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Back in my college days we had a friend who was an assistant manager at a Pizza Hut. Back then Pizza Hut had a personal pan pizza as a lunch special, guaranteed ready in 10 minutes or it was free...something like that. The way they made sure they had those pizzas ready was to make a bunch of them ahead of time. When lunch time ended, any of the pizzas not sold were thrown away. Well our friend would collect them together, put them into pizza boxes, and place them in the cooler. Then about an hour before closing time, he would take the pizza boxes out, place them on top of the pizza ovens to warm them up, then bring all that back to the dorms. Sometimes he would bring jugs of tea, whole pizzas that people would call in and order, then never show up for.

We had a little dorm fridge we would put the pizza in, that is if any was left over. Sometimes that was the only thing we had to eat some nights other than maybe popcorn.
There was always someone that came through with cheap food. One guy worked the graveyard at Jack in the Box. The code word at the drive-up was "small coke, no ice". You would drive away with 2 huge bags of food. They counted the cups so no drinks. He would save the food he was supposed to toss after a certain time, put it on the side and it kept warm.
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There was always someone that came through with cheap food. One guy worked the graveyard at Jack in the Box. The code word at the drive-up was "small coke, no ice". You would drive away with 2 huge bags of food. They counted the cups so no drinks. He would save the food he was supposed to toss after a certain time, put it on the side and it kept warm.
Yep. I knew one guy that worked at Mcdonalds. He said that they could only keep the burgers like 20 minutes. So every 20 minutes they would have to throw out what were perfectly good...well for Mcdonalds...burgers. So he would throw some in a bag, stick them somewhere, and bring them home.

Towards the end of my college days I lived in a big old two story house with a bunch of people. At one point three of my roomies worked for Dominos. For every shift they worked, they were allowed to buy one pizza for half price. The best part was they got to make the pizza themselves. They would make us a pizza to order, pile on the meat and goodies, and charge us the half price. So we would get a pizza with the stuff piled on thick for about $4.
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People today need fresh organic food or organic boxed or canned food. They want to drink cumbacho or some other drink that cost 5.00 a pop several times a day. My adult son is recently divorced and lost everything starting over. He constantly bitches about how broke he is but still insists on daily shopping for fresh organics and combacho. I just laugh and tell him, beans and rice son, beans and rice.

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They maybe short on food but I doubt any of them are giving up their expensive phone or tablet to eat.
You can't succeed in college nowadays without a phone or tablet.

Even 40 years ago I had a friend who was having trouble feeding his family while paying tuition and fees. An engineering prof said he had to buy an expensive scientific calculator. Dude said he couldn't afford it. The professor said, "Then I guess you can't afford Georgia Tech."
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People today need fresh organic food or organic boxed or canned food. They want to drink cumbacho or some other drink that cost 5.00 a pop several times a day. My adult son is recently divorced and lost everything starting over. He constantly bitches about how broke he is but still insists on daily shopping for fresh organics and combacho. I just laugh and tell him, beans and rice son, beans and rice.

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Sad thing is, he would get better nutrition from the beans and rice, especially if he added corn tortillas, than he would from combacho. Instead of a steady diet of nutritious foods young people seem to think they need to buy special foods or constantly do 'cleanses' in order to have good nutrition. What a waste of money.
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When I was in college, we didn't have "food insecurity". We had a different word for it;

Hunger.

And it was a powerful motivator to find a part time job.
Think you should have studied over here. No time for a job. No "college", here you are expected to be past college level when you leave grade 12. Then you go to university. Where you will study all day to pass. You eat what you can afford eating, if you find the time to eat.

Also you lived in a box on the highway.
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I was so Prescient in 1970 as to seek and get accepted to the United States Merchant Marine Academy! All my HS classmates viewed me as "Stupid" to put Myself in the control of the Military.

I'll bet that I am the only one of my HS class to retire at 51, in the Top few Percentile for retirement savings. Fifteen Years later, am better off than when I retired. Not bad for a boy who started out one small step above "dirt-floor poor" in Texas.

I ate well in a Federal Military Academy, while earning an Engineering Degree (another of the choices I made that differed from those of my HS acquaintance).

Present day kids can make choices that do not require that they starve. They choose their path. It is on them and them alone if their finances don't feed 'em.

Dear Daughter enlisted in the USAF, and between saving an amazing percentage of her pay over Her Ten Years' Service and the GI Bill, is now (Full-time) pursuing Dual Degrees in STEM programs without working. It can be done in the here and now.
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I don't know about USA schooling, but in Europe most of colleges had subsidized cafeterias where students can eat cheap and nutritious meals. At least I cam eat dinner consist with

- Bowl of soup
- 200 g of potato puree (also to choose rice, macaroni or groats)
- 150 g of salad
- 250-300 g of second dish (various meat or vegetarian dishes like meatballs in tomato sauce, casserole, pierogi or soy strogonov)
- Cup of coffee

for less than ~18 PLN (cheaper than set at McDonalds here, as comparison, minimum wage per hour is about 13 zlotys). Overall food are cheap in Poland and make good dish can't ruin your wallet.
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I don't know about USA schooling, but in Europe most of colleges had subsidized cafeterias where students can eat cheap and nutritious meals. At least I cam eat dinner consist with

- Bowl of soup
- 200 g of potato puree (also to choose rice, macaroni or groats)
- 150 g of salad
- 250-300 g of second dish (various meat or vegetarian dishes like meatballs in tomato sauce, casserole, pierogi or soy strogonov)
- Cup of coffee

for less than ~18 PLN (cheaper than set at McDonalds here, as comparison, minimum wage per hour is about 13 zlotys). Overall food are cheap in Poland and make good dish can't ruin your wallet.
There are...I think on every single campus. At least at public schools. Just most kids prefer to eat elsewhere. Cafeteria food gets old after awhile.
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You can't succeed in college nowadays without a phone or tablet.

Even 40 years ago I had a friend who was having trouble feeding his family while paying tuition and fees. An engineering prof said he had to buy an expensive scientific calculator. Dude said he couldn't afford it. The professor said, "Then I guess you can't afford Georgia Tech."
I'm sure you can't succeed without them.

People who can't afford X,Y or Z do not have an absolute right to college.

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An idea I've picked up lately living on my own for a bit.

Walmart/Walmart Neighborhood grocery in my area now put the "hot deli" items at 1/2 off around 7-8 pm. If I time it right, a whole roasted or fried chicken for $2.49. rip it up and make a week's worth of chicken salad.

+1 on potatoes and macaroni. Filling and can be used as filler for a small amount of meat.
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I'm sure you can't succeed without them.

People who can't afford X,Y or Z do not have an absolute right to college.

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May cannot "afford" college, but manage anyways. There are the people who get a free dorm room in exchange for being on-call 24/7 for every student who has a problem, there is the part time job, etc etc etc.

My family OFTEN goes through college that way. If a person figures it out then they can go.
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May cannot "afford" college, but manage anyways. There are the people who get a free dorm room in exchange for being on-call 24/7 for every student who has a problem, there is the part time job, etc etc etc.

My family OFTEN goes through college that way. If a person figures it out then they can go.
I agree. I got through college scraping by and never once thought I have an absolute right to a college degree. I knew if I wanted it I had to figure it out and sacrifice.

Today the Liberals have mislead kids and given the the idea a college education is a right. Which makes many of them think someone else should make a sacrifice for them.

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google 'food insecurity' and college or university or school and you'll get a ton of hits.

apparently it's a thing now, mostly locals who don't eat in the cafeteria.

any experience / thoughts on this?

IIRC some of my classmates got food stamps living off campus
The private college I attended back in the stone age required first year students to either live in the dorms and have a meal card for the cafeteria or live with family because they didn't want starving college students wandering around town.

After the first year they could live off campus but if they were on campus they were still required to buy a meal card.

The people running the college didn't think it would reflect well on the school if the students were visibly malnourished.

There were a lot of people who would have tried going to college without having a plan to feed themselves if the college hadn't had the policy (which I think I remember originated in the Depression).

It was a religious university so it attracted a lot of kids who'd led a sheltered live in good Christian homes where they hadn't had to budget money or fend for themselves in any meaningful way.

Considering kids today and their level of maturity, I wouldn't doubt there's a lot fo them who don't have any idea where their next meal is coming from.

Of course, there's a heck of a lot more government and private charity organized today than there was back in my student days.

But who am I to talk? I made it all the way through college, landed a job, then lost 45 pounds in less than six months because I couldn't afford food...while living very frugally.
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To me that is what college is about. Learning some life lessons in a controlled environment. Yea most students have to scrape by. I played football so I got to eat at a nice training table. That still didnt stop me from leaning the value of a free meal and ensured I took advantage. The calories I burned per day was enormous so was my intake. I was always hungry. That didnt stomp me from ensuring I had some beer money (natie light and mad dog is better than water), turning in our cans for the 5cent deposit, or making the most of our stipend (you couldnt have a job back then during the school year) and making it stretch. If that means a lot of kraft maccoroni and cheese, Ramin noodles, hamburger helper whatever. You learn to budget, priorities, and that you dont get everything you want in the real world
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An idea I've picked up lately living on my own for a bit.

Walmart/Walmart Neighborhood grocery in my area now put the "hot deli" items at 1/2 off around 7-8 pm. If I time it right, a whole roasted or fried chicken for $2.49. rip it up and make a week's worth of chicken salad.

+1 on potatoes and macaroni. Filling and can be used as filler for a small amount of meat.
They do that here at our Walmart. $5 foot long deli sandwiches for $2.50, bakery items half off. I can get a loaf of french bread for .50 cents. I've bought those roasted chickens for full price, which is $5. Even at that price, it's a good deal. I can eat all I want, then chop up the rest and give it to the cats.
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google 'food insecurity' and college or university or school and you'll get a ton of hits.

apparently it's a thing now, mostly locals who don't eat in the cafeteria.

any experience / thoughts on this?
I'll add my 'roughing it' experience to the list. Lived off campus in minimal housing -- Minnesota summer resort 'cabins' empty during winter season, not insulated). Fuel oil for little pot-belly heater was a priority. Ramen. Macaroni with ketchup from McDonalds packets. The big score was when roommate discovered that McDonalds threw away whatever was under the heat lamps at closing. A good dumpster dive could net nearly a week's worth of burgers. The buns didn't reheat well, but the patties could be re-fried or ground up to add to the Ramen.

But, back to the topic of 'food insecurity', I've seen the term inserted as justification for socialist programs. It's not enough that 'the poor' are hungry, so tax dollars need to be spent to feed them. The poor 'feel insecure' about their future meals, so tax dollars need to be spent so 'the poor' won't even -worry- about their future meals.

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But they all have the money to pay for their cell phones and cell phone plans and are willing to burn up calories marching in protests. Priorities.........
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Its very real for most college kids. I started college at 23 after the Service and two years of warehouse jobs. I could only work part time and carry a full load so I cut out everything but a ratty gym off campus, a 2 liter of Pepsi a day and one meal a day for the first two years. Then I discovered a small soup kitchen just south of campus in the hood who needed a young strong guy for restocking and doing trash for an hour or two a day, payment being a 1 gallon ice cream bucket filled with the meal of the day. I'd fill 2 ziplock baggies for the freezer and gorge on the rest. I also ate fried eggs on a baked potato quite often (and still do). My friends still occasionally mention what a mizer I was back then. Got married and a full time job after graduation from professional school and gained 50 pounds. Our kids learned those lessons from me and are doing better in thier college experiences, including eating! We never have less than a couple months of food in the house. Seven years of school did that.
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I went to a junior college and then a rather high priced school. I lived at home for three years, but seldom ate there because I would leave at 4:30 a.m. heading for work, and return from work or classes about 9:00 p.m. I worked 25 to 40 hours per week, got a B.S. in Physics in 4 years, and the last two years was in a salaried position that didn't clock hours--just said, "Get your job done." Thus, I ate at a lot of fast food places, not for the price but for the "fast" because I just didn't have any time to waste. I came out of college (1972) with $1000 in student loan debts which I paid off in about three months.

I agree that times have changed, but I think expectations have too. It wasn't until after I was out of school and working that I purchased a color TV for my family (their first) and a stereo system for my brothers. (I didn't have a TV period in my apartment for several years after college. Did have a stereo. My big splurge was on a Martin D 35 guitar and that kept me busy when I had free time-- that and some guns when I found them at the right price.) By the time I went back to graduate school (four years later), I had a paid for car, money in the bank, was selling guns because I didn't have a place to keep them all, a ton of tools which my parents stored for me, and an apartment full of mismatched furniture which I had to sell because I was going to live in a dorm. (BTW, I went to the dorm with a Winchester Model 12, a Ruger 10-22, a Ruger 77 in .25-06, a Ruger .22 Mk1, and a Colt Model .357. Nobody asked. Nobody complained. And often was the weekend where my classmates and I would go dove hunting so I know there were lots of guns on campus and it was never an issue.)

Times change, and not always for the better. Seems to me that a person who is in college ought to have enough smarts to be able to prioritize their lives so they don't go hungry (unless they need to lose weight.)
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