2" 12 ga shotgun shell for HD

JaxRmrJmr said:

Ok. You are probably in Illinois and I am in Florida. BTW, one side of my family is from the Ottawa/Peru area. I don't hold it against them, nor do I get to visit like I used to. Anyhow, I don't shoot trap or skeet. I do have over 30 years of shooting under my belt. They threw three of them out when I was accompanying my son to get his safety cert, and I hit all three. First time I had shot in over two years. I don't get the thrill of paying money to shoot frisbees, although I do enjoy shooting. That is the only time I have shot fake birds. Real birds duck and dive. I grew up shooting dove and quail with my shotgun. I have been peppered from time to time at distances from 20-40 yards. Most of the time it just stings a little. Sometimes it hurts. But I am calling complete BS on your (and others) assumption that bird shot is less effective than pepper spray at a distance of less than 15 feet.

At a distance of 15', you have the choice to be pepper sprayed or shot with 10 loads of 12 ga #8 birdshot? Which do you prefer?

Unless you are STUPID, like Illini warrior, you will prefer the birdshot as it is less than pepper spray, according to most of you geniuses.

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