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My wife and I go walking down our country road for an hour every morning during the weekdays. It's a paved road that turns into a gravel road halfway into the trip. This time on the road, we found this little guy:





It LOOKS like salamander, but those are some HEAVY scales on him. I was thinking baby alligator, but then where the hell did it come from? It's obviously not a snake because it clearly has an appendage attached to it.

So what do you guys think this is? Chupacabra again? Alien?
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You found what looks to be a poor tiger salamander. I could be wrong, but when I was young I used to raise amphibians. I once had a tiger salamander. It doesn't have scales and it is definitely an amphibian. I think you are thinking its raised ribs are scales.
It could also be a type of marbled salamander. Here's a good guide to identify it:
http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?guide=Salamanders

Please be kind to salamanders (all types) if you happen to see them, as they are becoming more and more endangered. Don't pick up a salamander carelessly as some breathe through their skin, and many (including the Plethodons, or slimy salamanders, in the OP's area) can secrete irritating fluids.
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My wife and I go walking down our country road for an hour every morning during the weekdays. It's a paved road that turns into a gravel road halfway into the trip. This time on the road, we found this little guy:





It LOOKS like salamander, but those are some HEAVY scales on him. I was thinking baby alligator, but then where the hell did it come from? It's obviously not a snake because it clearly has an appendage attached to it.

So what do you guys think this is? Chupacabra again? Alien?
I agree with Mr. Firepower. Looks like you found a mashed Tiger salamander. When I get back to my hoter I'll yank my Petersons field guid and see what I can find if you like. If I remember you you re in Arkansas ?
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Yup! You have a very unfortunate tiger salamander (Ambystoma tigrinum). What a shame .
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My wife and I go walking down our country road for an hour every morning during the weekdays. It's a paved road that turns into a gravel road halfway into the trip. This time on the road, we found this little guy:





It LOOKS like salamander, but those are some HEAVY scales on him. I was thinking baby alligator, but then where the hell did it come from? It's obviously not a snake because it clearly has an appendage attached to it.

So what do you guys think this is? Chupacabra again? Alien?
Ok, so I had my pertersons field guid in the truck. Yeah, weird, but as a herp nut you don't run around South East Texas with out one so blah anyway, we have four variations of Tiger salamander, ringed, spotted, barred, and eastern. You can see them all on plate 39 in petersons field guide for reptiles and amphibians of eastern and central north America. Yours looks like the barred. The "scales" are normal though. They mat have been exagerated by what ever trama it suffred that ended its life. Maybe you and the wife interupted somethings dinner.
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The weird thing is, what was the salamander doing with a lighter?
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^^ part of his bug out gear^^ LOL
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If you have any questions on scaly or slimy kritters, post a pic, or ask me a question, I can normally I.D. it. Herpetology is my specialty.
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The weird thing is, what was the salamander doing with a lighter?
Legend has it that salamanders are "fire" elementals. Some cultures believe they were born of fire, or breathed fire..... Welp! here's your proof! He was either copulating with the lighter to make his ""fire-babies" or he was loading up on fuel to toast you and your wife in a tragic, trail-side, ambush!

WHEW! Good thing someone "shock and awed" him before he killed the both of you!
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Legend has it that salamanders are "fire" elementals. Some cultures believe they were born of fire, or breathed fire..... Welp! here's your proof! He was either copulating with the lighter to make his ""fire-babies" or he was loading up on fuel to toast you and your wife in a tragic, trail-side, ambush!

WHEW! Good thing someone "shock and awed" him before he killed the both of you!
In other words, the OP is salamander porn!
And apparently a snuff film!
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Legend has it that salamanders are "fire" elementals. Some cultures believe they were born of fire, or breathed fire..... Welp! here's your proof! He was either copulating with the lighter to make his ""fire-babies" or he was loading up on fuel to toast you and your wife in a tragic, trail-side, ambush!

WHEW! Good thing someone "shock and awed" him before he killed the both of you!
Legends born from the fact that salamanders hide in old wood, and people burn it and freak out when salamanders run out.

I used to keep marbled, tiger, three-lined, red, and slimy salamanders. The slimies were prolific breeders. At one time I had forty. The reds were always the hardest to find...I usually found them in areas of red clay in MS and AL. They made the best "pet."

They only burnt down two houses.
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Hah! Rock on! Thanks, guys!

Never seen one of these before in my life! So cool!

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Hah! Rock on! Thanks, guys!

Never seen one of these before in my life! So cool!

They are very cool. And chances are good that ou can go to your local bait stand and find them. The fact that they are e great fish bait is likely the reason you can find them so fare out of their "naturel" AO's.
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Legends born from the fact that salamanders hide in old wood, and people burn it and freak out when salamanders run out.

I used to keep marbled, tiger, three-lined, red, and slimy salamanders. The slimies were prolific breeders. At one time I had forty. The reds were always the hardest to find...I usually found them in areas of red clay in MS and AL. They made the best "pet."

They only burnt down two houses.
We would get the spotted ones from the grass that grew up along side the shady side of the house. From spring to early fall, if the grass was wet we would find them
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You get a dozen of them -- a little bearnaise sauce -- I'd make lunch --
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I dunno. He's kinda small. Have you tried googling recipes for him?
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You get a dozen of them -- a little bearnaise sauce -- I'd make lunch --
You might want to hold off on that salamander salad, they're poisonous to eat.
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Poor little guy
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My hometown county isn't covered in that brown area (Osage Co OK), it's just outside, but I can assure you we have them there, it was my first guess when I saw the pic.
Cool little guys, I loved playing with them as a kid.
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Poor little guy


agree...yes I know...he should have been more careful....
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