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Old 02-26-2020, 12:23 PM
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****hole countries, increased rate of infection on ships, and "just the flu, bro"... somehow it's all connected...

I saw something about asymptomatic spread today, and wondered how it spreads asymptomatically.

Then I suddenly thought of the difference between the Chinese infection rate and the rest of the world's, that is driving us all bonkers, the stuff from a while ago about spread through aerosolized fecal matter / whatever, and someone's point about the high rate of infection on the cruise ships having to do with everyone breathing from the same recycled air system.

So could it be... the real reason this disease is so tough in China and not in many other countries is because of differing sanitary standards in bathrooms???

Also just remembered something someone wrote the other day about toilet paper being disposed of in wastepaper baskets in Korea instead of in toilets, too--- because people there don't trust the plumbing.

It all adds up.

This disease has trouble catching on in America because we're too crispy clean, possibly, and you should orient your preps more towards avoiding public restrooms, spraying Lysol in bathrooms after they're used, requiring people to put toilet lids down before they flush, and requiring that public restrooms and restrooms at home be kept tidy. Rather than being so concerned that someone's going to get you by coughing at you. And the place to wear your mask is in a public restroom, if you absolutely have to go there.

Prediction: We will be spared as bad an outbreak as in China, but some areas of America with worse bathroom standards will be hit harder than others.
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SO you are saying the disease is literally spread by **** hitting the fan?
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The fecal-oral contamination vector has been mentioned by those studying this coronavirus for some time now.

Puts a new spin on the old insult, "Eat **** and die"
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Then I suddenly thought of the difference between the Chinese infection rate and the rest of the world's, that is driving us all bonkers,....

So could it be... the real reason this disease is so tough in China and not in many other countries is because of differing sanitary standards in bathrooms???

Wasn't driving us ALL bonkers.

Between SERIOUSLY crowded living conditions, sanitary conditions, and communist medicine....

Yeah, China gets hit harder than anyone else. India could be hit hard as well.
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was one of the reasons I quit using public restrooms and doubled down on my in house tank drop ins.
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Well, there goes LA, San Fran., and Seattle! Can't say I'll miss them!
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SO you are saying the disease is literally spread by **** hitting the fan?
I'm saying... little Chinese turds ARE the greatest enemy of our civilization, after all..... ?

I think?
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I have to wonder if smoking plays a role. The Chinese have the worlds largest percentage of smokers in their population. Italy is not far off, nor is Iran and other similar locations.

Maybe there is no correlation....
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I have to wonder if smoking plays a role. The Chinese have the worlds largest percentage of smokers in their population. Italy is not far off, nor is Iran and other similar locations.

Maybe there is no correlation....
Just looked at the stats again after reading what you said...

Sounds interesting...

Maybe we're both right, but there's just more than one kind of important and hidden factor that the media and the authorities aren't really catching onto yet.

Yeah, I hope I'm not (and you're not) misascribing something that really just has to do with how long it takes for a virus to get started in faraway places, and not with differences in cultures. Lol, would be funny.

Also just wondering how Korea and other countries at the top of the chart would match the criteria of smokers.

Besides the disparity in coronavirus infection and death stats between China and the rest of the world, there's also a great disparity between Hubei province and the rest of China. I'm also wondering what that's due to.
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Well, there goes LA, San Fran., and Seattle! Can't say I'll miss them!
Forgot Portland, not that I blame you
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This is an engineered bio-weapon. Multiple vectors of transmission, started in the most congested chicom city and spread like wildfire.

Engineered to continue mutating for weeks, it may have grown faster and more sophisticated than the scientists had originally intended. Bio-weapons are designed to give the conquering nation a place to actually inhabit and resources to use immediately.
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Wasn't driving us ALL bonkers.

Between SERIOUSLY crowded living conditions, sanitary conditions, and communist medicine....

Yeah, China gets hit harder than anyone else. India could be hit hard as well.
IMO: India is not as likely as China to get hit hard if the problem is purely the Schiff hitting the Fantail, because in China the problem is people crowded together in confined conditions with minimal ventilation and therefore with easy fecal-cloud spread through ducts, halls and dormitories. In India, open defecation is the major method of solid waste elimination so the ambient breeze blows the cloud on, downwind...
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I'm saying... little Chinese turds ARE the greatest enemy of our civilization, after all..... ?

I think?
Major Burns did say that the war was over the flush toilet....
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So. Maybe bring your own toilet paper and go to a discrete place in the streets **** in a bag, wipe your ass and dump it in a bag wrap it up
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Possible.

Also possible is that smokers touch there face more. Touch there cig. Cig goes into mouth.

Hand has touched everything everyone else has.

Pretty simple.


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Maybe there is no correlation....
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Possible.

Also possible is that smokers touch there face more. Touch there cig. Cig goes into mouth.

Hand has touched everything everyone else has.

Pretty simple.
Over the 2MC.....

There is a primary to secondary leak.... no eating, drinking, smoking, or chewing...... they may have added vaping in the last 30 plus years
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Possible.

Also possible is that smokers touch there face more. Touch there cig. Cig goes into mouth.

Hand has touched everything everyone else has.

Pretty simple.
Hm, good point.
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While we are all trying to put reasons and facts together, we are all blowing smoke. To many unknowns. Fake info or real? This is like a game of wack a mole, look here is fact, no, over there, a better fact.

Health factors realistically factor in. Let's look at US. How many smoke, cigarettes or dope, vape or abuse drugs? How many have diabetes, are obese, or have a compromised immune system? Crowded living conditions, look at any multi-story building with shared elevators, doors, laundry, etc. Think people are clean in the US? Just clean a bathroom used by the public or high school kids. Used products, diapers, tampons, are commonly left out of the trash. I remember going into a change room to try on clothes and finding a dirty diaper. Touching one's face, how often do those with face piercings do that. I am not convinced conditions aren't prime in the US for rapid spread. Not sure we are that much more sanitary....
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While we are all trying to put reasons and facts together, we are all blowing smoke. To many unknowns. Fake info or real? This is like a game of wack a mole, look here is fact, no, over there, a better fact.

Health factors realistically factor in. Let's look at US. How many smoke, cigarettes or dope, vape or abuse drugs? How many have diabetes, are obese, or have a compromised immune system? Crowded living conditions, look at any multi-story building with shared elevators, doors, laundry, etc. Think people are clean in the US? Just clean a bathroom used by the public or high school kids. Used products, diapers, tampons, are commonly left out of the trash. I remember going into a change room to try on clothes and finding a dirty diaper. Touching one's face, how often do those with face piercings do that. I am not convinced conditions aren't prime in the US for rapid spread. Not sure we are that much more sanitary....
Having backpacked and worked in China... the US is light years ahead of China in sanitation and care for fellow human beings. A Florida Walmart restroom is cleaner than most restrooms at top restaurants in Beijing.

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I have to wonder if smoking plays a role. The Chinese have the worlds largest percentage of smokers in their population. Italy is not far off, nor is Iran and other similar locations.

Maybe there is no correlation....
I think advanced age, preexisting conditions and smoking is the key element in what determines severe disease and/or death.

The majority who get it will suffer cold like symptoms and most likely mild enough not to require hospitalization.
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