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It looks like the Saudi's murdered a reporter that was critical of their crown prince in their own embassy.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/saudi-r...gi-report-says

Talk about a brazen act. They have to know Turkey's agents film and log everyone going in and out of the embassy. The guy went in and never came out. Much less the security cameras inside were not working that day. Or the fact that they had all the Turkish start stay home that day at the ambassador's resident. This one is going to cause a stink.
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Uncut heathens killing each other ( go figure)
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You should see what they do to gay people, or Christians.

It is perfectly acceptable to rape a Christian woman, or kill her husband, for 'apostasy".

Not to mention what they do to their little girls.

They are wealthy, but very corrupt.
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It isn't the act itself it is the lack of care who finds out. I can imagine a cia agent face palming. We killed 7 people last week and no one knew. To kill someone in your embassy is going to make waves
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Conservative utopia.
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If this reporter was a wahabiast or a wahabiast supporter it is really none of my concern Muslims Killing Muslims is always a win , win in my book.
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Just wondering why the Turkish govt. is concerned all the sudden about a possible assassination when they do these things pretty regular. I have a niggling feeling that they are trying to put a wedge between the US and SA. They are no Saints and do some pretty underhanded things, but they are the one of the few Arab friends we have.
The whole weapons deal is a real concern for me - I would hate for us to lose those jobs that would go away if we sanctioned them prematurely.

This whole thing stinks and I'm not sure what to make of it.
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Seriously why should we care?

Do we not have enough to worry about here?

Do we want to have the Saudis buy their weapons from the Russians or the Chineses instead of us?

Why should we care?
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Fox asked Trump about it this morning point blank. Going to be interesting....
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Seriously why should we care?

Do we not have enough to worry about here?

Do we want to have the Saudis buy their weapons from the Russians or the Chineses instead of us?

Why should we care?
Agreed, let the two involved nations figure it out.
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Saudi Arabia murdered thousands of our own citizens on 9/11 and we responded by attacking everybody BUT them. What is or government going to do in response to this: Bomb Iraq again?
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Sand ******s have been killing each other for thousands of years. What's one more?
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Conservative utopia.
No a leftist utopia.

All authoritarianism is on the big government left. The Right is small government and to the extreme right anarchy which is no government. The further you go right the less government you have, and it's not enough government to inflict a tyranny.
The further you go left the more powerful state and it centralises into one hand usually.

Absolute monarchy = Leftist
Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Franco = Leftist
Isis theocratic dictatorship = Leftist

All tyranny comes from the leftist statists.

What the far Right really looks like.



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I think the political backlash from this action is just simmering. We might be forced to take some kinda of sanction because of it. The 12 billion dollar weapons deal for example is why we should care. All because they took a such bold killing. They couldn't just do a assassinate him in a way that left them some kinda of plausible deniability. The world turns a blind eye quickly to an reporter murder in a mugging or robbery. Not so much a killing done in a foriegn country, in an embassy, where their is some video evidence. Also some source in turkey says there is a video of the murder that was made. I havent seen it reported anywhere else though
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Since 99% of reporters world wide are communist by choice , why should we really care , they are not our countrymen nor our creed , they are Globalist and the enemy of our Republic. I do not care is SA cut him up with a chain saw and ran him thru a wood chipper.

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No a leftist utopia.

All authoritarianism is on the big government left. The Right is small government and to the extreme right anarchy which is no government. The further you go right the less government you have, and it's not enough government to inflict a tyranny.
The further you go left the more powerful state and it centralises into one hand usually.

Absolute monarchy = Leftist
Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Franco = Leftist
Isis theocratic dictatorship = Leftist

All tyranny comes from the leftist statists.

What the far Right really looks like.




If this is a joke it went right over my head.

None of that is right. Authoritarianism is not on the Left-Right Spectrum but a spectrum of its own, Authoritarian-Libertarian. There have been more authoritarian Left governments than Right, and they all have failed, but most Arab states are authoritarian Right including Saudi Arabia. ISIS is also Authoritarian Right.

Absolute Monarchies can go either way, Left or Right. Tsar Nicholas II was a Leftist while King Charles I was Right leaning.

Hitler was also authoritarian Right, not Left.

It really has nothing to do with being a Leftist or a Right winger.
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Hitler was also authoritarian Right, not Left.
Do the words National Socialism seem obscure about their lineage?

Free healthcare, free retirement care, and free disability care under government control were part of the Nazi package.

The Nazis ran a planned economy and planned social welfare system.


While I will agree that statism can happen on either side of the political fence, the Nazis weren't actually fascist like the Italians were. The true fascists never saw a need to rectify inequality between the classes.



Hitler just deluded himself and others that he wasn't running a planned economy bought off by promising the masses some kind of fairness. Hitler and Stalin were stamped from the same mold.

BTW, the Social Democratic quadrant can't exist because you can't create social and economic fairness by fiat without the government coming in with a gun. It's just a delusional utopia that is alien to human behavior.
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Do the words National Socialism seem obscure about their lineage?

Free healthcare, free retirement care, and free disability care under government control were part of the Nazi package.

The Nazis ran a planned economy and planned social welfare system.


While I will agree that statism can happen on either side of the political fence, the Nazis weren't actually fascist like the Italians were. The true fascists never saw a need to rectify inequality between the classes.



Hitler just deluded himself and others that he wasn't running a planned economy bought off by promising the masses some kind of fairness. Hitler and Stalin were stamped from the same mold.
QFT and good comeback for the Revisionist Historians ...
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