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Old 02-16-2013, 03:14 PM
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The wife and I recently inherited a condo in a high rise that we don't want, and we're having to live in it while we clean it up to sell.

Being the always ready to bug out at a moments notice type of guy that I am, and because I remember the movie Towering Inferno, it has me concerned.

It's got me to thinking about buying a couple of base jumping chutes and getting some rudimentary training for fire escape or whatever. We're on the 40th floor, and we have a balcony with a good jump off point. My question is to any base jumpers out there, what is the minimum AGL altitude for a base jump? Is 40 stories enough?




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40 stories = 520-ish feet ???????
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No. Just, no.
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~ 300 feet is practical minimum...with an immediate deployment (hand deployed drogue or static line anchor pull) as you depart the balcony railing. Not enough altitude or time for malfunction procedures or errors. Mere seconds to find your landing zone and approach. You'd have to very good or very lucky.

40 stories? Yeah, you could pull it off...if you know what you are doing. But if you've no serious jumping experience (beyond hop and pops)...you'll likely kill yourself by means of any of several interesting mistakes. Gaining control of a square in windy conditions next to a burning high rise isn't for first timers. Nor is finding the wind and a landing approach in a concrete canyon. Nor is flaring in on top of asphalt, lamp posts, elevated lines, concrete, and parked cars. If you run into a building (like the one you just left), you'll never have time to re-inflate your canopy...and wind up falling to your death.

On the other hand, smoked and scorched is no way to depart life either.

Maybe get something like this instead:

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13610558404934

Fire resistant steel cable, one-time use, controlled descender
User pre-installs permanent anchor point for future contingencies
Lengths from 25m (82 ft) - 200m (656 ft)
Harness and hardware included
Mechanical belay for idiots and few skills required other than getting your ass over the edge (but roasting or suffocation are great motivators)

~$850 ... way less (about 1/10th) of the cost for a parachute, accessories, and training.

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I would consider "flossing" as a option also. Harder for a handful of loose embers to burn through a rope than a chute.
Also a fire creates its own weather pattern often to contend with, depending on the size of it.

Here ya go, "Flossing". Make Osman's spirit your mentor here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYBcXgoo6c

Also learn to climb up as well as down, here he is again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX7p3jfr0mA

RIP Dan, you were a good man.
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We had jumped a few times from 1000' --- way to close ---

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~ 300 feet is practical minimum...with an immediate deployment (hand deployed drogue or static line anchor pull) as you depart the balcony railing.

40 stories? Yeah, you could pull it off...if you know what you are doing. But if you've no serious jumping experience (beyond hop and pops)...you'll likely kill yourself by means of any of several interesting mistakes. Gaining control of a square in windy conditions next to a high rise isn't for first timers. Nor is finding the wind and a landing approach in a concrete canyon. Nor is flaring in on top of asphalt, lamp posts, elevated lines, concrete, and parked cars. If you run into a building (like the one you just left), you'll never have time to re-inflate your canopy...and wind up falling to your death.

On the other hand, smoked and scorched is no way to depart life either.

Maybe get something like this instead:

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13610558404934

Fire resistant steel cable, one-time use, controlled descender
User pre-installs permanent anchor point for future contingencies
Lengths from 25m (82 ft) - 200m (656 ft)
Harness and hardware included
Mechanical belay for idiots and few skills required other than getting your ass over the edge (but roasting or suffocation are great motivators)

~$850

So my thread may be a little crazy, but not too crazy.

One thing I know being an ex electrical lineman, when the fire gets hot enough, your ass is going to move. I've heard of guys jumping off poles to escape fire, and I've been close enough to an electrical fire to feel the heat.

Thanks for the serious tech advice. I know the odds of an amateur base jump from such a low point would be almost like suicide, but it beats the alternative. Like I say, when the fire and smoke get hot enough, you'll gladly leap off the balcony. I would be overjoyed if I had a parachute and at least a slim chance. What I really should do is just get about 500' of rope first maybe. I need to find out exactly how far it is down. Thanks for the lifeline decent thing. That looks great. Don't know why I didn't think of that. We had those when I was climbing poles for a living.







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I would consider "flossing" as a option also. Harder for a handful of loose embers to burn through a rope than a chute.
Also a fire creates its own weather pattern often to contend with, depending on the size of it.

Here ya go, "Flossing". Make Osman's spirit your mentor here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYBcXgoo6c

Also learn to climb up as well as down, here he is again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX7p3jfr0mA

RIP Dan, you were a good man.


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