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Officials ordered nine Muslim passengers, including three young children, off an AirTran flight headed to Orlando from Reagan National Airport yesterday afternoon after two other passengers overheard what they thought was a suspicious remark. Members of ...This story comes to us via Homeland Security - National Terror Alert. National Terror Alert is America's trusted source for homeland security news and information.



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no joke, it may inconvenience a few folks, but if it all saves us from another
highjacking, then so be it
yeah. some rube gets paranoid over nothing and creates an international incident. gawd bless amerikah.
 

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you know, I try not to pile on as you already get enough shiite around here, but, that statement is awfully cavalier as regards other people's lives.

you really ought to think about it....
the whole homeland security meme and the creation of hundreds of thousands of federal jobs is a ruse and money pit. Total over reaction.
The CIA should have been doing its job, it didn't even have arabic agents and intelligence in any kind of responsible capacity prior to 9-11. Don;t let Cheney and Bush do your thinking.
 

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the whole homeland security meme and the creation of hundreds of thousands of federal jobs is a ruse and money pit. Total over reaction.
The CIA should have been doing its job, it didn't even have arabic agents and intelligence in any kind of responsible capacity prior to 9-11. Don;t let Cheney and Bush do your thinking.
um....I'm not. real life requires careful consideration of available facts. i'd have all 5 senses on high alert if I was on a plane. wouldn't you? :confused: wouldn't you report suspicious activity?

I mean, that's why I said you were being cavalier with other people's lives. it's real, not a joke, and quite serious. no?
 

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The marshalls and the FBI cleared them for flight, but the airline wouldn't allow them to fly after being cleared. That is what bothers me. U.S. born citizens travelling with their U.S. born kids. If they can be treated that way, so can you.
 

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The marshalls and the FBI cleared them for flight, but the airline wouldn't allow them to fly after being cleared. That is what bothers me. U.S. born citizens travelling with their U.S. born kids. If they can be treated that way, so can you.
no, I can't, and I wouldn't. I know that. not unless there is a sudden up-tick of 45 year old Catholic men with families as suicide bombers.... :)
 

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um....I'm not. real life requires careful consideration of available facts. i'd have all 5 senses on high alert if I was on a plane. wouldn't you? :confused: wouldn't you report suspicious activity?

I mean, that's why I said you were being cavalier with other people's lives. it's real, not a joke, and quite serious. no?
what is the suspicious activity that was reported here?
 

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The marshalls and the FBI cleared them for flight, but the airline wouldn't allow them to fly after being cleared. That is what bothers me. U.S. born citizens travelling with their U.S. born kids. If they can be treated that way, so can you.
If I was a taxi cab driver and I thought some muslim was making treats in these days and time I would hesitate to put them out of my cab. I can't fault the Airlines for doing the same for a bunch of innocent people on a very expensive plane.
 

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no, I can't, and I wouldn't. I know that. not unless there is a sudden up-tick of 45 year old Catholic men with families as suicide bombers.... :)
That is it.
People that smoke usually cough more than people that do not smoke.
People that play "rock-n-roll" guitar are more likely to have used drugs than those who don't.
Distance runners are less likely to get out of breath when walking up stairs.

Socialists are generally against a free market economy.

Folks that wear turbans are more likely to be scrutinized than a white guy in a Led Zeppelin t-shirt.
 

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john I was wondering, if you were on a plane and a highjacking attempt was made,
how would you handle the situation
details- 3 average sized males 145-175 pounds
2 have a small pen knife each
1 has a box cutter with a fresh blade

one is in the cockpit, giving orders to pilot. box cutter

another is in the back row of first class, pen knife
as to watch everyone in front of him, he is standing
and making regular patrols of his area

and the last one is in the front of coach, pen knife
so he can be in earshot of the one in first class,
this one is very nervous, he's already stabbed a female
flight attendant

everyone is commanded to remain silent, you cant coordinate a plan
with other passengers
2 have been cut for breaking silence by their leader

you are in a window seat in coach with easy access to the isle
you have a toothbrush, nailfile kit with clippers, 2 pens, paper
your on a business trip.

so, given that senario what do you do?
 

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no joke, it may inconvenience a few folks, but if it all saves us from another
highjacking, then so be it
That is not however, the basis on which our country was founded. Peoples rights must be respected per the constitution, the bill of rights, and the other principals on which our country was intended to operate. Probable cause is required for a reason (the overheard comment may be determined to be probable cause by a court, I'm not discounting that). The fact is, Benjamin Franklin said it well enough:

"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"

Our country has violated enough of the constitution in the name of "homeland security" and fearmongering. The constitution was not meant to be a guidline...it is the primary law of our country and violating it is paramount to treason.

--Wintermute
 
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