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Bitcoin has what I want in a decentralized currency while XRP absolutely does not..

XRP is centralized and premined.. Exactly the opposite of what I want..
Sure the price goes up and down..

Other than BTC I do like some others like XMR and GRIN though..

I am more of your anarchist type crypto guy that won't touch XRP with a 10 foot pole..
I want to take the power away from the banks, not give them more with XRP..
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I hear ya, I just disagree on the future.
Bitcoin has its coins predetermined too.
Satoshi just chose to distribute them over time.
BTC is mining centralized... and unfortunately that is in China.
And the newest mega bitcoin miner is none other than SBI Bank.
Bankers and Chinese will dominate bitcoin mining for the foreseeable future.
And those miners are going to have a never ending battle with the environmental folks.

I hate the banks too, but Libra, Kin and Gram are examples of what happens when you don't work with the establishment.
XRP is not idealistic, but it is going to be a winner.
Ripple hosted the Central Bank Summit. They sit at the adult table with the IMF and the World Bank.
The Ripple BoD is stacked with bankers and politicians.
The price is manipulated just like gold. XRPs future IMHO is preordained.
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I hear ya, I just disagree on the future.
Bitcoin has its coins predetermined too.
Satoshi just chose to distribute them over time.
BTC is mining centralized and unfortunately that is in China.
Bitcoin will not be able to fight off the environmental folks.
I hate the banks, but Libra, Kin and Gram are examples of what happens when you don't work with the establishment.
XRP is not idealistic, but it is going to be one of the winners.
Well I am into crypto more for the idealism than for just trying to make money..
Infact, I use/trade many coins including ripple in my efforts to make more BTC..

I have owned BTC sine before XRP/ripple ever existed.. I owned XRP when it was a 1000sat coin on a $300 Bitcoin..

I've been there man and know I could have made a lot of money/$$/BTC in ripple at times when I have hit it and times when I missed out.. I hit it more in the early days, XRPs first pumps..
But I am against XRP in idealism, and have always been..

The Survivalist in me says that Bitcoin will be the last man standing after a global economy collapse against, any fiat currency such as $ or euros, and against altcoins such as XRP...
Do you disagree?

If the world economy goes to hell Bitcoin is definitely where I want to be..
Possibly even over gold.. Though I have a touch of that too..

I will absolutely admit that I am a "Bitcoin Minimalist" as you say though.. Proudly..

I am a libertarian/ancap maximalist, and a prepper preparing for a catastrophic anarchy in TEOTWAWKI..

We prep for a sudden anarchy event do we not?

Libertarianism/anarchocapitalism would be ideal but a sudden movement from a socialist state to that would be catastrophic, SHTF..

Bitcoin will be the new world's currency standard, as it is the standard currency of all cryptocurrency now, it will be the next petrodollar, and the base all fiat in the future will be compared to..
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Ripple hosted the Central Bank Summit. They sit at the adult table with the IMF and the World Bank.
The Ripple BoD is stacked with bankers and politicians.
The price is manipulated just like gold. XRPs future IMHO is preordained.
I agree, if you think the world is destined continue to be ruled under the corrupt central banks status quo forever , what are you doing on a survivalist board?

Not me.. I ****ing hate them bankers..
They are the cause of so much evil in this world..
I want them stripped of their power and profitability by Bitcoin..

If anything bad ever happens in this world to where we need to depend on ourselves for survival (the topic of this board), the last think we need to do is hand the power of trade back to fiat bankers..

Be your own bank..
Remember that slogan?
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I agree, if you think the world is destined continue to be ruled under the corrupt central banks status quo forever , what are you doing on a survivalist board?

Not me.. I ****ing hate them bankers..
They are the cause of so much evil in this world..
I want them stripped of their power and profitability by Bitcoin..

If anything bad ever happens in this world to where we need to depend on ourselves for survival (the topic of this board), the last think we need to do is hand the power of trade back to fiat bankers..

Be your own bank..
Remember that slogan?
It is called hedging.
As a trader, I do it every day.
Be your own banker doesn't work. P2P truly isn't here yet.
I am on SB as a hedge...what if SHTF does happen?

Conversely:
What if SHTF doesn't happen?
What if bankers do rule for several more generations?
What if XRP does go up 100x?
What if governments/environmentalists/ChiComs shut down miners?

What if the digital economy booms and the world can't tolerate a slow settlement, high-fee, un-scalable coin?
Ouch, I know that one was a low blow
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BTC is not the best for small transactions, true, but it is the best for a long term store of wealth to hedge against the general economy..

The centralized controllers of XRP can just shut the entire blockchain down at any time.. BTC cannot be shut down..

BTC is well distributed, as far as nodes and miners, so they can shut miners in China down all they want and it will be fine.. The US could shut all miners down and it would be fine..
But XRP, one mans decision could shut the entire blockchain down in an instant..

I'm not saying XRP will not go up 100X, but it could also go down 100X, and so could Bitcoin both ways also..

Bitcoin is just much more robust against any attacks from any governments or hackers, much much more secure, and much more likely to survive any situation..

Bitcoin would probably be $100k already if it didn't choke on throughput.. You are right..

I would suggest using BTC as a savings account and something else for a checking account to make many transactions if/when the BTC mempool gets loaded up..
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BTC is not the best for small transactions, true, but it is the best for a long term store of wealth to hedge against the general economy..

The centralized controllers of XRP can just shut the entire blockchain down at any time.. BTC cannot be shut down..

BTC is well distributed, as far as nodes and miners, so they can shut miners in China down all they want and it will be fine.. The US could shut all miners down and it would be fine..
But XRP, one mans decision could shut the entire blockchain down in an instant..

I'm not saying XRP will not go up 100X, but it could also go down 100X, and so could Bitcoin both ways also..

Bitcoin is just much more robust against any attacks from any governments or hackers, much much more secure, and much more likely to survive any situation..

Bitcoin would probably be $100k already if it didn't choke on throughput.. You are right..

I would suggest using BTC as a savings account and something else for a checking account to make many transactions if/when the BTC mempool gets loaded up..

I agree.
It is silly for the communities to argue.
Mostly apples to oranges, with a little overlap.
Different protocols. Different use cases. Different customers.
Catsup and mustard both set peacefully on the same checkered table cloth.
So can we.
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I agree.
It is silly for the communities to argue.
Mostly apples to oranges, with a little overlap.
Different protocols. Different use cases. Different customers.
Catsup and mustard both set peacefully on the same checkered table cloth.
So can we.
Except for the face that one promotes the current banking system while the other negates it, sure, their is a lot of value to be made on crypto if you time things right..

Just don't buy the tops while I'm sellin em..
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I do not understand calculus, bitcoin and my wife. After being married to one, I do not care about trying to understand the other two.
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I do not understand calculus, bitcoin and my wife. After being married to one, I do not care about trying to understand the other two.
Don't think, just buy
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I do not understand calculus, bitcoin and my wife. After being married to one, I do not care about trying to understand the other two.
You finally make a post in this thread that make sense!
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You finally make a post in this thread that make sense!
he really secretly LOVES all 3
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I do not understand calculus, bitcoin and my wife. After being married to one, I do not care about trying to understand the other two.
I bet you could learn differential calculus in an afternoon if you tried. It's really just inside out algebra.
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This is just the thing for you dumb something for nothing suckers.

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This is just the thing for you dumb something for nothing suckers.

100% scam..
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100% scam..
Cryptos are all ponzi scams... only the dumb something for nothing suckers don't know it.
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Cryptos are all ponzi scams... only the dumb something for nothing suckers don't know it.
You seem like a pleasant person.
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Cryptos are all ponzi scams... only the dumb something for nothing suckers don't know it.
you sound like:

the man that was hating on light bulbs because candles were ok

the man that was hating on the automobile because horses worked just fine

the man that was hating on the internet, because the library provided enough knowledge

the man that hated on email, because the post office worked fine

this list can go on and on and on.
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you sound like:

the man that was hating on light bulbs because candles were ok

the man that was hating on the automobile because horses worked just fine

the man that was hating on the internet, because the library provided enough knowledge

the man that hated on email, because the post office worked fine

this list can go on and on and on.
You still sound like you are trying to convince yourself.
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You still sound like you are trying to convince yourself.
always. Wise I am.
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