this time. They then send out a Toyota Rep who give me a check and takes the truck.

I bought this truck when it was just 2 years old with 20,000 miles on it. I looked for over 2 months for a Tacoma with the features I wanted when purchased. The right motor, manual transmission, true 4 wheel drive, and locking hubs. Since then I personally have put down over 200,000 in this truck with only some minor problems. Needed a new starter once, new clutch, and a new idler pulley. This has been the best truck I have ever owned and it will be greatly missed.

I have posted a link to an article about the problem. As a side note I never received a letter and I bought it from a Toyota Dealer. So for all you Tacoma owners out there take a look and see if you are part of this problem.

http://blog.toyota.com/2008/03/living-up-to-ou/comments/page/8/

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Bummer. Sounds like and opportunity for a new truck! Great deals nowadays...
 

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Thanks for the heads up.
Eventhough I know my Toy Taco inside and out, and top and bottom,.....I went to take a look. Nothing but light surface rust on the frame in a couple of spots. Looks like it has been undercoated.
Mine's a 95 four banger, 5 speed standard. It was my sons, but I bought it off him when he needed a bigger truck. Has 147K miles, so it's just broke in good.:D:
You are going to get another Taco right?:thumb:
 

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I wouldn't. there is a major buyback of Tacomas right now due to rusted out frames.

Brand new Silverados are going for 14 grand.
 

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Wow. I own a Tacoma a 98 Prerunner. I just had it up on the rack the other day for an oil and tranny oil change and everything looked good. Will keep my eyes open though. Thank you for the heads up. I absolutely love my truck.
 

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While at the dealership yesterday getting the pictures taken the service manager stated that this recall is to be extended to include 1994 truck and 2001-2004 trucks. He said this change will take effect some time after the first of the year.

Czech I will most likely get another Toyota might not be a Taco might be a slightly older truck.

FXjohn I know 4 people that have new Silverados and of the 4 3 of them have problems all the time and they go back to the dealership for warranty work. The sad thing is I was a die hard Chevy Man for years then I bought a brand new 2000 S10. It was in the shop for warranty work as it was on the road. After that I bought the Tacoma and haven't looked back.

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FXjohn I know 4 people that have new Silverados and of the 4 3 of them have problems all the time and they go back to the dealership for warranty work.
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I would imagine the 14k ones are nice and simple 4.3 and a stickshift.
The people I know with silverados don't have anything more than normal maintenance issues. Maybe your friends just put gas in them and don't pay attention to maintenance.
 

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just goes to show that no matter if its american japanese or taiwanese, they are machines created by man, and have flaws and break.
i actually believe that certain people will always have bad luck no matter what vehicle they drive. my brother is like that, he has nothing but break downs in ANYcar he owns. i can buy the car from him and drive it for years without any problems. every car ive owned has been great for me, ive never owned a lemon.
 

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FXjohn I know 4 people that have new Silverados and of the 4 3 of them have problems all the time and they go back to the dealership for warranty work. The sad thing is I was a die hard Chevy Man for years then I bought a brand new 2000 S10. It was in the shop for warranty work as it was on the road. After that I bought the Tacoma and haven't looked back.

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You can make that 4 out of 5 on the Silverado. Had an '07 that was in the shop constantly for stupid bull****.

Don't feel bad on the Taco, lot's of them are being bought back, most over blue book. Not sure if you want a new truck, but the latest Taco's are a great truck, just as all the ones before them. I love my '07. it's a little tight on some trails, but has gone amazing places with just a small lift which helped in the much needed extra ground clearance. If I could get out of this one and into an older one again, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I'd have to build it to how I want.
 

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just goes to show that no matter if its american japanese or taiwanese, they are machines created by man, and have flaws and break.
i actually believe that certain people will always have bad luck no matter what vehicle they drive. my brother is like that, he has nothing but break downs in ANYcar he owns. i can buy the car from him and drive it for years without any problems. every car ive owned has been great for me, ive never owned a lemon.
Just another sign of dumbed down Sheeple.
No smarter than the key in the ignition.
The sad part is that mini trucks barely get any better mileage than full size.
 

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FXjohn one of those people is my father and he does maintenance like clock work. He has had it for brakes that lock up, bad power steering pump, steering lock that engages while in drive, and my personal favorite the truck looses power while driving down the road you can't depress the gas peddle it will push your foot up (to get it to go again you have to shut the truck down and restart)they fix it and it comes right back with in a week or so.

Trixie, you are right they are just machines and some people do have bad automotive luck. Mine is great till it starts to go bad then it is a train wreck LOL.

Boyscout I have a 1986 project truck setting around that is in need of finishing this just might be the funding for that. We will see what the $ amount comes too first.

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Just another sign of dumbed down Sheeple.
No smarter than the key in the ignition.
The sad part is that mini trucks barely get any better mileage than full size.
correct! if your talking 4x4, none get great mileage. they all hover at 20 mpg highway. wether its a 4 cyl or a big block. of course toyota owners try to say they get 25 mpg. (wishful). samurai's and tracker/sidekicks/x-90's are they only 4x4s with frames that get 28-30 mpg.
 

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Just another sign of dumbed down Sheeple.
No smarter than the key in the ignition.
The sad part is that mini trucks barely get any better mileage than full size.
Now I know your dumber than dirt .
 

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Trixie in my Tacoma town is 18-20 mpg and on highway 20-25 mpg interstate I get anywhere from 23-28 mpg.

Every other small truck sucked at gas mileage no matter where you went.
 

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Glad to hear there was no crash.
Wrecked mine about 5 weeks ago, it was a Ford F150 that was the best beatup rustbucket that ever was. The advances in technology have been pretty good, my old truck was a 1994 with a 300cui straight 6 that got 14MPG. The new one (F150) is an '06 with a 4.6L V8 that has almost double the HP (which isn't that necessasary) and gets 16.5 - 17MPG.

The best truck in the world is one that always gets you there and back.
 

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Skully you are right and that is what this truck did. It got me every where and any where I wanted to go. Hills, creeks, mud, dirt, rocks, and even some roads. I am gonna drive it till the day they take it. After that I am not so sure.

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You can thank the Dana Corporation for your rusty frame. They made them. had mine inspected and it passed. I think 4Runners are made in Japan.
 

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Sorry to hear about your truck. I get attached to my vehicles too. I have 98 Cherokee. It pretty much sits in the garage as we have 2 newer cars to drive around. I still can't bring myself to sell it. It has been a good vehicle anything that has gone wrong with it I have pretty much been able to fix. It has 160k right now.
 
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