[mousepad1123]

now, i've already decided to use my marlin carbine in .45 acp this upcoming deer season. now, i know that my 30-30 or one of my many other actual rifle rounds would be better for deer, so dont make that suggestion, please. what i do need help with, however, is choosing ammo for the season. could you guys make suggestions about decent ammo that would expand well. also, it CANNOT be +p, as i hear that it is ill advised by the factory. i have winny black talons and Fed hydra-shoks that say +p nowhere on the box or cartrige...am i right by saying that these would be just as good as any other? thanks a lot for your help!

 

[AKpredator]

It's far from ideal but you could do it with 45 ACP Carbine. Your range will be under 100 yards.

You won't need much, if any, expansion for a thin bodied deer. 451 caliber cross section is a good hole. Should handle them with very little meat damage. I use a 300 grain solid from a .376 Steyr and it punches a nice clean hole with very little energy transfer or damage.

45 ACP is only 17,000 psi. +P loads are only about 2000 psi more. It should not be a problem in the Marlin. Hornady 230 FMJ TC is my favorite outdoor projectile in 45 ACP. I've done a bunch of black bears with it. Works well if you do.

 

[sailinghudson25]

I would not go with hollow points or anything designed to expand significantly. .45 cal make a good hole already. You want an exit hole to increase bleeding. Deer will run until every drop is empty. I don't have anythin in 45 acp. However, I would see if you can get something flat nosed or wad cutters. A coarse front profile will increase damage and energy transfer. This is why the .30-30 and .45-70 does pretty good. The same thing is also done with dangerous game rifles rounds too.

I hunt coyote with questionable rounds before using them on deer hunts.

I would develop a good handload rather than looking for something. Maybe buffalo bore makes a 45 acp hunting round.

 

[BScout]

now, i've already decided to use my marlin carbine in .45 acp this upcoming deer season.

You didn't say what State you're hunting in but I see you hail from NY.
Unless you've found a 5-round mag for it (and I've never seen one), you officially can't use a rifle/magazine with a capacity of more than 5 rounds.

 

[Groovy Mike]

now, i've already decided to use my marlin carbine in .45 acp this upcoming deer season. now, i know that my 30-30 or one of my many other actual rifle rounds would be better for deer, ...!

Sooo....if you know it is a poor choice, why would you choose it?
Doesn't the animal deserve more respect than that? And for the record, I am an avid hunter, not a PETA ignoramous.....

 

[forestdavegump]

Find a bullet with a large meplat and reload your own, find something with 230grainer or larger, use a 45lc bullet?

 

[Cannon Fodder]

I would use either standard 230 gr hardball, or a 230 gr XTP. Something that will drive deep. I can tell you from personal experience, the .45ACP has no problems killing deer. I did see something you may want to take note of, though. Someone in my party was "finishing off" a large buck that had been shot with a bow. He shot it in the head with a 230gr FMJ .45. The bullet buried itself into the part of the head where the antlers come out of the skull, and only went in about 2 in. Didn't faze the deer. Had to shoot in again.

 

[mousepad1123]

You didn't say what State you're hunting in but I see you hail from NY.
Unless you've found a 5-round mag for it (and I've never seen one), you officially can't use a rifle/magazine with a capacity of more than 5 rounds.

i actually took care of that problem, and dropped a nail in the spring of the mag. it now takes 3 rds, +1 = 4. im golden. nice catch, though.

 

[mousepad1123]

Sooo....if you know it is a poor choice, why would you choose it?
Doesn't the animal deserve more respect than that? And for the record, I am an avid hunter, not a PETA ignoramous.....

as a challenge to myself. i know i am competent enough to make a killshot at >100 yds. im tired of the same gun year after year, so im taking a chance and making a change.

 

[Austin Milbarge]

Sooo....if you know it is a poor choice, why would you choose it?
Doesn't the animal deserve more respect than that? And for the record, I am an avid hunter, not a PETA ignoramous.....

I agree with the above poster. I would use it in an emergency situation but not go out with it looking for deer for fun.

Of course you do not want to be convinced otherwise so I would suggest FMJ or TMJ ammunition for a proper exit wound. Get ready to possibly track the critter for awhile after taking the shot, meaning be wary around sunset.
I believe the specialty loads are +p, especially many of the BUffalo Bore or higher velocity loads.
Best of luck on a quick and humane kill.

 

[Tank56]

You can get ammo with lead bullets in the .45 ACP, they may work for you as well or better than FMJ's.
As far as the ethics of hunting with the .45 , I've never shot a deer with the .45 ACP, but I have gotten several with .45 caliber lead round balls from a black powder revolver. It's a lot more effective than you have probably been told. The farthest was a 160 lb doe at about 70 yards. I will say that you have to be careful with your shot placement and avoid any marginal shot.

 

[Jida]

Why not these?

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=693974

250gr Hornady Flex Tips. Better trajectory, good expansion while still maintaining weight with the bonded core.

Never seen anyone shoot them out of a carbine, is there a reason why they are not a recommended bullet?

 

[forestdavegump]

Why not these?

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=693974

250gr Hornady Flex Tips. Better trajectory, good expansion while still maintaining weight with the bonded core.

Never seen anyone shoot them out of a carbine, is there a reason why they are not a recommended bullet?

Maybe they don't chamber well in the 45acp? Seems reasonable? They feed in the 450? So why not? Now that you recommended them they are!:thumb: I would like to see some reloads and shoot some first before I give you a solid heads up yes on these. I just dont hunt with my 45acp. In a 45lc they are great!

 

[Jida]

Hah I guess they are now

As long as the OAL is correct there should not be any issues with feeding but you may have to seat it deeper and reduce the powder charge which could be counterproductive.

 

[Baddogg5]

The Rifle and the Round would not be legal in all states.

 

[Groovy Mike]

FMJs would be illegal in NY too.

 

[kryder]

Well I have the Marlin Camp Carbine 45acp I never shot a deer but I did pull off a 100 yrd kill on a chicken killin coyote!!! 230gr fmj. The only modification on this rifle is the choates synthetic folding stock & Wolfe 21# spring. I sure I could take down a deer if I needed to..........

 

[H2H]

I have a Ruger PC 40 Carbine for sale if anyone's interested?

 

[mousepad1123]

FMJs would be illegal in NY too.

no theyre not i checked that already.

 

[Jida]

Out of a pistol or the rifle?

There will be a difference.