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Old 07-16-2019, 04:00 PM
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Lookie what I found... A photo of Crazy Maxine with the Anti-Fa leader named, "Echo." This gives you an idea of who their really BIG boss looks like and how he is oriented....
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Wait until these freaks find out what powers were granted to Homeland Security by the Patriot Act.
Gitmo is still open for buisiness.
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I find it hard to believe any hillbilly or redneck would be in Anti-fa.


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I find it hard to believe any hillbilly or redneck would be in Anti-fa.


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I'm sure they have their token rednecks
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Well I just donít see a redneck and disgruntled Soyboys agreeing on much


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Well I just donít see a redneck and disgruntled Soyboys agreeing on much


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Stereotypes are dangerous though lol.

If you saw me you'd swear I was a libtard.

I blend in very well here in the bay area.

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Well I just donít see a redneck and disgruntled Soyboys agreeing on much


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That is easy , the so called redneck is either porking them or their girlfriends , maybe both who knows for sure these days. JMHO and S/FI!
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BRING IT, Antifaginas.. Bring It. Suckerpunch / shoot / capitalize on defenseless crowds / bystanders all ya want (..which Isn't 'victory' over anything, btw..), but... Careful what you wish / push for, cuz ya just might Get It.. n Punks..

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The Anti-Fa front line people don't understand that they are nothing more than cannon fodder for the Democrat party.

These Anti-Fa people are not true warriors. They are mentally programmed drones being led to destruction for the good of socialism.
Antifa = Nazi Brown Shirts. The Nazi party (i.e. Democrats) used the Sturmabteilung (aka Brown Shirts) to physically attack political opposition, harass voters, protect the party's rallies and meetings while disrupting opposing rallies and meetings.

I just don't know if the Progressive Democrats would have the power and ability to do a "blood purge" to eliminate these useful pawns after they get them into power. The MSM and DNC are empowering these modern day Brown Shirts and it could spiral out of control if they continue fueling these fires. Make no mistake, the irony is a party labeled "Anti-Fascism" is using fascist tactics that helped a fascist party get into power...and history is repeating itself.

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How would you rate them then at their current level against their cousins from a different era whom you are very familiar with: the Viet Cong?

I fought against the NVA and Viet Cong. These guys are nothing like the communists at all. The Anti-Fa, historically speaking, is closer to the 1930's Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany. They are using the same exact tactics as the Brown Shirts did back in those days. Having defined them as being like the old Brown Shirts, I would urge you to be very, very cautious in confronting them because the old Brown Shirts were ruthless. Utterly ruthless.

Keep this in mind: Within all the Nazi groups there were sections to every single one of them that the average foot soldier knew nothing about at all. I would venture to say that with Anti-Fa that there is an upper elite group that controls the whole group. Anti-Fa will have their command group, an executive action group and the main body of drones or foot soldiers. There may or may not be a communications group. There will, however, be some sort of signaling system in place which will include hand signals, flags, signs and so on. The people giving these signals will be the smaller unit leaders.

On the outskirts of the main body will the Anti-Fa scouts who will not be dressed as the regular drones. These people will be dressed to look like normal people except that they will have something that quickly identifies them as a fellow Anti-Fa person. It might be a certain color cap, shirt, overcoat or armband. The key is that the drones will know to leave certain people alone because of XXXXX.

Your main Anti-Fa leaders will NOT be down in the mix or fight. They will either be behind the area of the conflict in a secure location or completely removed from the area. Most of these Democrat controlled disturbances are led by professionally trained agitators. The Democrat party has a past history for training and educating people to lead and disrupt normal events through riots and civil disobedience.

The executive action group will be a small group of armed "security" or protection people and these are the ones you need to watch for the most. The EAG people will be off to the side or at the rear and working in teams. If they have 10 armed EAG people then 2 will be on each side and the other 6 will be at the rear to cover any retreat.

The way I see most Anti-FA groups forming up will be about 5 to 10 in the leadership group or command element. Five of those will be the real top dogs and 5 will be local or gang leaders of the drones.

Next will the EAG which might have maybe 10 people in their team. These people will kind of practiced their shooting and might be able to defend an area the size of a portable outhouse that get used at fairs and rock concerts. They're also trained to shoot and run away so as soon as you hear a shot, look for a running suspect and that might be the guy with the gun.

Then you'll have your signal people spread out through the gaggle trying to relay messages to wing commanders - if they are organized at all.

Then the drones will be milling around chanting, getting hit in the face, rioting and creating general mayhem. This will be the largest group and they will seem disorganized until somebody steps up and yells something akin to, "Follow me!" What for that guy because he's the one that needs to be hammered real hard. He's the hidden leader inside of the gaggle of anonymous faces.

How would I counter an Anti-Fa strike? Lure them into an ambush and then hit them so hard that they'd scream for their mommies. I'd have a small group of guys keep falling back in front of Anti-Fa and lure them down an alley. Once the main body of Anti-Fa was in the alley, that's when my two main bodies would seal off that alley and go to work. The first group would re-enforce the guys who lured Anti-Fa into the alley. The second group would shut off Anti-Fa's escape from the alley. Then I would have my two groups meet in the middle after stomping anything belonging to Anti-Fa. Simple plans are the best. But if you do that, keep in mind that people can get hurt or worse.

A couple of things that I need to point out to you... #1. I don't urge anybody to get into a fight. I've been a HUGE number of fights and no matter how good you are and how many good people you have somebody on your side gets seriously hurt or even killed. #2. Plan way ahead. Legally you can be held accountable for any injuries, deaths or property damage that happens if you are involved in an incident where such things occur. Anti-Fa (the Democrats) will use the legal system against anybody going up against them like a club to the head. The Democrats have - on staff - a large number of social justice warriors who pretend to be attorneys.

Now, research the tactics and techniques of 1930's Nazi Brown Shirts. Learn about the historic predecessors of the Anti-Fa and read up on the people for whom Anti-Fa has patterned themselves.
Oh yes.... Ye olde classic..... The "collapsing defense". Create the kill sack and then execute!
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Oh yes.... Ye olde classic..... The "collapsing defense". Create the kill sack and then execute!
Classic double envelopment , similar to what happened to the British at Cowpens , SC.
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Many, many warrior groups have used that envelopment tactic because it works so well and is so simple in its planning and execution. The Spartans, the ancient Japanese, Native Americans and the Zulus are just a few who have used it in some fashion or another. In fact, in the movie titled Zulu the tactic is talked about by a Dutch militiaman where "the Zulus draw their enemy in on the horns of the buffalo and then surround them with flanking warriors." Same idea expressed in a slightly difference reference form.
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I always take all threats made seriously, as we all should, but I can't help but laugh at the thought of a sustained Antifa insurgency. These guys are not the masculine bolsheviks of the early 20th century shaped by a life of hard labor under harsh, and often unjust conditions. Most of them are little more than cosplayers who every now and then get a bit of mob mentality courage and jump somebody. There are some legit armed sub-groups of Antifa, and they should be watched, but they're hardly the communist of century gone by.

Anyway, I have no doubt any lone, or small group actors would get made quick work of should they do anything.
This sounds pretty accurate, but I just think that antifa could have a future as something more than they are now. Like maybe as a combined force that's pretty much a white, antifa brain, and a racial minority body (i.e. bulk of personnel).

There's just something apocalyptic about them. Seems like the apocalypse could draw people to religion, BLM, and other things, and to antifa, too.

Also seems like disaffected, former military men are becoming more of a special influence in our society, like they were between WWI and WWII in Germany. Military men like that and antifa is a combination we've been hearing about.

On balance, the detention center shooter doesn't really fit in with antifa, because he's an older guy. I'm sure he may have considered himself an antifa. I just think that since he doesn't fit the type, what he did is perhaps not the best predictor of where antifa will go. He was more like an old hippy with antifa clothing on than he was a typical antifa.
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If antifa were even 10% or 25% 69-y.o. guys, then it would be a lot different. AFAIK, it's nothing like that.

It's more like something just for college kids, and then they get just a little bit older, and they turn into hipsters, and are done with antifa.

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I think a lot of them are getting off on the asymmetrical situation of fighting just with stuff like a pepper spray, or a single firebomb, or flare, etc. Sort of "Ha ha, I'm just a mischievous kid, so you're not legally justified in using a lot of force on me, yet we're still defeating you, because of our numbers and passion." It's the LARPing as Bart Simpson side of it. Think it's sort of what's going through a lot of female antifas' brains. If it were more like being in the IRA or PLO or anything, then they'd be too scared of it to show up and do it.
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This sounds pretty accurate, but I just think that antifa could have a future as something more than they are now. Like maybe as a combined force that's pretty much a white, antifa brain, and a racial minority body (i.e. bulk of personnel).

There's just something apocalyptic about them. Seems like the apocalypse could draw people to religion, BLM, and other things, and to antifa, too.

Also seems like disaffected, former military men are becoming more of a special influence in our society, like they were between WWI and WWII in Germany. Military men like that and antifa is a combination we've been hearing about.

On balance, the detention center shooter doesn't really fit in with antifa, because he's an older guy. I'm sure he may have considered himself an antifa. I just think that since he doesn't fit the type, what he did is perhaps not the best predictor of where antifa will go. He was more like an old hippy with antifa clothing on than he was a typical antifa.
If one thinks about it they really ain't much different in real life than the LIBTARD enemy from the short story sub forum called "The Spartans Last March ", complete with rinos as well. JMHO and S/FI!
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I think a lot of them are getting off on the asymmetrical situation of fighting just with stuff like a pepper spray, or a single firebomb, or flare
Of course, antifa isn't using firebombs or flares on people yet, but on locked-up stores and vehicles without anyone in them.

You've all seen the videos of them, probably, and know already what's much more typical gear and attacks for antifa, than guns...
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Keep this in mind... Anti-Fa is just the start of Democrat violence. Wait, watch and learn. Historically speaking, the socialist Democrats in other nations have always resorted to violence when their other efforts like coups, legal maneuvers and so on have failed. Before long American Democrats will start trying to pull off assassinations and armed violent acts of deliberation of some kind to replace people that they don't like who are in elected office. It's just a matter of time for them. Anti-Fa is the first step in their guidebook.
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Also seems like disaffected, former military men are becoming more of a special influence in our society, like they were between WWI and WWII in Germany. Military men like that and antifa is a combination we've been hearing about....
"military men". What is "military men". Fool

You obviously don't know diddly and are full of it. You are obviously never in ANY branch. If you had, you would know any vet would refer to himself by branch of service or as MOS/specialty. You are the uniform you worn or your "job". Airfiace, squid, grunt, jarhead, REMF are as apples, oranges, bananas.

Your BS "military men" is as stupid as lumping "Engineer, climate "scientists" and "womens studies" majors into "students".

You have actual info/data that vets have anything to do with the "antifa" maggots and pansies? I didn't think so. Fool.

AND FYI Nazi/National SOCIALISTS have 2 degrees of separation from the Communists/Socialist progs.
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You have actual info/data that vets have anything to do with the "antifa" maggots and pansies? I didn't think so. Fool.
Antifa states it to be the case. Not in the MSM, but on their chapter/recruiting websites. The John Brown Gun Club in particular makes this claim, or did at its inception. Now, they might be lying, or there might be somewhat more nuanced details, but a few disenchanted veterans can bestow "street cred" on an organization like JBGC. If nothing else, it dispels the notion that all current service members and veterans are pro-Trump, right-wing types.
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You have actual info/data that vets have anything to do with the "antifa" maggots and pansies? I didn't think so. Fool.
I think it is you who are the fool. I have actual info that the local ANTIFA types in the PHX metro area have amongst them some disgruntled former .mil types. Scroll back a little bit. How do I know this? You think I might know one or more people who are involved in watching these people?

You might want to WTF up before making such comments. As much as the usual MSM outlets want the people to believe of a fear in far right wing extremists with military backgrounds, they are completely ignoring the reality of what is happening on the left with ANTIFA and the John Brown types.
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