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Four Southern states — Texas, South Carolina, Oklahoma and Arkansas — are considering legislation that would allow people to carry handguns openly in a holster.
These generally Second Amendment-friendly states are among the last six holdouts against open carrying of guns. Openly carrying handguns is legal in most states, even those that ban concealed firearms. New York and Florida also bar openly carrying handguns.

The four other states that ban so-called open carry "are extremely gun-friendly. They understand the individual-rights aspect. Yet for whatever reason, the carry laws in these states are restrictive," says John Pierce, a co-founder of, which promotes gun rights.

Most states have strict laws governing concealed weapons. Illinois and Wisconsin ban carrying them entirely, according to the National Rifle Association. Concealing a weapon "was seen in the early days of our nation as something of an unwholesome act. People would bear arms openly," Pierce says.

Says Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which opposes open-carry laws: "We don't want more people carrying guns either openly or concealed because the more guns you have in a situation, the more likely you are to get gun violence."

Grass-roots movements supporting open carry have emerged via Internet and e-mail campaigns, Pierce says. The online Texas petition now has more than 55,000 signatures. raised $25,000 through online donations to pay for advertising in Texas, says co-founder Mike Stollenwerk.

Legislation is getting varying degrees of traction:

• In South Carolina, Republican Rep. Dan Cooper sponsored a bill endorsed by 36 other legislators to allow anyone who legally owns a handgun to carry it openly.

• In Oklahoma, Republican Rep. Mike Ritze is the sole sponsor of a bill filed Feb. 2 that would allow open carry.

• In Arkansas, a legislator is moving forward with a similar bill, Stollenwerk says.

• In Texas, Ian McCarthy, a student who chairs the Texas Open Carry Work Group, started the online petition in late 2007. He says a concealed gun is uncomfortable during hot Texas summers, takes longer to draw in self-defense and won't deter a criminal.

"If a criminal sees you're armed, he's not going to mess with you," McCarthy says.

Texas Republican Rep. Debbie Riddle has asked the state's legislative council to draft an open-carry bill. She wants to see how other gun-rights bills fare, particularly one to allow concealed weapons on college campuses."

Republican state Sen. Jeff Wentworth, who sponsored the college campus bill, opposes open carry. "I think that's harkening too far back to the Wild West," he says.

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sheesh, look at these comments:

Rational Reader wrote: 2h 6m ago
The FBI has been gathering crime statistics for several decades. In the early 90s, scientists started applying statistical techniques to this data to determine what factors or policies decrease crime. The number one factor that decreased crime was the arrest rate. Number two was the conviction rate. Down the list a way was right to carry permits. The more carry permits issued, the lower the crime rate dropped.

The biggest drop in crime due to carry permits occured in inner city neighborhoods. These were the places where the crime rate was the highest and where minorities lived who traditionally had their second amendment rights violated the most.

Gun control laws either had no affect on crime or tended to increase it. Only law abiding people are disarmed by gun control laws. The criminals ignore them and their job becomes much easier when their victems are disarmed.
Grumblejones wrote: 2h 21m ago
Where's Wyatt Earp when you need him to enforce the "no guns in town" laws....???? Funny how Americans even back then understood the basic problems around folks walking around with guns.
montanavet3 wrote: 2h 21m ago
Would that include my B-40 rocket launcher and RPG rounds if they are in plain view ? Hey, come to think of it, IF I carry my 'suitcase nuke' openly, would that be OK, too?
Keb12345 wrote: 2h 34m ago
Allow only those that make money (Bottom Feeding Lawyers) and show up after the crime (Police) to carry guns. Criminals would think twice about their actions.
dumbysguilty wrote: 3h 54m ago
let me guess
bible thumping states?

save the babies but shoot anything else that moves....
thank god about 75% of these people have some sense
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