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#101 ·
Bellyman said:
It's easy to assume stuff or to be totally clueless as to what could be going on in someone else's life. If the kid surfaces alive, I would hope someone would be able to go deep enough to make sure the kid is safe before throwing him back into his parents' home and the same situations he ran away from.
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I can just about guarantee that will be done. He will be asked about it numerous times by EMS, healthcare, and law enforcement. All of the above are mandatory reporters as well, so if he so much as hints at abuse, it'll be followed up on.
 
#102 · (Edited)
We've got 20 something year olds that want to live with mommy and daddy forever and everyone thinks that's a bad thing and we've got at least one 13 year old that wants to live on his own and everyone thinks... that's a bad thing. Hmmm....

In all seriousness, he's a kid. He ran away from home. They have to try to find him.

It is up to him though to outwit them and not get caught. Game on.

As I don't know him or his family I really want to cheer him on, but if it were my kid I'd be really concerned and be begging them to find him.
 
#105 ·
HipposFart said:
Apparently, he has already become old news.
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If there's nothing new to report on a story, it quickly becomes old news. They've stopped actively trying to find him, and he hasn't reappeared. Nothing new to report.

If he shows up at some point, there may be some followup news stories. If he doesn't, probably not other than locally saying it's X weeks/months and he hasn't been seen.

People these days have short attention spans, and the infotainment that passes as news therefore has an even shorter one because they need to keep those eyeballs watching.
 
#108 ·
CONELRAD said:
That'll be enough bashing of responders/members of Law Enforcement.

The comments regarding him not being a danger to himself are others were clearly made in the context of his having stolen a firearm. Not that his poor decisions couldn't lead to his injury or death.

The insinuation that authorities aren't legally and duty-bound to make a reasonable effort to search for this kid is poppycock. That's as dumb as suggesting fire/ems isn't forced to respond to emergencies or that soldiers aren't forced to follow lawful orders.

Maybe it's different in other states, but in Wisconsin, minors cannot refuse medical assistance/transport and are not permitted to "run away" from their parents. They are not considered consenting adults and cannot make their own legal decisions.
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That's true in most states, but it just shows how poorly setting arbitrary ages for such things shows laziness at best from lawmakers and incompetence at worst. There were and are legitimate reasons for rights of passage that were independent of chronological age. I left home at 15 years old and only came back twice before 18, both times for less than 6 months. I wish I had thought about going into the wilderness, but that's the past. Anyway, authorities must do what they must, regardless of whether or not it's misguided.
 
#109 · (Edited)
mr.scott091791 said:
That's true in most states, but it just shows how poorly setting arbitrary ages for such things shows laziness at best from lawmakers and incompetence at worst.
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I believe most states have an emancipated minor provision. In my state, if you are fourteen or over and are married or in the military, you are considered an emancipated minor. If you are fourteen or over and making your own legal income, managing your own finances, and no longer receiving housing or financial support from your parents, you can be declared an emancipated minor. An emancipated minor becomes an adult of the age of majority for most legal purposes such as signing contracts, although legal drinking age in your state, voting age, etc. will still apply.*

Since conditions for emancipation do not apply in this kid's case and wouldn't anywhere since he is still only 13, he is legally the same child he is by age. He is his parents' legal responsibility and therefore must and will be returned home unless he can give social services some reason why they are unfit parents and he should be removed from that home. If removed, he will still have to have a legal guardian of some kind until he either comes of age or meets criteria to petition to become an emancipated minor.

ETA: It appears Wisconsin only recognizes a person as an emancipated minor if they get married (parental consent required between the ages of 16 and 18) or join the military (parental consent required if under 17, and a high-school diploma is also required by the military). Other than that you can't "divorce" your parents or they you until age 18. You can, of course, be removed from the care of unfit parents/a dangerous home and placed under other guardianship. The only way to have control of his own affairs before he's 18, though, is to either marry or join the military, which I would say is jumping from the frying pan into the fire (and he'd still have to wait at least 3 years to do either). :)

* And yes, it is totally illogical that someone can legally kill or die for his country before he can legally buy a beer or vote on the people deciding to put him in harm's way or not. The law, as usual, is an ass.
 
#110 ·
715newsroom.com

Family Organizes Search ⋆ 715Newsroom.com

The family of a 13-year-old Sauk County boy who’s been missing for nearly two weeks is organizing a search this morning. James Yablonski’s father said in a Facebook post that anyone who wants to help should meet at Badger Ammunition in Baraboo today at 10 a.m. The teen has been missing since...
715newsroom.com 715newsroom.com
Since the authorities are standing down, the father is organizing his own search party.
Info at the above link if anyone is interested in helping.
 
#113 ·
emmajones said:
It's kind of worrying that he's been gone so long. He might be fine but he might be in a lot of trouble at this point. I pray he'll be okay.
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Or he might have been in a lot of trouble before he left?? Hard to know. Would be interesting to be able to hear his side of the story in a way that wouldn't threaten the kid. He kinda has himself in a situation that's not necessarily easy to get out of. If he stays out there, it might get pretty hard to keep well nourished, warm, clothed, stuff like that. And if he turns himself in and it's not a good situation at home, he's looking at hell as option B. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. And I definitely hope he doesn't hook up with the local meth heads and get messed up that way.
 
#114 ·
Bellyman said:
"Authorities are standing down." Interesting. Almost sounds like they know something they're not talking about. I still think there is more to the story than what's being told.

Coming up on 2 weeks. If the kid is still OK, he's accomplished something lots of people have never.
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I think they are scaling back,not stopping.It mentioned that the boy didn't want to be found,and they were trying to avoid pushing him even deeper.Kinda like deer hunting,and it runs off,you don't want to push it,kinda sit back and wait,but don't give up.
Thats the public message.

I also think at 1 point,money has to be considered.They had a Blackhawk and fixed wing,tracking dogs,and hundreds of people.Food,lodging,fuel,overtime,After 2 weeks,that could easily be 1 million$.
There can always be Paul Harvey"and now the rest of the story"..or it could just be what they said.

I'm still skeptical about the 4 kids/40 days in the amazon.Not that they may not of had the skills,but it was a plane crash that killed 3 adults instantly,yet kids had no trauma..broken bones,sprains,cuts,concussions...think about it..100% of adults killed instantly...100% of the kids with no reported trauma at all.
 
#115 ·
The boy left home with a much bigger supply than most people know. This wasn't a spur of the moment thing but planned out, and it may not have been planned out by the 14 year old. I smell a bit of Balloon Boy scenerio playing out. Survivalism is the new "in" thing with many reality TV shows turning in that direction. Who knows. But the more I hear, the more I wonder about Daddy-Os survival book. The first thing I thought was how much of a survivalist was daddy. Now I wonder how much if a reality TV show or TicToc fan is daddy.
 
#116 ·
cook said:
I'm still skeptical about the 4 kids/40 days in the amazon.Not that they may not of had the skills,but it was a plane crash that killed 3 adults instantly,yet kids had no trauma..broken bones,sprains,cuts,concussions...think about it..100% of adults killed instantly...100% of the kids with no reported trauma at all.
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Their mother was not killed instantly, although she was badly injured. She told them to leave her after 4 days, and she was dead when the wreck was found.

And there were no reports about what lesser injuries the kids might have suffered. By the time they were found, it was probably difficult to tell what might have happened in the crash and what was from the wear and tear accumulated in the jungle. They were reportedly not in very good shape when found, although they all were still alive.

I would assume the children were in the back of the plane when it crashed, and that part of the plane appeared intact, although the front/cockpit was completely destroyed.
 
#118 ·
NY Min said:
Their mother was not killed instantly, although she was badly injured. She told them to leave her after 4 days, and she was dead when the wreck was found.

And there were no reports about what lesser injuries the kids might have suffered.
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I guess the only way they know that is from the kids,unless she wrote down a diary..hard to know what to believe.
I think the kids were found 2 miles away,40 days later..with the usual scratches,bites,dehydration,exposure.

The mom may have lived 4 days,yet still died from injuries.
kids were able to travel many miles,so no major injuries.
Just dosen't make sense.
 
#119 · (Edited)
Death, injury, and survival in plane crashes often doesn't seem to make sense. There have been commercial crashes that killed almost everyone on board from which one or two others walked away with no more than a minor scratch.

If you want an even more amazing story of survival of an Amazonian plane crash, try this one:

How teenager Juliane Koepcke survived a plane crash and solo 11-day trek out of the Amazon

"Born to German parents in 1954, Juliane was raised in the Peruvian jungle from which she now had to escape.
Her father, Hans-Wilhelm Koepcke, was a renowned zoologist and her mother, Maria Koepcke, was a scientist who studied tropical birds.
Together, they set up a biological research station called Panguana so they could immerse themselves in the lush rainforest's ecosystem.
Juliane became a self-described "jungle child" as she grew up on the station.
"I learned a lot about life in the rainforest, that it wasn't too dangerous," she told the BBC in 2012.
"It's not the green hell that the world always thinks."

So there's your answer. Be in the right seat, you survive the crash. Know the environment, you can survive the aftermath as well.
 
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