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I am looking for a 1851 navy colt, I dont want an original, I want a shootable model, I dont know much about guns so I hope you understand what I mean
 

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If you are talking about blackpowder models, go to a Cabellas store. They have them from $170-$399. Don't look at the online prices, go to the store.
 

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thanks for the info, the online prices I found were rediculouse, what about the ones at bass pro, are those good
 

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Try to find some Civil War re-inactors. A lot of times they will have extra equipment to trade or sell and can teach you to properly care for a BP revolver.
 

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Right now there is only a couple of Italian companies that make the reproductions, namely Pietta and Uberti, most places here in the US sells either one or the other or both, the Uberti is said to be of better quality, but the Pietta is a good gun as well, as both seem to have hits and misses with quality these days.

If you are not familiar with firearms, may I ask why you are wanting specifically an 1851 model?

Why I ask is, if you are wanting it for defense or a gun to use if the S hits the fan, in my opinion, and I have three of them, the 1858 model Remington is a better choice for that as you can buy extra cylinders and have them pre loaded and ready to use, and swapping a cylinder in the 1858 is as fast if not faster than using a speed loader on any cartridge revolver.
Just an FYI mind you! :)

If you are wanting one just because "place whatever reason here" then please disregard what I posted above as it wouldn't apply! :thumb:
 

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arI have alway liked the colt navy. I have always wanted one. I could have got one recently but i opted for a m1895 instead. When i get a colt navy, i plan on getting it in the conversion kit that allowrs it ato shoot 45 colt. Thats cool! :thumb:

44 allows 44 my bad still half asleep.
 

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Right now there is only a couple of Italian companies that make the reproductions, namely Pietta and Uberti, most places here in the US sells either one or the other or both, the Uberti is said to be of better quality, but the Pietta is a good gun as well, as both seem to have hits and misses with quality these days.

If you are not familiar with firearms, may I ask why you are wanting specifically an 1851 model?

Why I ask is, if you are wanting it for defense or a gun to use if the S hits the fan, in my opinion, and I have three of them, the 1858 model Remington is a better choice for that as you can buy extra cylinders and have them pre loaded and ready to use, and swapping a cylinder in the 1858 is as fast if not faster than using a speed loader on any cartridge revolver.
Just an FYI mind you! :)

If you are wanting one just because "place whatever reason here" then please disregard what I posted above as it wouldn't apply! :thumb:
Im familear with guns, what I meant when I said I dont know much, is I dont know technical terms,parts ect.. And I really like the style, how its black powder revolver
 

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Ah, I see!

In that case, I would suggest to stay clear of the brass frame models, they may look nice, but quickly get loose because of the softer metal.

Good luck on your search!
 

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If I had gotten one, I would have gone to Cabella's. But I don't own any type of gun. Any I may have owned were sold privately at my garage sale. Still, Cabella's rocks!
 

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Cabela's is pretty much the cheapest you will find, go to the store if you can, I bought a 1861 Old Army for half price, but that was one of the few times I was near a store.

I've bought all the rest of mine online and have had no trouble and the price was better than.other places. I have a bunch of black powder pistols. And yes the colt navy is good, but if you are doing the conversion kit I think you should go Remington for that. Backstrap makes it so much stronger, in fact I thought they only made them for the reminwgton. And yes it is a 45 long colt.
 

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I believe the author of this post is referring to the Richards Masy (or something like that) conversion. I was wondering about that myself...
I swapped for a Ubertti '51 navy in .36 several years ago. Its quite accurate, looks nice, nice wall hanger. I did have some problems with it from the get go, I likely caused the problem by tightening the screws on the side too much. Ordered repair parts through Dixie- a good company to deal with! The parts were much better than what was in the '51. However, the cylinder stop would not fit (although with some work it could be made to fit), and the spring required alot of filing (the brass case of the gun and one tip of the spring) to fit. In fact, all of the parts in the gun were really poorly made- it looked like the laser cutter had a wobble when they were formed. Hours with a file smoothing everything yielded a DRASTICALLY better feeling gun. A little locktite on the threads goes a long way in keeping case screws from backing out during use.
 

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Your better off buying a remington 1858. Its a stronger gun and its more accurate than the colt. Also holds more powder.
 

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I've got a pietta 1851 that I picked up at a local gun shop for about $200. It's chambered in .44, and Is amazingly accurate, but you might notice that in my avatar picture, I'm holding an 1858, chosen for it's quicker cylinder change capability (although MY 1851 is more accurate) Both are fun to shoot, though .. and I've never met a gun I didn't want :p
 

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Got this one NIB delivered to my door for $120 even. Got it off of Gunbroker a short while back. Brass frame Pietta in .44. Shoots straighter than I can hold it though a little high at approx 45 feet. Put five full cylinders worth of lead into my shooting stump in the back yard the day after I got it. It's swabbed with oil in that pic and is hanging on my bedroom wall as we speak. Cabelas has them on sale, too, but they don't come with sweet holsters like that ;)

Pietta finishes, these days, are as close to perfect as you can get. The walnut grips are perfect, the blue is deep and rich, perfectly done, the color case hardening on the loading ram and hammer and trigger are as good as any gun I've ever seen. The brass is perfectly fitted, polished etc. That pic is freshly swabbed with 3 in One oil prior to hanging it up. It'll need a good wiping down to show it off.

Going to edit out all the rest. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and passing on only a few tips without the reasons why, someone would probably get hurt through sheer stupidity.

Stay safe!

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I need to take some pics someday. But as a huge bp pistol fan I shoot and own quite a collection.

Here's what I've discovered of the replicas. They are as good as the originals.

The 1851 colt is fun and accurate.

The 1858 new army is the best for the conversions, in fact like I said before, I thought they only come for the 1858. Also the bison model after a few adjustments will hit in the black at 50 yards consistently. It really only holds a few more grains than the navy, I'll come back to that.

The 1861 old army is alot like the colt but fancier.

Also have a cattlemen's in bp. Love it for playing QuickDraw And a lemat I still need to shoot.

Now the main reason for this post. If you want a bp with power, spend the extra money for a walker. It was the most powerful handgun before the introduction of the magnums. I have a Remington flask that dispenses 26 grains by volume. I use it for everything. Colt and remington. But for my walker I double fill it, so I'm shooting 52 grains out of it. It will definitely take something down, it's a little on the big side but I'm a really big guy with xxl hands, it's a perfect fit for me.

Yes they are on the high end but sometimes you can buy a cheap one from people who bought them right after 9/11. In Ca after 9/11 a lot of walkers were sold due to a self defense handgun with no waiting period, but some people didn't take to them after shooting them a couple times.

They also didn't clean them all that well.

I picked one up a couple of years ago for 75 dollars and after 2 good cleanings and some wd40 in the process to remove the surface rust, I now have a matching pair of walker's for cowboy action shooting and western re-enactments.
 
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