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Now that I have my shiny new crystal ball hooked up to the High Definition cable service, I am going to make a prediction... Hold on to your seats, everybody...

My prediction is: We are NOT going to see a high speed, overnight kind of disaster hit our country right away. I think that what is approaching us is a slow and DELIBERATE act, sort of like a very subtle attack from overseas. Think about this idea for awhile...

Where did most of the original financial panic occur? In Asian markets first. Remember that? Remember how Tokyo had to shut down their stock market last year because of a panic? Then it started to spread from there.

My guess is that World War 3 is being fought in a different vane right now.

Wars are fought in a variety of ways and for a variety of reasons. A war, like most in the Crusades, can be caused by religious issues. They can be fought over politics, military reasons, over natural resources and even in an economic manner. I think that WW3 is in effect right now but it is being waged on an economic front this time.

What first triggered me to believing this was the timing of the strike. When a gaggle of socialists strike, they do so when the timing of the event is critical. Look at the moves and the timing factors involving Hitler many years ago. Look at the political moves made by Hillary in 2004 against Kerry and in 2008 against Obama.

Now which political candidate in the 2008 election has ties to Asia? Like say Indonesia? Isn't it funny that a sudden financial crisis occurs at just the right time to bolster this candidate's popularity? Hmmm.

Any way, I also think that this wreck coming at us is doing so at a very, very slow pace. I think that gradually the collision will occur between us and the sliding giant. I also think that eventually it will come to a halt, or maybe even disappear, right after January 20th. If it doesn't disappear within a few months then we really are into WW3 on an economic front...


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Cuckoo for cocoa puffs, cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Needs to be moved to the controversial/alternative section as soon as possible.

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The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.
Vladimir Lenin

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.
Vladimir Lenin

A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
Vladimir Lenin

Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.
Vladimir Lenin

Need I say more?
 

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Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963


1.U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2.U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3.Develop the illusion that total disarmament of the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4.Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5.Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6.Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7.Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8.Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9.Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10.Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11.Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12.Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13.Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14.Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15.Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16.Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17.Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18.Gain control of all student newspapers.
19.Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20.Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, and policymaking positions.
21.Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22.Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23.Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24.Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25.Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26.Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."
27.Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28.Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29.Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30.Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31.Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32.Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33.Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34.Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35.Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36.Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37.Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38.Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand.
39.Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40.Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41.Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42.Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use united force to solve economic, political or social problems.
43.Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44.Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45.Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
 

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To rely upon conviction, devotion, and other excellent spiritual qualities; that is not to be taken seriously in politics.
Vladimir Lenin

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.
Vladimir Lenin

The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.
Vladimir Lenin

The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.
Vladimir Lenin

The goal of socialism is communism.
Vladimir Lenin

It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.
Vladimir Lenin

No amount of political freedom will satisfy the hungry masses.
Vladimir Lenin

And finally:

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
Joseph Stalin

When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.
Joseph Stalin
 

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Have you also noticed that the election of an American president is NOT a national issue? It has become an international issue with people from outside contributing to the campaign funds of certain politicians. Look at the re-election of Bill "The Bubba" Clinton and all the money that the Chinese dumped into his campaign war chest. It does appear at times that certain foreign groups have dabbled with our elections from afar. In the late 1930s didn't the Germans, meaning Hitler, try to influence in the USA and Great Britain? So overseas tampering is nothing new at all. Overseas contributions are nothing new either and I imagine that both parties take money from any source that is willing to contribute but communist Chinese money for the Clintons?

Hippe, glad to see you're alive and well. You are, after all, such an "intelligent" troll.
 

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Herd Sniper,

That is a pretty good theory. I am not sure how organized "the attack" is but generally speaking the rest of the world would love to mess us up.

The stock market went down right before the elections of 2000 and 2004 so....

But I don't think it will all end on 1-21-09. I think Obama is one of the "Them, their" He said he wanted gas to go to $4 to slow consumption. He said he wants to bankrupt coal and double energy costs...to slow consumption. As painful as it would be, he probably thinks the crash of the stockmarket and dollar will make America much more accepting of his "saving ways". Ironically enough, I think he really thinks capitalism is evil and I really thinks he thinks he's doing a righteous work in saving us from our greed and materialism.

SUV's will be outlawed the minute the big 3 take their money from the government. They will never again be able to make a car that BIG BROTHER doesn't approve.....

creepy!!! I think I read a few books about what we are seeing transpire!

"Their" next target is the dollar. It will have to be worth nothing for us to accept the one world money. They are slowly taking over all of our free enterprise...so the only thing left is our dollar.

But I hope it all ends in January.
 

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All I am doing right now is formulating an idea. There are all sorts of indicators out there that we, as a group, should be looking at and thinking about. This link between Asia, China and the Democrats is an "interesting one" to say the least. Nothing firm at this stage BUT I'm waiting to see what happens after Jan. 20th with Obama and this financial crisis.
 

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Thanks Murderface8 and **********, I'm writing a novel and I was wondering where did you look those quoats from Lenin and Stalin? Is there a souce on the web? I'd appreciate and help you can give me.


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Have you also noticed that the election of an American president is NOT a national issue? It has become an international issue with people from outside contributing to the campaign funds of certain politicians.
because the US affects so many other nations what do you really expect.
Reynolds wrap.
 

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The reason I bring this up like this is because of WW2. Wars are caused by different things but one of the main issues is natural resources. One of the issues that started WW2 was a shortage of minerals and oil for Japan. So the financial part basically refers to minerals and oil. The actual physical combat comes later on. So are we on our way to WW3 or not? Has it already begun in some subtle fashion aimed at us out of Asia?
 

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Cuckoo for cocoa puffs, cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Needs to be moved to the controversial/alternative section as soon as possible.

Tom.
I'll bet you were a safety patrol in your elementary school.. And I'll bet you always wrote your friends up for running in the halls..

Oh sorry, I used the term "friends". My mistake.
 

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I tend to agree with the OP in that it will be a 'death of a thousand cuts' scenario.
Or, maybe S*** of a Thousand Fans. Lots of Mumbai like nastiness aimed at collapsing societal structure and values.
 
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