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I don't see coyotes on the side of the road very often. Maybe once a year, maybe. Yet they are all over. I hear them most every night. Many guys hunt them in the local area. One guy who runs dogs said he cannot run them near the interstate because the coyotes cross the highway and stay in the medium, often causing the dogs to get hit in the chase but not the yotes.

I have never seen a bear on the road and there are a number of them around, too.
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No, but a hair-dyed blonde Cougar almost took my life once......
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We have them in Alabama too. State says they dont exist. The one I saw was looked like a mountain lion. I think its a Florida panther. The males are black. Others around here including my father have seen black ones.

I went from carrying a 22 to a 357 while in the woods after seeing that big cat.

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A US army corps of engineers wildlife biologist said they exist along the forested portions of the Chattahoochee. I was on site when they were doing an EDDA, and I saw the track ( like a big domestic dog), and asked the guy what it was. He referred to them As Florida Panthers. This was on the GA side, just north of a West Point, but they are supposed to be excellent swimmers. He did note it was almost certainly a male- there is no credible record of them breeding in GA.
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I see a lot of discussion in here as to just what a black panther is. OP seems to be distinguishing "black panther" from other large cats like mountain lions.

I have a couple of personal experiences with mountain lions in Texas and New Mexico. None were melanated and all had convention tawny/white/black coloration like you stereotypically see in the pictures of the species.

But nothing with a cat that might be described as a black panther. I have seen and heard many reports of black panthers around Texas. But then I have seen and heard many things, like a Bigfoot-type cryptid at Palmetto State Park outside Gonzalez. All I know is that if you ask Texas Parks and Wildlife, they will tell you there is no such thing as a "black panther" and, even if there is, there aren't any in Texas.
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Jaguars may be what we've seen. According to this article, jaguars are found in the southwestern USA -- and there are melanistic jaguars. Scroll down to see images of black jaguars.

North American jaguar

Given the long snout and tail, the melanistic version of this cat is likely what I saw.
I have heard from people who would know, like game wardens, that jaguars are moving into southern Texas from Mexico. (Along with bears.) They are moving up along the mountains from the interior of Mexico. Have yet to see any, but of course that doesn't mean they're not here.
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Panthers are black leopards and black jaguars. You can often see the spots on them in the zoo, if they have the glass barrier type exibits, or up close to a dead one.
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Panthers are black leopards and black jaguars. You can often see the spots on them in the zoo, if they have the glass barrier type exibits, or up close to a dead one.
Maybe, dunno. I do know that I saw this big black SOB shredding the base of a tree for kindling. Spots? No idea, and wasn't about to get close enough to count them.
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I see a lot of discussion in here as to just what a black panther is. OP seems to be distinguishing "black panther" from other large cats like mountain lions.

I have a couple of personal experiences with mountain lions in Texas and New Mexico. None were melanated and all had convention tawny/white/black coloration like you stereotypically see in the pictures of the species.

But nothing with a cat that might be described as a black panther. I have seen and heard many reports of black panthers around Texas. But then I have seen and heard many things, like a Bigfoot-type cryptid at Palmetto State Park outside Gonzalez. All I know is that if you ask Texas Parks and Wildlife, they will tell you there is no such thing as a "black panther" and, even if there is, there aren't any in Texas.
Game wardens, and state game depts are pretty consistant sceptics. I am not supprised.

If a black panther is a jaguar, that means a federally protected species must be protected in their state.
If it turned out to be a unique species, one that used to range over the entire eastern half of the country, they might be forced to reintroduce it.

So the only people really interested in what a big black cat really is, are folks like me having to protect livestock from them.
Interested until I get a clean shot at it. Then I plan to burry the damn thing because I dont want the federal ESA to kick in either.
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I see a lot of discussion in here as to just what a black panther is. OP seems to be distinguishing "black panther" from other large cats like mountain lions.

I have a couple of personal experiences with mountain lions in Texas and New Mexico. None were melanated and all had convention tawny/white/black coloration like you stereotypically see in the pictures of the species.

But nothing with a cat that might be described as a black panther. I have seen and heard many reports of black panthers around Texas. But then I have seen and heard many things, like a Bigfoot-type cryptid at Palmetto State Park outside Gonzalez. All I know is that if you ask Texas Parks and Wildlife, they will tell you there is no such thing as a "black panther" and, even if there is, there aren't any in Texas.
Game wardens, and state game depts are pretty consistant sceptics. I am not supprised.

If a black panther is a jaguar, that means a federally protected species must be protected in their state.
If it turned out to be a unique species, one that used to range over the entire eastern half of the country, they might be forced to reintroduce it.

So the only people really interested in what a big black cat really is, are folks like me having to protect livestock from them.
Interested until I get a clean shot at it. Then I plan to burry the damn thing because I dont want the federal ESA to kick in either.
We already for sure have Jaguars in parts of Texas. The black ones aren’t a separate species , it’s just like a person with blonde / black hair.
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