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I don't know if anyone had any thoughts on this.. moved 2000 miles recently with family and if shtf actually happened i would definitely head home..if it was real bad i have enough supplies to last at a min. of 2 weeks hopefully enough time for things to cool down on the road enough to get out since we live in a rather urban area..equipped with 4x4 suv..all supplies including (my gas cans) i can only travel roughly 1000 miles without stopping for gas..is there anyone else in this type of situation?
 

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I have several small islands in mind in the South Pacific that I could BO to in a REAL situation... if I could get there on time. (too bad I don't own them lol)

The other option is a small cabin about 2 hours from here.
Last time I Bugged Out to the Cabin was directly after the 9/11 attacks.
 

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I think 2000 miles is a lot of distance to cover in a SHTF situation. Of course it depends on what kind of SHTF scenario is playing out as well. I believe the roads will be pretty much jammed and dangerous after the first few days as people panic. The longer you are on the main roads the bigger the target you yourself become. My advice? Stay where you are or have a BOL somewhere within a days drive if possible.
 

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Remember if SHTF expect congested/blocked roads, lots of traffic and lower gas milage due to the extra weight in the car. Parts of the interstate may even be closed. States may close its borders etc. Basically, expect detours when traveling that distance. Fuel is kind of like firewood, when you think you have enough, you actually need 4x as much!
 

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yeah i only plan to leave if the S*** really went bad..otherwise i'd tuff it out here......we moved here for a job recently ..coming from a small rural town in the midwest to coming to the northwest in a urban area.... .. just trying to plan an exit strategy.. yeah i know traveling 2000 miles in a shtf situation is crazy..but everything(family,friends etc..)is back home...
 

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I don't know if anyone had any thoughts on this.. moved 2000 miles recently with family and if shtf actually happened i would definitely head home..if it was real bad i have enough supplies to last at a min. of 2 weeks hopefully enough time for things to cool down on the road enough to get out since we live in a rather urban area..equipped with 4x4 suv..all supplies including (my gas cans) i can only travel roughly 1000 miles without stopping for gas..is there anyone else in this type of situation?
print a google map sat. and keep it in your car.Make sure you can avoid major traffic areas.
 

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I am trying to build a BOL about 4 states away (1500 miles). I drive back a forth with a full load of tools 2-3 times a year. I doubt I would attempt to move to the ranch under full melt down conditions. I am real certain that I could not drive through the major cities and natural choke points on the interstates.

The only possibility I could offer is to own a diesel pickup and a travel trailer with sufficient fuel to make the entire trip, then travel on backroads even if this means a much longer trip.
 

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How in the world would you travel 2000 miles? If you have to travel that far, chances are things have gone really bad and that means there would not be enough gas immediately.

I have several small islands in mind in the South Pacific that I could BO to in a REAL situation... if I could get there on time. (too bad I don't own them lol)

The other option is a small cabin about 2 hours from here.
Last time I Bugged Out to the Cabin was directly after the 9/11 attacks.
You should never occupied any place not own or leased by you legally. Doing so classified you as intruder or raider that people on this board have trained themselves for years to destroy. I can assure you that when things are very bad, I will destroy anyone planning to invade our space illegally.

I am not sure where you're living around the time of September 11, but most people in the country realize that it was not SHTF and bug out would have been a bad idea. People in DC greater metropolitan areas and New York didn't bug out. People in Pennsylvania also didn't bug out. I would classify bugging out during 9/11 an act treason as it was an one strike attack and your country needed you to defend the ground if it would to that.

I was too young to own a gun when 9/11 happened. I did own several knives and they were sharpened and at the ready should my country needed me. Living on campus provided an extra layer of protection from ground attack and my knives would have served me well in CQB because I knew the lay-out of the building and had the master key due to my responsibility as an RA. Any intruder would have had his head chopped off by a large and sharped Ontario bowie.
 

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I am trying to build a BOL about 4 states away (1500 miles). I drive back a forth with a full load of tools 2-3 times a year. I doubt I would attempt to move to the ranch under full melt down conditions. I am real certain that I could not drive through the major cities and natural choke points on the interstates.

The only possibility I could offer is to own a diesel pickup and a travel trailer with sufficient fuel to make the entire trip, then travel on backroads even if this means a much longer trip.
Believe me, there will be many BGs at at various choke points as well as sprinkled along your path. The really bad part is that many of them will be sent by the government under some sadistic order that is against the Constitution. During Katrina, the prepared people had their firearms confiscated. The government knew what most people had if the firearms were purchase through FFL.

The best plan is to bug-in and lay low if the situation doesn't call for total destruction of societal system, which is what happened during Katrina when local authorities were useless and actually took part in the looting. The best and brightest of NO abandoned their post to loot local stores while still wearing uniform and on the clock. If you see this scenario very highly will occur to your area, then you need to bug out way before everyone else. Sometime, I find that public transportation such as train is the best bet if taken far in advance. Just pack food, water, medicine if you're unlucky, and personal defense tools. I believe most train stations have cash and go system with non of the check gate B.S. of airports.
 

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The only possibility I could offer is to own a diesel pickup and a travel trailer with sufficient fuel to make the entire trip, then travel on backroads even if this means a much longer trip.

i have to deal with what i got, which is a cherokee..with gas stores that would get me 1000 miles..having to drive through the mountains and backroads..
 

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i have to deal with what i got, which is a cherokee..with gas stores that would get me 1000 miles..having to drive through the mountains and backroads..
Most gas stations will more likely to have gas than diesel and the Cherokee usually outperforms most 4x4 vehicles on the road today. However, I think gas may be a serious issue if the traffic is bad and mpg drop from 20 to 1 for that Cherokee. Timing is everything but I would never doubt the Cherokee's ability to go places. I took a Cherokee out once and made a path away from 3 feet mud trail by running over at least 30 trees the size of the forearm.

Cherokee has a few drawbacks, one of which is that it doesn't have skid plate and I believe Commander has plastic skid plate. That is the fine example of corporate American destroying American icons. If possible, install a solid skid plate, add a winch and an exterior role cage and you should be able to go just about any where. To bug out any place farther than 400 miles, which is the range of a Cherokee on a full tank, get 5 of the 5 gallon jug from Wally and filled them up before the trip. The trick is to place them inside the cabin so people won't target you for gas. You should never touch these can unless there is no gas around and you know it will be awhile before you find more. Call me crazy but after watching several horror movies, I changed the way I pump gas and that has served me well.
 

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well i'm hoping i don't have to..with a toddler and carrying all the gear between my wife and me...that would be a long hike..if it happens hopefully it's 200 miles or less
 

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I remember when I was a kid on vacation going across country, my dad had a small trailer he had behind the car. It was enclosed and locked, so nobody could get in unless they bashed it open, nor could they see what was in it. It could probably hold 8 tires and rims, stacked 4 on top of 4 laying down. That would allow you to tow along the fuel you would need, and you wouldnt have to store it in the vehicle with you, where it could be a hazard by both fume and fire.
 

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Maybe you should be trying to go early instead of late.

A cargo shelf that slips into the hitch will expand your load cappacity.

I don't envy your situation.

Are you sure that's your best choice?
 

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IMO - If you can safety drive 2000 miles to your BOL than you probably didn't need to BO.
 
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How in the world would you travel 2000 miles? If you have to travel that far, chances are things have gone really bad and that means there would not be enough gas immediately.


You should never occupied any place not own or leased by you legally. Doing so classified you as intruder or raider that people on this board have trained themselves for years to destroy. I can assure you that when things are very bad, I will destroy anyone planning to invade our space illegally.


Technically, in a total collapse, the land is not "owned" anymore, if the government is gone, so no one would be invading your space "illegally".

I am not sure where you're living around the time of September 11, but most people in the country realize that it was not SHTF and bug out would have been a bad idea. People in DC greater metropolitan areas and New York didn't bug out. People in Pennsylvania also didn't bug out. I would classify bugging out during 9/11 an act treason as it was an one strike attack and your country needed you to defend the ground if it would to that.

I was too young to own a gun when 9/11 happened. I did own several knives and they were sharpened and at the ready should my country needed me. Living on campus provided an extra layer of protection from ground attack and my knives would have served me well in CQB because I knew the lay-out of the building and had the master key due to my responsibility as an RA. Any intruder would have had his head chopped off by a large and sharped Ontario bowie.

We aren't allowed anything bigger than a Swiss Army knife on my campus. What state did you live in? If you were old enough for college, you should have been old enough for at least a long gun, which you could not have had on campus anyways.
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